Planet, Species, and Tech Boards

[Amilthi]

I think the "sublight speed" part of starship profiles is meant to be atmospheric speed. Sublight speed limits don't make sense. Manoeuverability and acceleration, yes, but not speed limits. I, for one, wouldn't know how to reason with any numbers there and I'd just read the relations between numbers as "can accelerate and decelerate faster than".

 

[Empress]

I think the "sublight speed" part of starship profiles is meant to be atmospheric speed. Sublight speed limits don't make sense. Manoeuverability and acceleration, yes, but not speed limits. I, for one, wouldn't know how to reason with any numbers there and I'd just read the relations between numbers as "can accelerate and decelerate faster than".

both are different, an example would like an X-wing does 100 MGLT, but 1,050 KMPH in atmosphere. an Awing I believe did something like 145 or 150 MGLT,

Edit: found this: http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Megalight

Also has a ILM sketched chart XD

 

[Amilthi]

I wonder if it helps to tell my brain that some kind of ether theory is actually true in the Star Wars universe. :D

 

[Empress]

hehe it would work, I would say an easy way to approach that is to use the ILM example as sort of a template- you have A-wings the fastest starfighter of that era as an idea for " fast" and go down the list. sort of " give a rough guess in what your ship would be most similar too"

thats more or less how I think it could be done without trying to number crunch.

 

[Cassanova]

I'm just gonna go right on out there and suggest something to Xeno and the admin team.

With 9 planets posted in 3 days, i have a HUGE question to ask everyone.
Why aren't the planets in SW Canon good enough? There's not a bloody shortage of them.

I don't know who else shares my concern here, but I've got a gut feeling that a lot of these tech/species/planet approvals are because people are too lazy to spend an hour on Wookieepedia, or simply want a planet in a certain location for 'tactical' reasons. Some, like Tweedy's Sacrul, and Adena's Delmagh, obviously are home to a species and new environment entirely. I may be crazy, but i'm seeing a lot of planets on the list, and expect to see more, that simply appear to be there 'just because'.

While tech has the same issues, but is less affecting to the community as a whole, I fear a lot of it will be overlapping. People making tech that exists in canon, or stuff exactly like other applications that have already been made. I think people will be personalising tech for nearly every character, and stuff. Now, I'm happy to raise my hand up and say Yes, i've got two custom armours and one custom ship, but i'm also happy to throw them in the trash, and would be overjoyed if other people used them too. My fears still remain.

I know Xeno is all over this board and doing a great job, and this post isn't meant to reflect poorly on his work now, or in the future, however I still sit here nervously as I see that every one of these fan-made additions to the Star Wars universe takes us just that little bit further away from what Star Wars is supposed to be. I mean, isn't that why we're all here? Because we love the movies, books comics, and games?

I'm not saying any of this to stir a response, and certainly not demand an explanation, but hopefully this will serve as a gentle reminder to the people of SWRP that this is Star Wars, and while yes, certain additions need to be made, we need to keep it as Star Wars as we can, otherwise we may as well change the name to SFRP, Science Fiction Roleplay.

For those of you who took the time to read this post, Thanks. For those of you didn't, nernenynernypoopyzinglewhat!

Cheers,

- Cassa

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I understand your concerns, but one thing we won’t be doing is making decisions about this board based on “OMG” fears. This is something new, one meant mostly to have a more effective workflow (people were sending these sorts of things to us anyway, and we had to do it in the admin board—and write ups were often forgotten about while we worked on, honestly, more crucial tasks), and we don’t know what the results will be. So far, I think it’s going to be very positive. We'll see, and we'll continue to evaluate it was we move forward.

 

[Toska]

If people are going to submit at they rate they have so far, it'd probably be best to have an "approved" sub-forum for each.

 

[Dmitri]

Case in point: Corbenic, sent months ago. In all honestly, I don't mind. The admins do have more important things to do, so it's understandable littler things were forgotten.

@Lark: Maybe not even an approved subboard, but a stickied thread that lists all the approved stuff.

 

[Blaxican]

I don't see the issue, from an objective standpoint, with their being tons new planets. It's a big Galaxy. Realistically, there should be thousands, if not millions, of planets that are never mentioned in the canon. I mean hell, the authors do it anyway. In almost every new SW novel, a new planet is introduced. That's just how it works.

On a personal level, I'd rather see a hundred custom planets from a hundred different people, than see 20 people from Corellia, 20 from Tatooine, 30 from Coruscant, etc. The Galaxy is so huge that statistically that should barely even be possible. lol

 

[Cassanova]

At what point does it stop being Star Wars, though?
When does it become some messy Sci Fi RP that bears a resemblance to Star Wars?

Thats my point.
I'm not against the idea of fan made stuff, in fact I encourage it. Just verbalising concerns, is all.

 

[Empress]

Depends too on the writer, just looking at the danthiri It's tied HEAVILY into SW lore at it's core so goes to show all it really takes is a little effort and one can keep things in universe easily.


then again Im a lore whore who cusses in universe lore, I wont mention " earth based" animals or food or drinks or really anything along those lines if I know a SW alternative if not I will make something up that sounds like it.

 

[Tribunal Power]

I can see Cass' concerns, but I really only have one concern to share.

With people creating a buttload of user-made planets, how does that relate to territorial expansion for the main factions? Are we going to start mapping all of these new planets in a galaxy map or will they be completely ignored when it comes time to draw up new faction borders?

I love the new boards, don't get me wrong. I think it's a fantastic idea. I'm just worried that eventually everyone will be from user-created planets and the ones that are on the SW gal-map won't mean anything anymore. It also would seem kind of silly for there to be as many user-made planets as canon planets, but to still use the canon map for territory charting as if those planets didn't exist.

I feel like user-created planets and, by extension and to a lesser extent, species, should be very heavily regulated-- especially with regards to location. Normally I'm all for letting people do whatever the heck they want, but I could see this being really inconsistent with the mapping efforts that are already under-appreciated on this site.

Just my $.02 USD.

 

[Cassanova]

Should've gone $0.02 AUD. Its worth more ;)

 

[Empress]

Thats a concern I can understand, and I can say that yes it's one that has been taken into account. It is new, there will be bumps here and there- Though I'd say that's why we've been around 8 years. We are not afraid to try something new and make changes when we see things come up. That said, and I think Bac mentioned it earlier that it's still early, and were waiting to see how things go, Jhonny is the man doing a ton of work on this, I'd say this was his baby, and I can say confidently that he is watching for shenanigans, like trying to resource stack it, or trying to use it as a way to " buy off territories" and the likes that you mentioned.

 

[Blaxican]

At what point does it stop being Star Wars, though?
When does it become some messy Sci Fi RP that bears a resemblance to Star Wars?

Thats my point.
I'm not against the idea of fan made stuff, in fact I encourage it. Just verbalising concerns, is all.

That would depend on your definition of Star Wars. To be honest, I would say that using iconic planets, races, and concepts repeatedly dilutes a fictional universe far more than creating your own aspects for it. Besides, I don't really see how creating a custom planet is much different from what an EU author does. 99% of the planets listed on Wookie have barely a paragraph of description in them, and usually don't have much prominence within the Universe beyond being mentioned once in passing in a single paragraph of a story, or something.

edit- As far as the map, I would imagine that only planets that play a significant role in the site-wide plots would need to be mentioned; after all, most of the maps depicting the Star Wars universe don't list every planet in the Galaxy, only those where important or iconic events took place in Galactic History.

I foresee the majority of planets that get made being created primarily for some personal plots, or for some fanon species' lore. Ergo, there wouldn't be a need to update the territories for them.

 

[Alexander Dregar]

As for planets, it mentions in star wars there are millions of planets....and does anyone see a listing for even one million planets? I mean its up to us to fill in the blanks in a massive universe. Our own map has massive dark places where there are no worlds and thats now how it works in the star wars universe itself. Its just no one has gotten aroudn to creating them yet, and thats all we are doing!

 

[Cassanova]

Just as a suggestion for Xeno/Johnny - Can we get a 'MISC' prefix put on the tech boards?
Not everything is a weapon :P

 

[Dmitri]

Just as a suggestion for Xeno/Johnny - Can we get a 'MISC' prefix put on the tech boards?
Not everything is a weapon :P

But everything can be used as a weapon. :CSly

 

[Alexander Dregar]

But everything can be used as a weapon. :CSly

Take a datapad, small but can be used to hit people with. Or like Wes Janson proved, when transfering data to another person you can act like its a gun.