Subfaction Change

[Santoro]

Hello,

I've been talking to some people lately and have decided that I'd like to remove the Taung as a subfaction. This isn't to say that the Taung would be booted out of the Empire ICly, but that they can move to an indie faction aligned with the Hutts.

I do this to make room for a new subfaction I'm still working on as an expanded Darksaber Squadron idea. My reasoning is that a Taung character is a very similar type- a supersoldier/warrior with little diversity. A secret military group can open the door for medics, spies, supersoldiers, Bogan, anything really- it would make the subfaction more attractive and allow the Taung to still participate.

Since I changed things up and screwed the Wikia before, I figured I'd post my intentions here so any changes can be done or comments be thrown.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I'd rather you didn't. With an active leader the Taung can work well, plus the Taung aren't just going to leave your Empire. The Hutts promised them that as part of the Hutt Empire, they would be able to help lead troops and participate in battles against the Republic.

Plus, you can have more than one sub-faction.

EDIT: Also, this is something that basically needs to be GM approved, so the admins will have to agree to this in order for you to remove them as a sub-faction.

 

[Lucid]

It'd be best to prune indie factions before removing something like the taung.

 

[Santoro]

If I can have more than one subfaction than that's all fine and dandy. Taung have been sitting there still for months, so long as I can have an active subfaction I'm happy.

So, I can start making the Darksaber subfaction?

 

[Cailst]

If you want to get rid of them, what if the Republic tried to sway them over to their side and we could have some "diplomacy" or whatever you would do with Taung to sway them?

 

[Brandon Rhea]

If you want to get rid of them, what if the Republic tried to sway them over to their side and we could have some "diplomacy" or whatever you would do with Taung to sway them?

I doubt the Hutts would do that.

One of the things with the Taungs was that they always saw the Hutts as really far beneath them. It was the Republic that was their target of interest, which was why the Taungs were brought into the Empire.

In all honesty, there's no IC reason for the Hutts to remove the Taung like this. They're the best warriors in the Empire, and the Hutts need them.

Let's rebuild the Taung faction and you'll be able to utilize them well.

 

[Lucid]

Speaking of subfactions...nobody liked my proposed changes and plans of action for the S13. I thought investigating the Senate would be interesting as S13 really doesn't have what it takes atm to contribute to the War Effort.

Any thoughts on what I can do to breathe life back into them?

 

[Santoro]

I'm not booting the Taung out of the Empire- they can still participate and I hope they do, even though I intended to work with them on the first battle and it was a zero turnout rate.

Instead, I'm proposing that the Taung, as an OOC faction, be removed from the sub faction role and replaced with Darksaber. If that's not an option and since I can apparently have two subfactions I would like to focus on creation of a second one- I personally (and the site as a whole judging by your roll call) have little to no interest in rebuilding the Taung when I can start with a fresh slate on something that's proven to have interest.

The Taung had potential, but as of right now they're so dead there's not much of a point in fanning that flame. There's no viable leader, there's no solid support, and there's no need to waste effort when it's already doomed to fail. If someone wants to take the reigns on the Taung then I'd be glad to hear it, but I've already got a long PC list of people interested in a Darksaber subfaction.

 

[Sreeya]

At this point, it's really useless to try and rebuild the Taung. I personally made the effort and even took up the title of Mandalore. Honestly, no one wants to make one and it's just a dead weight that's not going to come to life. People only want to make Mandalorians, not Taungs, even though they're a pre-cursor.

At the same time, ultimately I think that faction leaders should get final say on what they'd like included within it and whatnot. I'm all for keeping Taung around, but I think Darksaber as a faction has already done a lot and has a lot more potential as the primary subfaction for Hutts as opposed to having multiple ones.

Not only would this keep Taung as a subfaction as a dead weight, but it'd also spread people out too much. Imo, there aren't enough active people to effectively spread out over two sub factions. If people aren't going to make Taung anyway, why not make a single working sub faction that can include everyone?

 

[Jiang Winters]

I would really like to see the Taung continue, but instead of continuing them as the Tuang, make a group of human/near-humans who call themselves Mandalorians and work for the Taung. Create something more recognizable to people; it may spit in the face of Canon, but if it gets the faction back on-track, I think people would be willing to live with that.

/crazy post-final midnight ramble

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I would really like to see the Taung continue, but instead of continuing them as the Tuang, make a group of human/near-humans who call themselves Mandalorians and work for the Taung. Create something more recognizable to people; it may spit in the face of Canon, but if it gets the faction back on-track, I think people would be willing to live with that.

/crazy post-final midnight ramble

I've actually talked to Sreeya about this before. I don't think we should make it a non-Taung organization yet, but I think if we can include "Mandalore" in the title while keeping "Taung" in the title, and we make the faction more visible, it can be more active.

 

[Lavi]

I'm leaning more for the Mando faction being more varied. Making it an absolute that the Mando has to be a Taung stifles creativity since there is not nearly as much information about the Taung than the Mandos that we love/hate.

 

[Jiang Winters]

Considering the Taung have been tragically inactive since their attack on Corellia, I'd have to say that we're at a point where we either have to overhaul the faction and make it more appealing -the addition of traditional Mandalorians would help greatly- or shelve it and admit that it failed. I hate to say it, but a simple name change isn't going to fix the faction; it needs a bit of an overhaul if it's going to work, imho.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

The hang up, though, hasn't been that it's only Taungs. It's that people see the name "The Taungs" and don't really know what it is, hence the name change. I'd like to try something more subtle like that and see what it does before a major change like non-Taung members.

 

[Cailst]

What about the "Taung of Mandalore"? Perhaps like the "Dark Jedi of the Bogan" which has a familiar name coupled with a mostly unfamiliar name.

Also, perhaps we could try and get some drama to occur with the faction? Since Niner said he was coming back and we could try and convince him to battle Sreeya. Perhaps it could be some big duel in the dueling ring and perhaps their characters could be influenced by different factions. Maybe the Bogan wants one side to win and Tusa wants the other side to win, or maybe even Jade could get itself involved. And if we could drum up enough OOC action by arguing a lot in the RP OOC section and mentioning as an announcement in the general OOC section. Hopefully from there, people might actually join the Taung just to back one side or the other and then it could be a more active from there as Taung then go on to attack Republic planets or get involved in Bogan/Hutt conflicts.