Mantle of the Arbiter

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The Arbiter


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A rare and secretive sect of the Jedi Order, the mantle of “Arbiter” arose from those loyal to the dark side, who realised that the only way to ensure the longevity of their teachings, was to implant a powerful and indispensable asset within the Jedi itself. The first, was said to have been son to a powerful Exiled Jedi and one of the first to study the teachings of the Dark Side of the Force.

The boy was trained not only in the dark side of the force, but was taught how to be a ruthless assassin, who could live in the shadows. The young boy once a Jedi Knight was said to have made himself so valuable to the order that he was eventually accepted into the council. A position from which he was able to manipulate the Jedi and create the mantle known as "The Arbiter" a lasting position for all those who would follow him

While the mantle of “Arbiter” holds no more power than that of a mere Jedi Knight, it is held in far higher esteem than the average foot soldier of the order. Answering to the Jedi Council and the Jedi Council alone they are tasked with completing the most heinous of tasks on their behalf, and are therefore expected to bear the scars of those actions. Namely the taint of the dark side of the force. For this reason, they are very rarely seen by those not on council and tend to keep well away from the vicinity of Jedi Temples.

There is however no reason to believe that there can be only one Arbiter, however there is no record in any archive that details any two Arbiters working together at any point in their history, with the Arbiter themselves picking a successor (opposed to an apprentice) rather than the council appointing one of their own choosing.

Due to the lack of visual evidence, the vague stories and the lack of names linked to the mantle many of the Order believe the Arbiter to be nothing but myth and legend. With some even condemning at its damaging effect on the Jedi’s image.



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My intent with this idea is to add a bit of weight to my character Omnia since there seems to be some debate about the character history, and the mantle that I have named with no real approval which has understandably caused some confusion. I think it would also be something interesting to explore in the new timeline, not only the origins of the Sith themselves, but the numerous avenues they may have taken to survive in the years after their exile. Including the implanting of a student of the dark side, within the order itself. I have left the idea of "multiple" arbiters open because I realise that other people might wish to have some hand in this kind of character, however for myself this helps me to add a little bit of flavour into my character. I feel that it is no different from me just writing into my character sheet that "I was once a member of the Jedi Council" or "I am a dark side Jedi". The only difference is that I have created a slightly more plausible background to my character.

There is also the aspect that Jedi cannot be all good that I want to explore, and although they may have devoted themselves to an ideal, they are just as open to corruption as any senator is. I love the idea of these figures in the background that do the bidding of the council, allowing them to affect the galaxy on a much wider scale than if they maintained a singular route of “We will fight bad with good” and makes them slightly more human in the fact that – sometimes you have to do a little bad, to do a lot more good.
 
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I realise this is not up to the same high standard as my usual thread templates, however I wanted to put it out firstly to refine the information I have input here. It is directly linked to the character Omnia and while I planned to scrap the idea initially the struggle to get her approved means I have decided to post this.
 

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First a question, then my reason for asking it.

Question: Why would the Jedi Order allow any dark sider within their ranks at all?

Reasoning: Should the Council or any other sect see it fit to authorize, even in secret, more dishonorable or unsavory methods of getting a job done, they have two groups of individuals already within the Order itself that are suited to the taske, temple guards/Jedi sentinels and the Jedi Justicars. My Jedi temple guard, Kesiya Naima, link my signature, has used torture to complete her objectives, and killed in the name of secrecy. What sort of missions would this "Arbiter" be sent on that someone like Kesiya or even a Jedi Justicar wouldn't be able to perform?

The Jedi Council having a dark sided assassin at their beck and call just doesn't seem like something the Jedi would do, at any point in their history, wartime or peace. Also, even if this Arbiter was a member of the Jedi, a Jedi like Kesiya would simply kill Omnia outright, even if she knew Omnia was working for the Council, and Kesiya just wouldn't tell anyone what happened. Kesiya would probably just assume Omnia was a temple guard that had fallen to the dark side, which would prompt her to execute her without hesitation.

Now, I really like Omnia, but as far as I can see, I really don't think the Council would allow a dark sider assassin type to masquerade as an actual Jedi Knight. It'd be one thing if she had once been a sith and was being slowly brought towards the Light, or perhaps if she was secretly a dark sider operative of some sort working from within the Order itself. I just don't see the Council utilizing a secret dark sider assassin when they have better, safer options available to them. If the Council needed someone killed or assassinated, Kesiya would do so without question, but she does not use or practice the Dark side at all.

So, since the niche for "black ops Jedi" is kinda already filled, my last question would be: What does the Arbiter give to the Jedi that the Order does not already have?​
 
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First a question, then my reason for asking it.

Question: Why would the Jedi Order allow any dark sider within their ranks at all?

Reasoning: Should the Council or any other sect see it fit to authorize, even in secret, more dishonorable or unsavory methods of getting a job done, they have two groups of individuals already within the Order itself that are suited to the taske, temple guards/Jedi sentinels and the Jedi Justicars. My Jedi temple guard, Kesiya Naima, link my signature, has used torture to complete her objectives, and killed in the name of secrecy. What sort of missions would this "Arbiter" be sent on that someone like Kesiya or even a Jedi Justicar wouldn't be able to perform?

The Jedi Council having a dark sided assassin at their beck and call just doesn't seem like something the Jedi would do, at any point in their history, wartime or peace. Also, even if this Arbiter was a member of the Jedi, a Jedi like Kesiya would simply kill Omnia outright, even if she knew Omnia was working for the Council, and Kesiya just wouldn't tell anyone what happened. Kesiya would probably just assume Omnia was a temple guard that had fallen to the dark side, which would prompt her to execute her without hesitation.

Now, I really like Omnia, but as far as I can see, I really don't think the Council would allow a dark sider assassin type to masquerade as an actual Jedi Knight. It'd be one thing if she had once been a sith and was being slowly brought towards the Light, or perhaps if she was secretly a dark sider operative of some sort working from within the Order itself. I just don't see the Council utilizing a secret dark sider assassin when they have better, safer options available to them. If the Council needed someone killed or assassinated, Kesiya would do so without question, but she does not use or practice the Dark side at all.

So, since the niche for "black ops Jedi" is kinda already filled, my last question would be: What does the Arbiter give to the Jedi that the Order does not already have?​

so unfathomable that corvo was even a jedi for awhile.. dark side and all..

i dont have the time to say much other than i disagree with pretty much everything you said lol.

i will give my full opinion later, but i do like the idea Tsu.
 

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This is the history behind this sect, what your seeing/reading here is the full picture, the Jedi are not seeing or reading the full backstory.

As far as the Jedi are aware, however long ago, they trained a boy, who became indispensable (if that's a point for expansion I will happily do so)... his goal was to become the first Sith implanted in the order so as to ensure the Siths survival (or if possible the study of the Dark Side), much like palpatine did, his signature was masked to there knowledge and therefore has allowed him to build upon the plan in which his father had foreseen.

Fast forward to the present timeline, the Arbiter is a stand alone assassin, that has been around LONG before these positions of which you currently speak, and the types of missions Omnia would be involved in, would transcend those which they might give to the run of the mill assassins and soldiers whom would not even know the missions existed.

The niche isn't "black ops" Jedi either, you are thinking purely dealing with external problems, my character would eliminate internal problems, external problems, would be sent on a whim to stop something from happening that a Counciler may of foreseen or just killing things because it fits the agenda.

I want you to think of the way Hydra operated in the MCU just because, it is the most recent and easiest to reference! They infiltrated Sheild and despite doing horrible and unthinkable things, became a nessisary and useful evil.

Now, I can totally expand on the description if there are things that are unclear, however the concept itself while it may need tweaking or refining, seemed pretty solid to me!
 
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So this is essentially a Dark Jedi, but one that's loyal to the Jedi Order and Council?
 

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So this is essentially a Dark Jedi, but one that's loyal to the Jedi Order and Council?

Loyal in that it serves the purpose of preserving the teachings of the Dark Side, something that it was founded on, the fact that they can work within the Jedi as a Darksider is that it's expected for them to be marred by the corruption of the dark side due to there role!

However, I'd like to think that the idea also puts them in a position to preserve the Sith order, meaning there is that opportunity to step out of the shadows and affect the Sith Orde also.
 

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so unfathomable that corvo was even a jedi for awhile.. dark side and all..

i dont have the time to say much other than i disagree with pretty much everything you said lol.

I'm really glad you brought up Corvo, to put it bluntly, @Phoenix had to put in the time and effort that it took to get his character into the position to where he could practically decapitate the Empire. It took months from what I gather for him to plan and work towards that goal. This "Arbiter" would have direct and unfiltered access to the Jedi Council, wouldn't be upholden to the Jedi laws unless enforced by the Council themselves, and has no loyalty to the light side of the Force. Don't misunderstand me, I have no issue with him being a wolf in sheep's clothing, I love those types of characters and I love Omnia as a character, but I refuse to accept that anyone would just be given that level of access to such high ranking characters without actually having to work for it. I'd prefer to see @Tsunami RP out the first Arbiter among the Jedi, rather than just being given direct access to the Jedi leadership by claiming his character was the Arbiter.

If this site lore was meant to be used for next timeline that would be great, a dark sider realizing that the light will win the war and choosing to pretend to follow the light side so that the ways of darkness might be preserved would be an amazing story arc to read and watch develop. If someone wants to play a spy that's great, spies are fun, but they should be expected to actually have to RP out the process of getting that high up the food chain within the faction they are spying on. As this reads, if it was approved by the admins we'd have a character who didn't truly serve the Jedi with direct access to the Jedi Council with no work put in to get to that point. That's bullshit.​

This is the history behind this sect, what your seeing/reading here is the full picture, the Jedi are not seeing or reading the full backstory.As far as the Jedi are aware, however long ago, they trained a boy, who became indispensable (if that's a point for expansion I will happily do so)... his goal was to become the first Sith implanted in the order so as to ensure the Siths survival (or if possible the study of the Dark Side), much like palpatine did, his signature was masked to there knowledge and therefore has allowed him to build upon the plan in which his father had foreseen.

Fast forward to the present timeline, the Arbiter is a stand alone assassin, that has been around LONG before these positions of which you currently speak, and the types of missions Omnia would be involved in, would transcend those which they might give to the run of the mill assassins and soldiers whom would not even know the missions existed.

The niche isn't "black ops" Jedi either, you are thinking purely dealing with external problems, my character would eliminate internal problems, external problems, would be sent on a whim to stop something from happening that a Councillor may of foreseen or just killing things because it fits the agenda.

I want you to think of the way Hydra operated in the MCU just because, it is the most recent and easiest to reference! They infiltrated Shield and despite doing horrible and unthinkable things, became a necessary and useful evil.

Now, I can totally expand on the description if there are things that are unclear, however the concept itself while it may need tweaking or refining, seemed pretty solid to me!

No see, I know exactly what your saying, I do understand, but what I'm saying is that if you want to have your own Hydra agents (Sith) infiltrate Shield (the Jedi Order), then that's fine. But you have to actually infiltrate them, you can't just say you already did and that your working with the IC Jedi leadership directly. Subterfuge requires time and effort that has to be put in from the ground up, I'm not opposed to the idea of the Arbiter, I'm opposed to it just being handed to you via site lore.

The bit about the black ops Jedi was in relation to the Jedi's IC perspective of the Arbiter, why would they need someone like them when they already have Jedi who would be able to do the Order's dirty work. If your idea is that there are just somethings other characters wouldn't be able to do or wouldn't be allowed to do then your wrong, Kesiya is not a good Jedi, she's a very, very, dark Jedi. She's currently torturing the former High Priestess of Tund, she's about to torture the self-proclaimed Darth Fenris, and she's worked with pirates and terrorists to commit acts of terrorism, insurgency, torture, and even murder.

If the Jedi Council needed someone to investigate members of the Order itself, she already has. She hunted down and captured a former Jedi who'd joined the Sith, and she also hunted down a wayward Initiate who'd attacked their own master only to drag the Initiate back to the temple. If your suggesting members of the Jedi Council would need and/or want to have upstanding members of the Jedi Order, NPC or PC, assassinated then I'm afraid your mistaking the Jedi for the Sith. As far as missions my Jedi Kesiya wouldn't know about, nearly any mission she takes is one very few Jedi would know about and would be handed down to her from the Council or the Generals directly, and I accept that similar missions given to Omnia wouldn't be ones Kesiya wouldn't be aware of, that's not what I meant at all.

The way I see it, I love the idea or the goal behind this lore article, but it's missing two key bits of information for it to really be put in place, build up and IC justification.As you said, this article is the big picture and the Jedi Council wouldn't be aware of the true origins of the Arbiter, that's fine and I have no issue with that, but what is the IC justification for the Jedi Council taking this individual on within the role that they have? If it's tradition, as in here has always been an Arbiter, then that tradition would have to be built on within the RP, no subterfuge type character should be given such influence without first working for it through the RP.

I'd set this lore article more as the goal to be built over time, rather than having it already be in place right now. I refuse to accept that there have been darksiders with unfiltered access to the Jedi Council for centuries or even thousands of years without a single slip up or someone suspecting something. Dozens if not hundreds of the finest Jedi Masters and Grandmasters the Order would have ever known over the eras didn't pick up on the true motives of the Arbiters? Bullshit. Again, I have no issue with this idea, but I do have issue with it being just handed to you because you asked for it rather than you being required to RP it out like the rest of us, and yes I said the rest of us, your not the only one that has or has had characters of this nature. Corvo is the best example by far, but I know of at least 3 other characters right now that are currently working against their own factions for various reasons. Kesiya, while not a spy, also operates under the subterfuge rules, working to gain intel on the Empire and how to destroy it. Hell, I have half a dozen objectives I'm working on right now towards similar goals of my own.

There's also the issue with the whole Arbiter selecting their own successor thing, what's to say the person they chose to follow in their footsteps would even be a dark sider? It's not like the Jedi would just let the Arbiter select a sith or other dark sider to take their place, it'd have to be an actual member of the Jedi Order. It wouldn't be impossible to say the Arbiter convinced a potential student to convert to the dark side, but what's to guarantee this new Arbiter in training wouldn't then let slip the truth or be found out? One or two mishaps over the generations could be overlooked sure, but considering the context you'd have students going missing or being found dead, rivalries between potential students, and then the connection leading back to the Arbiter themselves.

This type of a sect within the Jedi wouldn't last more than a few generations at most before someone among the Jedi figured it out and purged them. Even then your assuming that future Jedi FLs would even approve such characters. If I was the Jedi FL you would be required to start off just like any other spy if you told me you wanted to play the Arbiter route, and even if you didn't tell me, what reason would I then have to even appoint you to such a high ranking position within the Order?​
 
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Seeing as you decided to waffle on spouting paragraphs of from what I can tell unfiltered random points I'll address then each by paragraph:

Paragraph one:
Firstly, I am not gaining anything from this lore, the position is that of a Knight and I will have about as much direct contact with the current only council member @Narsi as anyone else will! The fact that my character only answers to the council, merely is an explanation of where my chain of command lies. The only difference between my character and yours is there are ranks above you that you'd listen two, I have given an IC reason for not doing that, which has not handed me any benifit, merely added flavour.

Your second paragraph I won't address because half of it seems like you are butt hurt that, your character might somehow be devalued by this proposition which btw this is...

Again paragraph three is "why can your character do this and mine can't" - You have described hunting down a Sith (regardless of fallen Jedi) and an Initiate. My character could be called upon to assassinate another council member if deemed nessisary. You forget the Jedi in this timeline are much like the crusading christians... not the slap on the wrist good guys from the films. In kingdom of heaven (the film) religious men had others executed in the name of belief.

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What have I been given? I've not gained anything by this, I've merely put a background to a character, are you going to comment on every mandalorian profile of someone who has put "My clan was strong and we waged war across the Stars, now I stand in there place blah blah" of course your not, the roleplay, time and effort for my characters history is being explain within a lore article, there is no requirement for me to RP something that in my story has been an on going thing for a long long time...

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More of you constant "Your character does this and mine can't" the fact is you have not set in place the history behind your character. I'm working my back to front and will still have to put in AS much work, as anyone else to achieve my personal goals with this character... I have access to the Jedi council but that is based purely on the storyline I'm creating... by your recommendation I would like you to turn the age of your character back to 1 years old and I want you to roleplay all the actions they took to get to were they did now. Being petty? Yes... I think you are.

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They do let the arbiter choose there own successor... because that is the history that is written about by a player driven storyline of MY creation, if an Admin wishes to query it, that it totally fine and I will have that discussion.

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Well seeing as you think that you are so switched on, feel free to turn your attentions to my character if this all gets ironed out by an Admin with the correct authority to 'demand' such radical changes to a story written by another individual pops up!

I look forward to your character popping up and attempting to purge mine, because it is blatebtly obvious to you OCCly that they are a darksider.

As a side note, I would like to state how disgusting I think it is that you have written such petty comments, which are not constructive in nature what so ever and are a borderline attack on an idea I have created, based purely on what I can see as being the fact your character has no part in it.
 

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A staff member will get to this article in appropriate time. In the meantime, both of you stop this back and forth as it's becoming hilariously unproductive. Thank you.
 

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Format Updated - Picture Added.

Looks a bit more presentable.
 

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I will review this and any other submissions tonight. Apologies for the delay.
 

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Updated slightly.
 

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Question as I am reviewing this: Has Jedi leadership signed off on this being a sect of the Order?
 

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Question as I am reviewing this: Has Jedi leadership signed off on this being a sect of the Order?

To answer your question, we have not signed off on this being a sect of the Order. I just had a chance to review the write-up and do have some thoughts. I will admit that I have read none of the other comments but @Malon's. I really only think the actual write-up matters. Similarly, I have tried to keep an open mind on this particular lore article but really am struggling with it. As always, here are some super fun bullet points.
  • Arbiters v. Shadows: This really seems a duplicate of the Jedi Shadows. The Shadows are the secret assassins of the Jedi Order who walk a very careful balance of carrying out some less than savory tasks, while staying within the bounds of the Lightside. They also answer directly to the Council and allow members to explore less "good" Jedi.
  • Morally Questionable v. Darkside: There are plenty of morally questionable Jedi, Jedi who formerly used the Darkside, and Jedi who have used the Darkside once or twice in terrible moments (see: Corvo, Shae before she went back to the Sith, Soshat, Alexia Morr, ext.). There is a stark difference between morally questionable actions and actively using the Darkside. I simply can't wrap my mind around the Council ever letting a dedicated group of Darksider users working on behalf of the Order. Especially, how the Jedi Council operated BEFORE the destruction of Tython.
  • The Darkside and you: I believe the position on this has been pretty consistent over the Timeline. The Darkside corrupts absolutely. If you use it for a lifetime you can't be a "good guy" anymore. It will pretty much corrupt your very soul. That would likely make it next to impossible for a group of dedicated Darksiders to work for the greater good on behalf of the Jedi, even though they are assassins ext. It would also be very obvious to any Jedi that came in contact with them that they did use the Darkside heavily. The farther you walk down the Darkside path the more difficult it is to use the Lightside. It would be impossible to even fake being a Jedi.
  • Overall: I have a difficult time seeing this fit into how the Order was portrayed before the Timeskip, and what we know about the Darkside of the Force.
 

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Arbiters v. Shadows: This really seems a duplicate of the Jedi Shadows. The Shadows are the secret assassins of the Jedi Order who walk a very careful balance of carrying out some less than savory tasks, while staying within the bounds of the Lightside. They also answer directly to the Council and allow members to explore less "good" Jedi.

The total difference is that while I understand that the Jedi Shadows exist as a route for those Jedi who want to explore the "less" good route, when I looked into the broader idea behind my character, it did not fit in with what I envisioned. Simply put, to achieve what I wanted story wise would not have made sense if I had played the role of a Jedi Shadow and while I respect the idea behind that avenue it does not suit me. What I have done here, which is what I am trying to defend is that I have tried to flesh out my characters history and backstory. I could have quite easily and acceptably written stuff about my characters biography saying "She is a Dark Side user who is hiding within the Jedi" which would have been totally acceptable, instead I have decided to flesh that concept out and give a compelling/interesting story line for myself (or others) to explore. Again, there is no real benefit gained from this story, other than it adding flavour. There is no losses made by the Jedi whom no PC's are affected and I am in no way saying that during my roleplays I will be stating that NPC Council Member No. 7 States "You should do this" to justify my actions.

Morally Questionable v. Darkside: There are plenty of morally questionable Jedi, Jedi who formerly used the Darkside, and Jedi who have used the Darkside once or twice in terrible moments (see: Corvo, Shae before she went back to the Sith, Soshat, Alexia Morr, ext.). There is a stark difference between morally questionable actions and actively using the Darkside. I simply can't wrap my mind around the Council ever letting a dedicated group of Darksider users working on behalf of the Order. Especially, how the Jedi Council operated BEFORE the destruction of Tython.

You are looking at this as if it has just cropped up this timeline, what I have written is that is has been going on for a long long time, and has grown to become part of the order itself, those who know about it accepting the sects existence because to those who are alive now, it has always been that way. The idea of infiltration and manipulation is to fool and deceive. I'm not saying that the council now wouldn't be able to question this sect, and in fact I would love that! It would make for an amazing story in my opinion where they realise that they had been allowing something darker to thrive within their ranks.

"The boy was trained not only in the dark side of the force, but was taught how to be a ruthless assassin, who could live in the shadows. The young boy once a Jedi Knight was said to have made himself so valuable to the order that he was eventually accepted into the council. A position from which he was able to manipulate the Jedi and create the mantle known as "The Arbiter" a lasting position for all those who would follow him."

  • The Darkside and you: I believe the position on this has been pretty consistent over the Timeline. The Darkside corrupts absolutely. If you use it for a lifetime you can't be a "good guy" anymore. It will pretty much corrupt your very soul. That would likely make it next to impossible for a group of dedicated Darksiders to work for the greater good on behalf of the Jedi, even though they are assassins ext. It would also be very obvious to any Jedi that came in contact with them that they did use the Darkside heavily. The farther you walk down the Darkside path the more difficult it is to use the Lightside. It would be impossible to even fake being a Jedi.

    Again, this is something I am aware of and although my character is a student of the Darkside, this sect does not embody it the same as the Sith do. She might be arbitrarily evil, mean and cruel however there are Jedi who are such but a persons character is not a corruptible trait, they just are that way. For that reason I feel it is fair to assume that my character can perform acts on behalf of the Jedi, her purpose is to protect the right to learn and teach the dark side of the force.

    In terms of it being very obvious, these beings who hold the Mantle of "Arbiter" do not tend to often step within the temple themselves, and would not be in contact with many Jedi other than through holocoms which if on regularly assigned missions in wartime, I don't see being too far fetched.
 

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So, I approved the character solely because it is near the end of the timeline. I am not going to be overly strict with characters that are only going to exist in this timeline for a few more months. Under normal circumstances I likely would not have approved the character. The lore article is something entirely different because it does not necessarily go away when the timeline changes. I still find it incredibly important to maintain some continuity.

My final thoughts are simple. A group of dedicated Darkside force users simply could not exist as part of the Order. I just can't get past that. If @Malon sees things differently, I will defer to his wisdom.
 

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I defer to the Jedi Faction Leader here and I agree with his ascertain. Dark side and Jedi do not mix at any point in Star Wars history, but especially now, when both sides are so zealous. In light of this, I am going to have to decline this app and archive it.
 
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