Deadpool (Movie)

[Phil]

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/deadpool-cast-talks-about-their-r-rating-124264220312.html

It's coming, it's rated R and Ryan Reynolds is excited. I particularly don't care for the character since I think he is overrated, but I saw the crappy comic con footage of the trailer, found here, and this looks like a really enjoyable film.

 

[Logan]

Deadpool isn't overrated. You're overrated.

I'm excited.

 

[Phil]

No, he is overrated. I don't hate him or anything, I just don't think he's one of the greatest Marvel characters just because he makes jokes and breaks the fourth wall and kills people.

Film still looks a lot better then I first thought though.

 

[Calixis]

Literally Reddit: The Movie.
Deadpool's fandom ruined him for me, especially the cosplayers. I'll give it a chance, but I'm not optimistic.

 

[Phil]

My interest in this film just went up high.

 

[The Derp of Hooves]

Probably all the best scenes in that trailer.... le sigh.... Probably gonna see it anyways.... I just don't like the actors voice for some reason.... I'm rambling now.... wheeee.... derpy out

 

[Johnnysaurus Rex]

"High school me would have loved this." is my catchphrase when I see anything for this movie.

 

[Korvo]

He's sometimes got some really good one-liners every so often, but I could never really get into Deadpool.

 

[Loco]

I'm down. Does it look like a cinematic masterpiece that will secure a place as a marvel universe classic ala Iron Man? Hell nah. Does it look like a fun, mindless superhero action flick with an unusual amount of gore and F-bombs? Hell yeah. I can live with that.

 

[Hopeless Wanderer]

^^ This.

Pretty much sums up my view of this film. Well said, Loco.

 

[Calixis]

I want Capeshit to die already.

"It looks like mindless fun!" is what we've had vomited in our laps since the first Avengers hero films. People say that every time one of these is announced as if we've never heard it before. For all people slag off the Nolan 'verse stuff and Suicide Squad being so 'dark' and 'edgy' they're putting out these brainless, colourful, over the top films in equal measure. I say that as somebody who isn't very fond of DC. At least Daredevil was decent, albeit a Netflix show.

Or I'm just bitter because I am sick of Deadpool fans at Cons. Whatever.

 

[Ser Gregor]

Deadpool comics are fantastic. Deadpool fans are the worst. You are doing yourself a disservice if you disregard the movie and character because of the fans. Cable and Deadpool is one of the best Marvel regular series of the past twenty years. Deadpool is also more than just 'The Internet Personified', although in the same way people believe Superman is just a boring god-like figure in red underwear, those who don't explore the character actively will believe Deadpool is nothing more than fart-jokes and excessive violence. Deadpool, when used effectively, is a meta-criticism of comic-books. He will stop in the middle of a fight to point out how uninspired Villain A is and how his evil plan is just a rehash of Villain B's. The trailer has me hoping the movie will be the same but for comicbook films. I'm expecting a movie that will somewhat ruthlessly dissect the overused tropes in modern comic book movies and turn them on their heads.

 

[Ser Gregor]

"It looks like mindless fun!" is what we've had vomited in our laps since the first Avengers hero films. People say that every time one of these is announced as if we've never heard it before. For all people slag off the Nolan 'verse stuff and Suicide Squad being so 'dark' and 'edgy' they're putting out these brainless, colourful, over the top films in equal measure. I say that as somebody who isn't very fond of DC. At least Daredevil was decent, albeit a Netflix show.

And what's the problem with mindless fun? Especially in summer blockbusters.

 

[Calixis]

And what's the problem with mindless fun? Especially in summer blockbusters.

Nothing, I'm just tired of people saying dark and edgy (usually referencing Suicide Squad) is overdone, then unironically saying that we don't have enough 'mindless fun' films.

 

[Ser Gregor]

Nothing, I'm just tired of people saying dark and edgy (usually referencing Suicide Squad) is overdone, then unironically saying that we don't have enough 'mindless fun' films.

Ah, well I'll give you that. 'Dark and Edgy' and 'Mindless and Fun' are definitely two sides of the same coin.

 

[Johnnysaurus Rex]

I used to love Deadpool (it was around Cable and Deadpool I got introduced to the character) and I really enjoyed the humor and of course the 4th wall breaking and commentary he had. To me though it's honestly rare to see such a thing used correctly in comics. I pop back occasionally into his issues (Deadpool and Hawkeye team-up comic was pretty nice) but other than that the character has basically become what the bad Deadpool fans wanted him to be. The last thing that I saw legitimately done with the character was his stint in Wolverine's X-Force team, which due to the nature of comics has been largely forgotten or unrepresented in his character.

While this movie could do something cool with the things Nexus mentioned I only worry that having said cliches present only so Deadpool can comment on them still means those cliches will be present. Given the nature of Deadpool I really don't have much of an idea of how this film will carry itself or what it will be about. Which is a good thing, but the impressions I got from the trailer leaned towards the things about Deadpool I dislike, which I do realize could just be what they needed to for marketing.

 

[Grumpy_Duck]

I'm looking forward to it, Deadpool is the perfect character for a action blockbuster, he's got the action as well as the snappy one-liners that writers try to force into every movie anyway.
Now if only there was a way to fit in the comic's Deadpool vs. ULTIMATUM helicarrier massacre into the movie, and I'd be a happy camper.

 

[The Derp of Hooves]

Is it wierd that part of me wants to see this and part of me is like meh at this?

 

[Zay]

That depends on the parts.

 

[BLADE]

Deadpool comics are fantastic. Deadpool fans are the worst. You are doing yourself a disservice if you disregard the movie and character because of the fans. Cable and Deadpool is one of the best Marvel regular series of the past twenty years. Deadpool is also more than just 'The Internet Personified', although in the same way people believe Superman is just a boring god-like figure in red underwear, those who don't explore the character actively will believe Deadpool is nothing more than fart-jokes and excessive violence. Deadpool, when used effectively, is a meta-criticism of comic-books. He will stop in the middle of a fight to point out how uninspired Villain A is and how his evil plan is just a rehash of Villain B's. The trailer has me hoping the movie will be the same but for comicbook films. I'm expecting a movie that will somewhat ruthlessly dissect the overused tropes in modern comic book movies and turn them on their heads.

Pointing out the incredibly lazy conventions of mainstream comic books does not obviate the fact that you are then wallowing in said conventions. Just like admitting you're a lazy slob doesn't automatically give you rockin' abs. With that being said, the Joe Kelly run (on solo Deadpool) and the Nicieza stuff pace C&D is about as good as mainstream comics (read: shlock, trash, garbage, anti-art) gets. Each probably would have better off as a limited run series though.

@Calixis: There are no truly good comic book movies. There's entertaining stuff --your Iron Mangs and Guardians of the Galaxy--, your almost-film (Spider-Man 2, which for my money is the best superhero film out there, at least in terms of characterization), your vaguely brilliant anti-entertainment (Batman and Robin), your ambivalently grindcore films that aren't sure if they want to be a B-movie (Hellboy which is more a genre film, and the Blades) and probably one of the few pieces of Americana (Superman I and II) the category has contributed to the zeitgeist (not to mention weird stuff that is hard to categorize like the Burton Batmans.) But good movies? Eh.

I'll agree with you that people give the mindless candy-fluff nonsense a pass as if that stuff isn't poisonous on its own (glorifies violence, sexist, etc. etc.) but on a quick note, the Nolan films are a murky and pretentious exercise in snuff bedighted with fuhrerprinzip moralizing, dodgy politics, absurd plots... and a possible leather fetish (not that there's anything wrong with that). Their realism is laughable, the fight scenes are stolid, and they insultingly try to invade genres they are hardly competent to be in (like crime dramas or thrillers.) Even by the somewhat reactionary standards of the thriller genre, they don't really work. Look at Nolan's Following or Memento for much better films (though Begins is probably the most solid of them) of the same sort by the same director.

These films are a cancer. Their continued success is a blind alley in the historical development of the superhero film category.

What we have is a failure of the superhero genre to develop into... well a genre. Let me give you an example. Westerns were never the most critically respected type of film but managed to develop classics like Shane and High Noon which actually have something to say about the world we live in. Superhero films or rather live action superhero films (Mask of the Phantasm remains a cinematic classic) by and large haven't.

Which brings me to...

@OP: It looks dreadful. I suppose the trailer primes you to expect a parody maybe, but when the subject matter is already ridiculous and lightweight (and the most successful movies in the oeuvre rely on precisely a recognition of this fact) what is there to satirize? It's not, I think, as offensive in its pretensions as your Nolanisté films, and it doesn't bow to the stifling crossoverization (at least for now) of well... every single superhero would-be blockbuster, but it still looks juvenile and gross.

Juvenile and gross might be harmless enough though. And I hope I am wrong about it being utterly dreadful. I quite enjoy superhero movies at the end, in the same way I enjoy B-movie shlock (Blood Debts, Shakma, Python 2, Black Ninja) so I hope it at least is entertaining enough to have a beer with a couple of buddies over.