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Hola.

Let's get this show on the road.

Second I've spoken to Ols, we can break stuff.

Rescuing Lavi and Niner needs to be high on our list of priorities, but then what?

I say we hit a planet. Kuat, or somewhere big.

No plans are set in stone, Niner and Lavi are penned in though. Really, let's brainstorm.
 

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I assume we still have no idea where Niner and Lavi's characters are being held correct?
 

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I assume we still have no idea where Niner and Lavi's characters are being held correct?

Ols said they were being held where I was when I was a captive, though he told us that after I was rescued.
 

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Ols said they were being held where I was when I was a captive, though he told us that after I was rescued.

And where exactly were you being held?
 

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Ord Vaug I believe.
 

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I would recommend a black ops mission to Ord Vaug to free our captives there. Get in without detection, possibility by masquerading as both the crew and the prisoners of an incoming freighter that's there to transport in more POWs. The black ops team should cut the prison's transmission systems, secure the the prison itself, free our boys, and get out. At least one capital ship should be positioned just outside the system to provide support in the event things become to much for the black ops team to handle on their own or should the Republic receive word of what's happening.

As for your requested "big operation" Storm. I have some thoughts about how to win this war.

As we all are aware. This war is based in the Core Worlds, so it must be fought in the Core Worlds, but while Coruscant may be the heart of the of the Republic and the Galaxy. Our capture of it early in the war did not stop the Republic from using it's superior military force from pushing us back. Coruscant is a symbol, an important symbol yes, but defeating the Republic doesn't mean we must take Her capital.

I think we should use a plan based off one PM from my friend Fleche De Blaireau that I've modified slightly to match with the era. It goes as thus:



Launch a black ops operation at Commenor, and attempt to seize control of the shipyards and ships within. The Republic's Navy is larger than ours, so we must do what we can to increase the amount of capital ships we have at our command. Should capture prove impossible the destruction of the shipyards and/or ships will be the new objective. We must deny the Republic the ability to expand and strengthen its Navy.


An attack on Aargau with the aim of capturing the planet and it's important assets (it's a major bank world). We'll leave a small garrison, we can't keep our resources tried down guarding worlds, let the Republic do that. Follow up with an attack on Ralltiir, (which is another major banking planet) as Ralltiir also maintains strategic importance.



We blockade Kuat. Yes blockade. We do not attack Kuat off the bat, but we position our ships inside the system to prevent anything from coming or going. This is be difficult as the Republic do everything they can to attempt a breakthrough to regain access to their shipyards, but that's what I'm counting on. As the big fight wages in the outer part of the system. We can move a smaller fleet in to damage the shipyards.


We'll let the Republic hold Coruscant, and make our stand in the rest of the Core. Holding Kuat and Ralltiir will allow us to cut off Coruscant from galactic trade, and by holding the Bank Worlds and freezing the assets we can isolate Coruscant (and the Republic) economically depriving it of trade and business.

Ships that we capture from Commenor will simply strengthen our hold on the area.

It's all a rough idea, flexible to change. We can go in the order I listed it or not. It doesn't matter. The operations will become more detailed when we choose. Input, suggestions, thoughts, and comments please.
 

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I thought the same idea.

We need ships if we're to have a chance. Capturing Commenor would be a good step, but it'd be hard as hell, especially for a black ops team.

Six men or so, though, not too big a sacrifice is things go to shit. I'm willing to risk it.

If that fails, we can always take some weak world and use it as a shipyard.

As for blockading Kuat, that just wouldn't work. We don't have anywhere near the military might at the moment. The Republic would have very, very, very little effort needed to bust us out the sky.

What I think we should do instead is one of two things.

One: Either a terrorist attack, one of which would also be sent to Corellia. This would cripple the shipyards.

Two: Hit and run attack while the Republic still thinks we're weak. Use the element of surprise to get our ships in, render Kuat almost useless, if not useless, and then go again.

Thoughts?
 

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I'm iffy on the black ops thing. Ols would have to be OK with the plan, 'else he could just refuse and detect what's going on before the thing really even got underway.
 

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I'm iffy on the black ops thing. Ols would have to be OK with the plan, 'else he could just refuse and detect what's going on before the thing really even got underway.

Ols is an agreeable guy, but you're right; it does rest on him.

And there's still the limits of IC knowledge. Ols is a good RPer, and he recognises that he's got to go by what his character knows IC.

I can't see there being much trouble, but if there is a major problem we can always employ option two. Or just scrap the black ops idea altogether?
 

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Were I Ols and didn't want my prisoners being rescued, it would be incredibly easy to just have the warden or whoever is in charge of the facility just check the list for incoming freighters, and if there wasn't supposed to be one scheduled, become either incredibly suspicious, or go all Admiral Ackbar, "IT'S A TRAP!"
 

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Were I Ols and didn't want my prisoners being rescued, it would be incredibly easy to just have the warden or whoever is in charge of the facility just check the list for incoming freighters, and if there wasn't supposed to be one scheduled, become either incredibly suspicious, or go all Admiral Ackbar, "IT'S A TRAP!"

He could have done exactly the same with Mulluns.

And yeah, it would be easy. And if Ols wants to do that, it's his call and we might have to work around it.

Do you have an idea, Kurt? So far we've only got the one.

We could always storm it like with Mulluns.
 

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I thought the same idea.

We need ships if we're to have a chance. Capturing Commenor would be a good step, but it'd be hard as hell, especially for a black ops team.

Six men or so, though, not too big a sacrifice is things go to shit. I'm willing to risk it.

Six men maybe enough to seize a single ship, but an entire shipyard? Impossible. They'll never take, let alone hold, the shipyards. Destroying them would be easier than capturing them of course. Should you want to go in that direction of terror strikes.


If that fails, we can always take some weak world and use it as a shipyard.

Does the Alsakan Union have the resources to build a shipyard?

As for blockading Kuat, that just wouldn't work. We don't have anywhere near the military might at the moment. The Republic would have very, very, very little effort needed to bust us out the sky.

I know that. Reread the post: This is be difficult as the Republic do everything they can to attempt a breakthrough to regain access to their shipyards, but that's what I'm counting on. As the big fight wages in the outer part of the system. We can move a smaller fleet in to damage the shipyards.

We can't stand up to the Republic in a straight fight, but the propose of a blockade of Kuat is to draw the Republic forces into a fight on the edge of the system so they can't defend against lightning strike aimed at Kuat's shipyards. The battle has to be short.


What I think we should do instead is one of two things.

One: Either a terrorist attack, one of which would also be sent to Corellia. This would cripple the shipyards.

Two: Hit and run attack while the Republic still thinks we're weak. Use the element of surprise to get our ships in, render Kuat almost useless, if not useless, and then go again.


Thoughts?

A terror strike on Corellia would be similar to one Commenor yes?

Attacking Kuat will be difficult. I am sure it is one of the most guarded planets because of it's value. While I don't see anything wrong with a hit-n-run assault. I think I know how to make sure we need to hit Kuat once to put it's shipyards out of action. During our raid on it we have one or more capital ships manned with a skeleton crew move to ram the shipyards. Have the crews overload the ship's reactor, steer it toward the shipyards, they escape in shuttles, and the ships blow up as hit the shipyards.
 

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Six men maybe enough to seize a single ship, but an entire shipyard? Impossible. They'll never take, let alone hold, the shipyards. Destroying them would be easier than capturing them of course. Should you want to go in that direction of terror strikes.

When I said "destroy it", I meant with fleets. =P

Does the Alsakan Union have the resources to build a shipyard?

Yes. Just not to the magnitude of, say, Kuat.

I know that. Reread the post: This is be difficult as the Republic do everything they can to attempt a breakthrough to regain access to their shipyards, but that's what I'm counting on. As the big fight wages in the outer part of the system. We can move a smaller fleet in to damage the shipyards.

I still don't think it'd be feasible. It'd tie up a large chunk of our fleet too.

We can't stand up to the Republic in a straight fight, but the propose of a blockade of Kuat is to draw the Republic forces into a fight on the edge of the system so they can't defend against lightning strike aimed at Kuat's shipyards. The battle has to be short.

You might be on to something there.

If I talk to Ols and see what defences the shipyards have, they may have a load of heavy guns that could really help us. If we were to move in, stun them or something, quickly blockade and send in teams to take over the shipyard, then by the time the Republic got anywhere near we'd have the station taken and we'd be able to hold it. Therefore the blockade wouldn't be a blockade, merely a protectional measure for the purposes of the battle.

We'd then drive the Republic off and have ourself a shipyard.

Ideas?

A terror strike on Corellia would be similar to one Commenor yes?

Attacking Kuat will be difficult. I am sure it is one of the most guarded planets because of it's value. While I don't see anything wrong with a hit-n-run assault. I think I know how to make sure we need to hit Kuat once to put it's shipyards out of action. During our raid on it we have one or more capital ships manned with a skeleton crew move to ram the shipyards. Have the crews overload the ship's reactor, steer it toward the shipyards, they escape in shuttles, and the ships blow up as hit the shipyards.

We could never take Corellia without a major assault.

This was just similar to blowing up the Senate building, or something(s) else important.
 

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Do you have an idea, Kurt? So far we've only got the one.
Who do you think you're talking to? :CHappy:

I have to check, but I may still have a spy in the Republic. If so, it could make things extremely easy for us.
 

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When I said "destroy it", I meant with fleets. =P

Things can be destroyed with more than just warships.


Yes. Just not to the magnitude of, say, Kuat.

Good. We should begin building shipyards on every world that is under our control.

I still don't think it'd be feasible. It'd tie up a large chunk of our fleet too.

As you say Fleet Admiral.

You might be on to something there.

If I talk to Ols and see what defences the shipyards have, they may have a load of heavy guns that could really help us. If we were to move in, stun them or something, quickly blockade and send in teams to take over the shipyard, then by the time the Republic got anywhere near we'd have the station taken and we'd be able to hold it. Therefore the blockade wouldn't be a blockade, merely a protectional measure for the purposes of the battle.

We'd then drive the Republic off and have ourself a shipyard.

Ideas?

Capture the defenses around Kuat and use them to assist us in driving back the Republic counter-attack? It is possible, but we will need to know exactly what the defenses in place at Kuat are before carrying out that type of mission.

We could never take Corellia without a major assault.

This was just similar to blowing up the Senate building, or something(s) else important.

That's what I ment. A mission to cripple important parts of the planet.
 

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Just remember, guys, our fleet sucks balls compared to the Republic's, so we have to attack smart, not hard.
 

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Just remember, guys, our fleet sucks balls compared to the Republic's, so we have to attack smart, not hard.

Do we have any hard numbers on the amount of ships we have and how many the Republic has?
 

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Check around the boards, I'm not sure. There used to be. If there isn't, we'll need to have a chat with Ols and figure it out.
 
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