The Force Awakens - Thoughts and Reactions (SPOILERS WITHIN)

Dahar Kern

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I enjoyed this film because it understands that it is an adventure first and foremost. We don't need all the answers to what happened in the interim period, those will come with time and new movies. They don't need to explain where everybody is, or what there doing... did the first Movie do that? of course not, the gaps will be filled over time. Those that aren't will be explained by a new and growing EU.

The characters were golden, all of them feel wonderfully inspired of old tropes and new paradigm's. Even the villains of this movie feel more realistic, more believable. They have emotions, they get angry, they get confused, they get scared. Also there is humor in this that feels natural, unforced, effortless. The plot is not old and stale as some have alleged, it is a time honored tale.... But done in a way that is new and revitalized.

This trilogy is going to be a fun ride... I can't wait to see what they have in store.

For those who didn't like it... were you looking for perfection? 'Cause that ain't Star Wars... all Star Wars movies are flawed, the point is to see past the flaws for the gems underneath, the subtext, the history, the fun... all of that is here.

Sorry but Abram's did everything he needed to do and then some. If you didn't enjoy this... I have a hard time believing any Star Wars movie produced in this current climate and time would please you.
 
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Thematically, it's definitely closer to Star Wars because it is a clone of A New Hope. I don't disagree with you at all there and I think it's a positive move, because the feel of old Star Wars was infinitely better than the prequels and felt like a real, genuinely good space opera setting for a sci fi franchise. I'm just talking about aesthetically, because I personally thought it was ridiculous that there was no reference to a planet that previously existed in Star Wars and practically no reference to species that existed in Star Wars, for the most part.

I personally felt like this was a bad move because it's just kind of a huge middle finger to the work of countless people on the EU. I didn't expect stories to be respected or all the same characters to show up, but I did expect them to actually look like they were basing the movie in the same universe. The way Hollywood works is no mystery, I realize that they're looking for maximum profit, but it just felt like an unnecessary move.

but like I said in my review, I'm just playing doomsayer because I really was not impressed by the movie. The rest of the trilogy might be a big improvement: the first six were all very different movies, and I expect the same from these three. And I'm not trying to convince anyone to agree with me about TFA sucking, I'm just telling people that I personally thought it did. :p

To be honest, if anything then throwing in unnecessary Legends elements would be pandering more than what they wound up doing. I'm glad they tossed the book out and let the design/costume/puppet studios go absolutely nuts, because, for me at least, it made the galaxy feel bigger, broader and more diverse. And it's not like it's out of left field, either - the PRequels introduced a hell of a lot of new alien species as simply background characters and props. For me, it helps broaden the galaxy and make it feel more like...well, a galaxy of diverse, interesting, strange and bizarre personalities, people and species.

So it's a matter of perspective, I suppose. You clearly disagree, and that's fine since it's a pretty subjective thing we're talking about here, but I think making locations like Jakku in particular so diverse and new really helped establish it as a planet with a personality of its own, rather than the Tatooine ripoff we were all sort of worried it would be.
 

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Well for me it did make the universe feel a bit smaller, and just like Jake said, the lack of references or appearances of old planets and species contributed to that. But that's only one of my few issues.
 

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What I'm getting here is:

"I didn't expect them to base the stories off of the Expanded Universe but I really feel like this movie was disrespectful because they didn't base it off of the expanded universe."

It was similar enough to the EU to nod at it, but different enough that this is a new story, and we're not cloning previous stories.

You've managed to reduce my opinion to a point I didn't make and insinuate that people who disagree with you are bitching in your last two posts. I didn't expect them to base the stories off of the EU, but I did expect the background to feel like a Star Wars movie. In my opinion, it didn't.

To be honest, if anything then throwing in unnecessary Legends elements would be pandering more than what they wound up doing. I'm glad they tossed the book out and let the design/costume/puppet studios go absolutely nuts, because, for me at least, it made the galaxy feel bigger, broader and more diverse. And it's not like it's out of left field, either - the PRequels introduced a hell of a lot of new alien species as simply background characters and props. For me, it helps broaden the galaxy and make it feel more like...well, a galaxy of diverse, interesting, strange and bizarre personalities, people and species.

So it's a matter of perspective, I suppose. You clearly disagree, and that's fine since it's a pretty subjective thing we're talking about here, but I think making locations like Jakku in particular so diverse and new really helped establish it as a planet with a personality of its own, rather than the Tatooine ripoff we were all sort of worried it would be.

Yeah, I can tell that we definitely just had different interpretations of what we saw. I thought Jakku did seem like a Tatooine ripoff. And you're right, the prequels introduced a ton of background character species and props. I personally didn't like the direction they took it this time though. Star Wars was a different animal before the prequels and after them. Personally I think JJ Abrams may have taken it a little too close to the other sci-fi universes he's written for, Star Trek and Firefly, and that's fine. Just not my cup of tea.
 

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On another note, from an admin perspective I'm trying to figure out how the fuck to handle the fact that

Force Useers can freeze not just people, but blaster bolts in mid-air now and just walk around like it's nbd >.<
 

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Lol, while I was watching the movie I actually thought "What are they going to do on SWRP to balance this shit."
 

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Lol, while I was watching the movie I actually thought "What are they going to do on SWRP to balance this shit."

The short answer? I have no fucking idea.
 

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So for the past like 5 years we have been RPing an alternate universe :)
 

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I wonder if people are gonna put up references to the First Order in their threads.
 

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On another note, from an admin perspective I'm trying to figure out how the **** to handle the fact that

Force Useers can freeze not just people, but blaster bolts in mid-air now and just walk around like it's nbd >.<
I nearly fell on the floor in shock when this happened....
To me that was a very interesting power on display, but I don't think that it means he's invulnerable, it's just a flashy way of deflecting a bolt. Keep in mind that we’ve only ever seen four Sith on screen, and all of them were in combat situations, or staff meetings. The dark is a path to many techniques... some would consider unnatural. Pulling thoughts and images may be one of those skills.

Remember also that Vader never reached his full potential due to his injuries, and Palpatine was constantly looking for a better replacement...

The skills used by Kylo may simply be things we haven’t seen, because they were hidden by the jedi as being to dangerous or too ‘dark’.

Bottom line Kylo has access to some nice tricks, but raw focused power? I think Snoak is keeping him in the dark.
 

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On another note, from an admin perspective I'm trying to figure out how the **** to handle the fact that

Force Useers can freeze not just people, but blaster bolts in mid-air now and just walk around like it's nbd >.<

I did think this. Going to be fun.

Also just back to I know someone said they didn't understand Kylo Ren's fall. I just watched this.

 

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I do have to agree with you on this, @Prudence.

Phasma basically got the Boba Fett treatment, but worse. I don't think she ever fought or fired her gun. And I really, really hope she survived and we atleast see a bit more of her.

I think Gwendoline Christie and Lucasfilm confirmed her reprisal in 8.
 

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There is a lot we don't yet know... but we can begin to guess...
He may have been lied to about who his grandfather was... twice.

-Luke, Leia and Han never told him about Vader.

-Snoak tells him, but tells him that Luke killed him, to prevent him from bringing order to the galaxy.

Ben Solo becomes disillusioned when Luke can’t or won’t tell him the truth. Becomes corrupted, and is told that the jedi are a pervision of the true nature of the force.<
 

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ALSO @Clayton IS GOING TO HAVE FUN WITH THE FACT THAT

NOW WE CAN JUMP TO HYPERSPACE WITHIN A HANGAR, AND DROP OUT IN ATMO LIKE IT'S NBD?! No mass shadow cares, just ya know, jump whenever you damn well feel like it and revert whenever you feel like it.

I'm gonna love to see some admin explanation for the new tech-physics.
 

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I'm just looking forward to how the FS players are going to brutally abuse the "Freeze Blaster" power next TL.
 

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Nah, there's way to nerf everything without doing away with it entirely.
 
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