Legends of the Lasat

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The episode "Legends of the Lasat" aired tonight. What did you all think of it?
 

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Well, having seen the episode now, I think it wasn't the worst one. More Hondo is always neat, and it had some pretty cool moments and some rather wonderful new music. I did have a few issues with it, such as how it impacts Zeb's story, and the use of prophecies is a pretty cheap storytelling tool.
 

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I wasn't a huge fan of this episode. Didn't seem to add much beyond "yay Zeb has a people with a planet" rather than establishing a base, allies, or even moving the story at all. Maybe I am just cynical but I was really hoping for them to be executed by the Empire and for Zeb to fail yet again to save his people.
 

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Yeah, there wasn't even much character growth.
 

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I think there was important character growth. The reason Zeb has always had this sort of gruff exterior is because he's dealing (or rather, NOT dealing) with the guilt and shame over the fall of Lasan. Now that he knows Lirasan is out there, and there are actually tons of Lasat living there, he has an opportunity to change even more as a person. Just like 'The Protector of Concord Dawn' with Sabine, this is the first of character exploration and evolution.

Overall this episode wasn't my favorite but there were a lot of great moments in it. The Hondo stuff was funny, as always. The visuals were stunning. The music was great. They really stepped up their VFX and music game in this one. In fact the show's music in general seems to be getting better and better. They're starting to do more original scores rather than relying on existing OT motifs.

I didn't mind the prophecy part that much mainly because it wasn't really a prophecy. It wasn't 'this person is destined to do this thing,' nor was it 'Zeb has a great destiny' or anything like that. It was a story about Lirasan and how it exists. The idea of the child, the warrior, and the fool is just a metaphor for who everyone is. Zeb's relationship to that wasn't that he was some prophetic figure, it was that, like everyone, he has to accept all sides of himself - which means accepting what happened on Lasan and dealing with that guilt. But anyone can be all three of those things, just like how Chava said that Agent Kallus was a warrior too.

Any Lasat who had a bo-rifle could do what Zeb did in finding Lirasan, as long as they had faith in the Ashla - which, given that the Ashla is the Force, is the entire point of Star Wars.
 

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I personally hated the entire episode. Conveniently bumping into two of his kind that can answer all the questions. Seeing as there are seemingly very few of these guys around (from what understood) to bump into two, that not only recognise you but know your personally. THEN to conveniently discover his weapon shields a ship from the destructive forces of space, and pilots a ship.

For me it was shocking, I'd actually hoped that more of his kind would have shown up and destroyed that empire ship in revenge. I'm hoping that the following episodes are better as opposed to forced character building where a crew so determined to help the rebellion would randomly travel to dangerous parts of space risking everything on the hunch of a old lady who their own friend didn't belive at first.
 

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Star Wars, as a franchise, is built on convenience. Plus any run-in with people from a very small group is always going to look somewhat convenient. But that's how storytelling works. Plus he didn't just happen to bump into them. Hondo specifically contacted the rebels about them.

I also don't think they knew him personally. Gron served under him, and Chava was just aware of him. Which is not unreasonable considering we find out he was captain of the Honor Guard.

I also don't think he conveniently discovered his weapon could do that. He knew how the ancients used bo-rifles. Lasats just didn't need to do that anymore. Especially when you consider, as Hera said, most people don't go into Wild Space, so that situation was rare in and of itself.
 

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I personally love this episode. Maybe one of my favorites. Zeb isn't my favorite character, but the whole idea of his culture's origin, and almost destruction, is very cool. Also I loved the effects of the bo-rifle on the ship and them going into whatever type of hyperspace to get to Lira San. And the whole idea that the Force is called multiple things is also really cool. I never actually thought about that. This is probably one of my favorite.
 

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While the episode was good, I was a little disappointed they didn't show Zeb land on the planet. And, personally, I liked it more than the last episode.
 

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In an already-effects heavy episode, showing the surface of Lirasan would've been super expensive. So I can understand why we didn't see it.
 

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In an already-effects heavy episode, showing the surface of Lirasan would've been super expensive. So I can understand why we didn't see it.
Yeah, but it would've been neat. Ah well. Maybe they'll visit another time given the connection of the Lasat to the Force.
 

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I rather liked the episode, quite frankly. Although giving that it lays out that his people believe in the force, albeit through another name, alongside with his prophetic use of his bo-rifle, it indicated Zeb has an affinity to the force, on at least some level.
The force worked through him to guide him through that star cluster, or so it seems (granted it could be his rifle that shielded the craft from gravity through some ancient technology). Generally the force only works through highly sensitive people with such grandeur. Does this mean Zeb could possibly become a Jedi, or at least learn the force in a way more in line with the Lasat teachings?
 

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The Force works through everyone. It binds the entire galaxy together. The Force even works through people like Han Solo. But that doesn't necessarily mean they can become Jedi, or wield the Force in any sort of prominent way.
 

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It was okay, I liked Hondo, the rest was passable.

When they reached the Maze however, my first thought was that somehow it was related to Father, Daughter and Son. Just the layout of the area and how they fell out of hyperspace. To me that would have been a far more interesting twist and could have jerked the episode somewhere else. Its not bad but I would say it seems the weakest episode of season 2 so far.
 

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All else aside from the episode, the music was reaaally good. I've always like that sort of 'space mysticism' style that's been around forever, and the fact that they used it for this episode fit really well with the premise of the episode.

I mean, the rest of the episode I was mostly bored, in all honesty, but the music saved it.
 
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