Looking for Trouble OOC

[Santoro]

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=673761#post673761

I don't think a database of every force user in the galaxy will fly- as a matter of fact, I know it won't. Both people used were in disguise, not registered members of either main order, and all security footage was taken away. The only Hutt troops who would have seen the attackers clearly enough to get an idea of their appearance were Darksaber, who were in on the plan.

I don't think this is going to be a viable way to prove who attacked. Out of a galaxy of 100,000,000,000,000,000 sentient beings, cataloguing every one for force sensitivity using a database which hasn't been mentioned before seems unlikely, especially unlikely for the Bogan to pinpoint the two responsible (a generic human female and an anzati) within the span of a week.

 

[Ols]

It's not an extensive database, it's the best they can put together. Records of current Dark Jedi would be pretty much dead on because they have access to those people day in day out. Records of Jedi would be quite well established because the Jedi are, at the end of the day a public organisation, not a secret one, and a hell of a lot of the Dark Jedi seem to have been Jedi at one time or another.

This isn't a database that catalogues everyone for force sensitivity, it's a database of known force users who the Bogan (and that could be any of the PCs or NPCs) have come into contact with, one way or another. Every mission debrief, every intelligence report, any news report cataloguing force activity - any one that mentions a force user would get put into the database for reference purposes. At no point have we established, either, that we have any idea who the attackers are, it's pure conjecture based on what would be reported (there must have, at the very least been a news report on the attack if Tusa's banging on about it in his speeches), and where we want to start (we eliminated the Jedi and Dark Jedi, because it's unlikely that someone known to be within either faction would be involved. That kind of thing). It's process of elimination and we've narrowed it down to leads. We could send our guys to watch a shortlist 5 human female force users for months and never have any clue that any of them are responsible.

 

[Santoro]

Out of millions upon millions of candidates, the search would take weeks at best and be very incomplete, since both PCs used were indie users. My case has been made, we'll need an admin ruling on whether or not this database would be sufficient and whether the Bogan could magi-search to find them, ID them, and move on.

 

[Mars]

Keep in mind that Alex has never had any contact with the Bogan. All his training has been conducted by independant Force Sensitives and he has little desire to contact them regardless.

 

[Ols]

If getting an admin to solve this is the only way to move forwards then alright. If anything hasn't been clarified in the story thread, this thread or below, then let me know and I'll do my best to explain it.

I've tried my best to make it clear this isn't some super database, of every force sensitive in the galaxy, it's essentially searching the Bogan's archives for known force users (that means trained - there's not millions of them, not even close. Tens of thousands maybe, no more than that).

I don't understand how searching an existing database (because keeping records is something pretty much every organisation does, whether it's the Bogan Empire or anything else of that matter) would take weeks either. You run a search, through the files, a list is compiled, you begin to filter it based on criteria, which is all we've done. We haven't found anything definitively, we're exhausting our resources for leads.

As for the characters specifically, they may not be in any faction currently, but that doesn't mean the Bogan wouldn't be aware of them. One is an ex-Dark Jedi of the Bogan, the other is a famous Anzati nobleman.

 

[Mars]

As for the characters specifically, they may not be in any faction currently, but that doesn't mean the Bogan wouldn't be aware of them. One is an ex-Dark Jedi of the Bogan, the other is a famous Anzati nobleman.

Alex isn't all that famous in terms of galactic affairs. His father is a rich man, that's about it. Noone knows it was him that killed Xall, not even his twin brother Aion, and there's really no reason to know of him aside from "Cool, this guy's dad is really rich."

Edit: Also, as I said before, neither have made contact with the Bogan, so there's no reason for them to be in this database.

 

[Jiang Winters]

My ruling is this:

The Bogan can use the Database to eliminate all Bogan from suspicion, but that's it. Their database doesn't have any information on ANY non-Bogan characters, period. If they want their database to include information on Independent Force Users, the Jedi, the Hutts, or the Republic, then they'll have to gather and add that information IC'ly, through RP'ing.

 

[Gambler]

I don't really see how going through a Bogan specific database would eliminate them from suspicion. It is all too easy to point out that they could have erased data to victimize themselves. Plus, going from the descriptions, it would be damn hard to determine who could be a possible suspect and who is above suspicion.

 

[Count Sam]

The Bogan would normally have a database about Tanoor since she was an ex Bogan high lord, and she has quit a history with them.

About Albert well the chance that they would have anything related to him is hard, but tbh the Bogan just like the Jedi would normally have some intelligence about neutral sensitive force users since it is their job to look for them and get them to join the Bogan.

 

[Jiang Winters]

I don't really see how going through a Bogan specific database would eliminate them from suspicion. It is all too easy to point out that they could have erased data to victimize themselves. Plus, going from the descriptions, it would be damn hard to determine who could be a possible suspect and who is above suspicion.

Mm. Good point, I hadn't thought of that. x_x

Guess this puts the Bogan right back to square 1 for figuring out whodunit, eh? eh?