prepping for time jump

Empress

STAFF EMERITUS
SWRP Writer
Joined
Nov 27, 2005
Messages
17,704
Reaction score
75
both actually are quite heavily though Im having them more behind the scenes right now working things over while things are being held up IC'y....Bac..... :P

Boli more over because he is one of the few in the republic who has a long standing history of working with me and knows how I command, how I utilize strategy, and much broader lines of thought as far as long lasting ramifications on the cost/ resources, and cause and effects of various things...

having someone who is already conditioned to think in the same way I think and has worked with before is an invaluable asset.


I suggest a Senate Committee meeting review the battle, and then determine Adara's fate. Since Gabriel Djibril is returning, I'd be willing to participate in the committee meeting.


it was to my understanding that there was to be a military tribunal with possibility of appeals to the senate.. though by every right the senate can launch a probe into the whole affair to start with over all.

but again I okayed the request because...it's realistic, Im not the one conducting it.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Tsar Fire

Fwoosh
SWRP Writer
Joined
Mar 1, 2008
Messages
4,057
Reaction score
0
both actually are quite heavily though Im having them more behind the scenes right now working things over while things are being held up IC'y....Bac..... :P

Boli more over because he is one of the few in the republic who has a long standing history of working with me and knows how I command, how I utilize strategy, and much broader lines of thought as far as long lasting ramifications on the cost/ resources, and cause and effects of various things...

having someone who is already conditioned to think in the same way I think and has worked with before is an invaluable asset.

Fine, but is that a good reason to demote me, and shove me in a locker as if the work I've been doing doesn't mean anything?

I can understand putting someone into a position to be helpful, especially if they're someone you know how to work with, but I can't understand giving me the axe because of that.

It was your choice to restructure the Republic so that there were 3 clear power positions and you can fill them how you choose, but then taking people who had authority and were working hard for the faction, and shoving them out the door isn't a great way to build enthusiasm.

I don't believe that my situation has been handled fairly, and I'm just tired of the vagueness and backhanded punishments I've gotten from the new Republic leadership.

It's also the fact that Will is praised as the Hero of Denon when my fleet did a substantial chunk of the work in disrupting the Hutt fleets. Adara repeatedly risks her neck for the Republic, is willing to sacrifice herself to let the 15th escape, and she gets court marshaled.

I co-ordinate with other Republic sub-commanders and members and start rebuilding momentum for the faction, and when a new administration comes in, they shut me out.

I was under the impression that working hard for a faction allowed you to move up, instead of people being arbitrarily chosen to replace you.

EDIT: I was also doing "behind the scenes things" I was working with Niner for plans on how the Tuang could betray the Hutts, I was trying to plan a counter-attack on Bothawui, but Jiang nixed that(Saying he had it under control), and I was also maintaining the Republic boards, keeping them clean and up to date.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

jpchewy01

Resident Shoshanna
SWRP Writer
Joined
Jan 25, 2009
Messages
3,911
Reaction score
7
I understand Tsar Fire's point. I think this kind of anger could and should be funneled into your character. I liked Cailst's proposal for a coup. Just my two cents.
 

Empress

STAFF EMERITUS
SWRP Writer
Joined
Nov 27, 2005
Messages
17,704
Reaction score
75
Denon is something to be taken into account...and it was never said it would not be. there is going to be a review over all the battles one was involved in , both IC, and how they handled themselves oocly as well.

there has never been a vagueness about it on that level. but also given Denon was the ONLY republic win of any sort does give voice to major underlying problems. the republic has NO momentum, the great use of the fleet has been muscle, which we have lost because thats the ONLY thing being used, and were burning it out to nothing. this is a major reason why there is sweeping changes.

There was word they wanted to push an inquiry. protocol is put on leave pending whatever.

Right AFTER prime, like days after Card arranged a cease fire, so other than dealing with pirates/crime syndicates or building up on the boarders while waiting on the new fleet, nobody is doing anything.



stage a coup whatever, I was chosen to take over BECAUSE there was the need to fix things and in ways that needed fixed are where I specialize in. That is why I was picked to run it. and I'm going to run it as I know how, and what has had stellar success in the past.

the worst your admiral risked was a slap on the wrist, and a demotion until she could prove herself once again and being more tactically sound and mindful of resources and multi layerd tactical planning as to avoid what happened again.

a coup will just be met swiftly with an end., and I would honestly not like to resort to such.

I can jump on the Admiralty's back and get them to decide to act on their plans, or drop them. but as I said BECAUSE I was involved s JA, Im going to largely stay out of it overall.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Raif

Head Schemer
SWRP Writer
Joined
Nov 11, 2010
Messages
2,516
Reaction score
39
This may not be the proper place for it, but I'd like to say I think Tsar is right to feel like he's getting shafted. I was in on the planning of the Ando Op, and it would have worked fine had reinforcements not been able to magically show up. It was always meant to be a hit and run, not a long drawn out battle. For someone who volunteered at the last minute to fill an opening (an act which should be commended, especially on a site like this where inactivity cripples so many promising threads) it seems wrong to be sending so much ooc bull his way.

IC, unfortunately no matter how well planned attacks are, sometimes they go belly up and the person in charge has to be held responsible for the failure. If that is what's happening here with Adena then that's well and good, but I understand why Tsar is getting his hackles up because it seems to have a lot of ooc crap attached to it.

That said, (insert shameless plus here) I'm sure an Echani fighter with tactical experience would be welcomed in SOLAG :)
 

Tsar Fire

Fwoosh
SWRP Writer
Joined
Mar 1, 2008
Messages
4,057
Reaction score
0

Well, get on their backs then. I'll I've heard from Will is. "You're demoted and we're waiting for an excuse to throw you out" in effect.

I'm tired of all this... mess.

Decreasing the number of people in a position to advise or assist seems odd to me, but the decision is yours, as always.

I did what I could, with the restraints Jiang put on me (no counter-attacks, no big fleet movements, no senate etc etc.) So I launched a raid and tried to convince the tuang to defect to the Republic, since the Hutt's had so many allies.

Too bad that doesn't mean anything since I'm not "familiar" with how you do things.:CIsee
 

Empress

STAFF EMERITUS
SWRP Writer
Joined
Nov 27, 2005
Messages
17,704
Reaction score
75
as I have said. Nobody was doing much do to the cease fire.. inquiries were being done by others, WHO they were going to look at in all I am not 100%

as AGAIN, I was on the other side of that battle, I allowed what seemed like a completely realistic course of action to be taken. I can jump on them to decide if they are doing anything about it or not, if I hear nothing in the next 2 days I will just work something with staff on it, then come to how I personally want to handle it.


also as I said AFTER the jump once there is reviews and such there should be MORE people in positions. I just dont want to have commanders who cant tell their port side from a nutron star without making sure they can ic/oocly meet the requirements of such a position first.


Also IF everyone is going to be going solag, I may have to put a roster cap on them, simply because I cant have the entire military force going there.... if so they will find themselves more broken up and embedded with regular fleets enlarge because we will have little choice as there will be nobody to run the actual navy/army.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Tsar Fire

Fwoosh
SWRP Writer
Joined
Mar 1, 2008
Messages
4,057
Reaction score
0
as I have said. Nobody was doing much do to the cease fire.. inquiries were being done by others, WHO they were going to look at in all I am not 100%

as AGAIN, I was on the other side of that battle, I allowed what seemed like a completely realistic course of action to be taken. I can jump on them to decide if they are doing anything about it or not, if I hear nothing in the next 2 days I will just work something with staff on it, then come to how I personally want to handle it.


also as I said AFTER the jump once there is reviews and such there should be MORE people in positions. I just dont want to have commanders who cant tell their port side from a nutron star without making sure they can ic/oocly meet the requirements of such a position first.


Also IF everyone is going to be going solag, I may have to put a roster cap on them, simply because I cant have the entire military force going there.... if so they will find themselves more broken up and embedded with regular fleets enlarge because we will have little choice as there will be nobody to run the actual navy/army.

If Adara was going to cause your administration trouble, she would not need to use a military coup.:CStern

Anyways, I'm not sure what this post is saying, apart from the SOLAG part.

I'm pretty sure you've said that I'm not being allowed to remain as Supreme Commander, and that I'm gonna experience a severe position cut.

I could be wrong, because you are a master of subtlety and sometimes I can't figure out exactly where you stand.

TBH: What Adara would like is to be stuck in a combined arms Ground:Space force of elite shock-troops, and then aimed at things. She doesn't have sweeping strategic skill (I don't have time IRL to study all the maps. I Just CANT) but she is good at handling actual battlefields and planning/refining ops, once she has targets. With minimal oversight, she could lead a force and do substantial damage, she just needs to not get thrown into an Ando Primo situation.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Green Ranger

DRAGONZORD!
Administrator
SWRP Supporter
Joined
Dec 6, 2005
Messages
21,028
Reaction score
2,804
You know, I'd actually feel for you if you weren't such a whiny bitch, Tsar.
 

Dmitri

Admin Emeritus
SWRP Writer
Joined
Nov 10, 2010
Messages
14,311
Reaction score
1,878
Personally, Tsar, I suggest leaving it at be because it's obvious complaining isn't working. Instead, you should just attend the Senate review committee and ICly defend your stance there. You'd probably have a better chance there than OOCly bickering here.
 

Tsar Fire

Fwoosh
SWRP Writer
Joined
Mar 1, 2008
Messages
4,057
Reaction score
0
You know, I'd actually feel for you if you weren't such a whiny bitch, Tsar.

You know, I've never given you cause for this treatment. You've been after me for a while, and I'm tired of it.

Personally, Tsar, I suggest leaving it at be because it's obvious complaining isn't working. Instead, you should just attend the Senate review committee and ICly defend your stance there. You'd probably have a better chance there than OOCly bickering here.

Well, up until now, I didn't know there was a senate hearing. I could never get that confirmed.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Dmitri

Admin Emeritus
SWRP Writer
Joined
Nov 10, 2010
Messages
14,311
Reaction score
1,878
I thought Adena said a while back that there was going to be one.
 

Green Ranger

DRAGONZORD!
Administrator
SWRP Supporter
Joined
Dec 6, 2005
Messages
21,028
Reaction score
2,804
You know, I've never given you cause for this treatment. You've been after me for a while, and I'm tired of it.

I'm not after you, whatever you might think. I just find your incessant need to whine about every little damn thing incredibly annoying.

I only really had to start dealing with you once we got to Ando, and from then onwards it has been nothing but bitching and moaning and tears. Not that you would ever believe that because everyone is so clearly out to get you and make your life miserable.

This is another thread you've made all about you when it's about faciton-spanning issues, so, if you want to continue to whine about how hard you've got things, make the appropriate thread for it.
 

Empress

STAFF EMERITUS
SWRP Writer
Joined
Nov 27, 2005
Messages
17,704
Reaction score
75
" supreme commander" was cut completely for a Cabinet " read that as office positions and -some- if not limited field work at best.

this streamlines communication easier.

High admirals/ High generals then Admirals/generals would be the next steps lower and in effect a high admiral is more or less the same as the supreme commanders were they just have someone above them before the Chancellor following out stellar performances in the " first" Hutt war.


this is called reform, it's not out to " get " anyone. high command will always have access to war rooms and planning and all of that.


JUST NOT TILL AFTER THE JUMP and EVERYTHING is done being reorganized.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Tsar Fire

Fwoosh
SWRP Writer
Joined
Mar 1, 2008
Messages
4,057
Reaction score
0
I thought Adena said a while back that there was going to be one.

Well... there hasn't been, and a time-skip is coming up fast, and some of us would like to write new profiles for characters.

I know things are gonna be slow for a while, but I never got concrete word on how anything was going to happen, what anyone's position (besides Boli and Will, and Adena) was going to be after the jump. (Though Tarus was re-confirmed recently, now under Will though).

I'd just like to know what is going on. I repeat,

TBH: What Adara would like is to be stuck in a combined arms Ground:Space force of elite shock-troops, and then aimed at things. She doesn't have sweeping strategic skill (I don't have time IRL to study all the maps. I Just CANT) but she is good at handling actual battlefields and planning/refining ops, once she has targets. With minimal oversight, she could lead a force and do substantial damage, she just needs to not get thrown into an Ando Primo situation.

Adena can tell me what rank/position/branch that means.
 

Empress

STAFF EMERITUS
SWRP Writer
Joined
Nov 27, 2005
Messages
17,704
Reaction score
75
I have a pdf of all the maps I threw together, just something there to pull up and use on the fly no need to memorize them completely

and I need to poke santoro too as we are still working on the official galaxy/territory map that will be put in a place for everyone to see that will be updated as things change
 

Tsar Fire

Fwoosh
SWRP Writer
Joined
Mar 1, 2008
Messages
4,057
Reaction score
0
I have a pdf of all the maps I threw together, just something there to pull up and use on the fly no need to memorize them completely

and I need to poke santoro too as we are still working on the official galaxy/territory map that will be put in a place for everyone to see that will be updated as things change

That will be good for all involved. Well, if there is gonna be an IC sorting things out, then lets do it IC. If it is OOC, then lets do it OOC.

I just want to know how things are going to be handled so that I can prepare my character accordingly. I'm tired of floating in RP limbo.:CIsee
 

Empress

STAFF EMERITUS
SWRP Writer
Joined
Nov 27, 2005
Messages
17,704
Reaction score
75
trust me I feel the same to be honest, what IC life I do have is all built right now around the chancellor and still getting things IC done just to get the office established, the s-13 debriefing.... when others catch up that may go through.

other than that Im still in a ooc hurry up and wait along with juggling things >.<


Im going to be glad when the skip is pushed through and things are done, for everyones sake.
 

Dmitri

Admin Emeritus
SWRP Writer
Joined
Nov 10, 2010
Messages
14,311
Reaction score
1,878
So when will the final list of promotions and ranks be posted?
 

Empress

STAFF EMERITUS
SWRP Writer
Joined
Nov 27, 2005
Messages
17,704
Reaction score
75
next week Im thinking, as again Im in homestretch of home buying when it's the most annoying I'm going to be asking " now" for boli, will, and tarus to give me rundowns on what they think etc and I'll follow up with my own over the weekend.
 
Top