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Dublin's Paddy's Day celebration was hilariously shit this year. A TV presenter was drunk. Anti-Gay rallies were in abundance and I saw children crying in pubs while their parents drank.

The patriotism I feel knows no bounds.
 

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But hey, guys, let's celebrate one of the oldest cultures on the planet by drinking, because we never bothered to learn anything else about their culture.

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Dublin's Paddy's Day celebration was hilariously shit this year. A TV presenter was drunk. Anti-Gay rallies were in abundance and I saw children crying in pubs while their parents drank.

The patriotism I feel knows no bounds.
 

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Meh, Ireland is pretty shit tbh. I've said that for awhile now.

There's a serious underlying racist element to the cultural consciousness, our government has been in political deadlock for a couple of decades, austerity is driving the public mad, the church still hasn't been quite kicked out of schools or political institutions and the alcohol and drug abuse is at a pretty serious breaking point.

Then again, these kinds of problems are prevalent in most countries, so we're not exactly special in our shitness.
 

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Meh, Ireland is pretty shit tbh. I've said that for awhile now.

There's a serious underlying racist element to the cultural consciousness, our government has been in political deadlock for a couple of decades, austerity is driving the public mad, the church still hasn't been quite kicked out of schools or political institutions and the alcohol and drug abuse is at a pretty serious breaking point.

Then again, these kinds of problems are prevalent in most countries, so we're not exactly special in our shitness.

Can I move in with you?
 

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Meh, Ireland is pretty shit tbh. I've said that for awhile now.

There's a serious underlying racist element to the cultural consciousness, our government has been in political deadlock for a couple of decades, austerity is driving the public mad, the church still hasn't been quite kicked out of schools or political institutions and the alcohol and drug abuse is at a pretty serious breaking point.

Then again, these kinds of problems are prevalent in most countries, so we're not exactly special in our shitness.

What expectations are people supposed to set for themselves when the world defines them as drunks? How many countries defined as drunkards aren't economically or socially bankrupt?

Explain to me how it's alright that every Irish character portrayed on television is a drunk, or has drunkard features like rosy cheeks or being always cheerful? And why are they always either incompetent police or criminals? The worst part about watching the snapchats coming out of Dublin is that some retards are playing bagpipes. Because those are real Irish instruments. I don't see anyone playing a lyre.
 

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What expectations are people supposed to set for themselves when the world defines them as drunks? How many countries defined as drunkards aren't economically or socially bankrupt?

Germany.
 

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Subverted trope in that Germans are widely believed to be "social drinkers" and not drunks.
 

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What expectations are people supposed to set for themselves when the world defines them as drunks? How many countries defined as drunkards aren't economically or socially bankrupt?

Explain to me how it's alright that every Irish character portrayed on television is a drunk, or has drunkard features like rosy cheeks or being always cheerful? And why are they always either incompetent police or criminals? The worst part about watching the snapchats coming out of Dublin is that some retards are playing bagpipes. Because those are real Irish instruments. I don't see anyone playing a lyre.

Your point would be valid if the Irish were an oppressed minority. But they're not.
 

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Subverted trope in that Germans are widely believed to be "social drinkers" and not drunks.

Poland. Russia. Scotland.
 
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Poland. Russia.
Both countries are abysmal. Russia's economy is plummeting and both countries have populations that would rather live somewhere else.

Your point would be valid if the Irish were an oppressed minority. But they're not.
If only because they're part of the white group. There's a reason people say "beaten like a red-headed step child."
 

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If only because they're part of the white group. There's a reason people say "beaten like a red-headed step child."

Exactly. So who cares? The stereotypes that are perpetuated aren't harmful. Nobody is going to discriminate against Irish people.
 

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Both countries are abysmal. Russia's economy is plummeting and both countries have populations that would rather live somewhere else."

Yeah, well Russia's economy tanked after they invaded Ukraine. Who did Ireland invade?
 

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Exactly. So who cares? The stereotypes that are perpetuated aren't harmful. Nobody is going to discriminate against Irish people.
Positive racism is still racism. "Asians don't commit crimes. Asians are smart."

Yeah, well Russia's economy tanked after they invaded Ukraine. Who did Ireland invade?
They were invaded by multinational tech companies following entrance into the EU, then abandoned when Poland joined, which is why it collapsed. Explain why there are 7x more Irish-descendants living in America than Ireland. Because Ireland is a dismal, futureless place.
 

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Yeah, well Russia's economy tanked after they invaded Ukraine. Who did Ireland invade?

AMERICA

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Positive racism is still racism. "Asians don't commit crimes. Asians are smart."


They were invaded by multinational tech companies following entrance into the EU, then abandoned when Poland joined, which is why it collapsed. Explain why there are 7x more Irish-descendants living in America than Ireland. Because Ireland is a dismal, futureless place.

I thought it was the potato famine.
 

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Subverted trope in that Germans are widely believed to be "social drinkers" and not drunks.

France. Japan. America. Its not as if people think the only ones who get drunk in the world are the Irish or that they're nothing but a bunch of drunks. Its not the 1900's anymore for petes sake.
 

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The worst part about watching the snapchats coming out of Dublin is that some retards are playing bagpipes.

If you're going to complain about stereotypes and bigotry you probably shouldn't make ableist remarks. Kinda undermines your argument.
 

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Positive racism is still racism. "Asians don't commit crimes. Asians are smart."

The fact that you're equating the two shows that you have no idea what you're talking about. I agree. Positive racism is racism. But Irish people are still white, and they share the same privileges.

When's the last time an Irish person was shot by the police because of his heritage? Or loss a job?

If you're going to complain about stereotypes and bigotry you probably shouldn't make ableist remarks. Kinda undermines your argument.

And this times 100.
 

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Do whatever you want with this holiday, it's trash and does nothing to uplift Irish culture or history aside from misinform and increase sales of American-made Guinness.
 
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