AS-22 Venom

[Proleptic]

AS-22 Venom​

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Type — Acid Grenade

Weight — .6 kg

Intent — Area of effect damage to both armor and exposed flesh. The weapons is a quiet and longer-lasting alternative to grenades. The killing power is lower, but the damage over time that it does is very beneficial. The armor damage is major focus of it, but the ability to act as a smoke grenade of sorts is a bonus. It works well as a means to close an area off for a time as well, and is great for flushing out opponents.

Affiliation — Jemma Rhi'mans

Ownership — Anyone who wants one

Description — After activation, the grenades will have a standard detonation time of five seconds (this can be adjusted to be longer) before detonating and releasing a cloud of gaseous acid. The cloud of acid is a hot pink color, and allows it to function similarly to a smoke grenade. The cloud takes a full three seconds to reach its maximum range. The cloud will cover a 10 meter range (5 meter radius extending outwards with the grenade as the epicenter), and will weaken armors for the duration of the time that they are exposed to it. Armor will take the equivalent of one medium blaster shot of damage for every five seconds (keep in mind that the time required to get out of the cloud will make armor damage very low, unless the area is confined and not easily escaped) in the cloud, though exposed flesh will only suffer minor irritation, and no prolonged damage once outside of the cloud. If the eyes are exposed they will cause some watering of the eyes, but no real damage will be taken. Inhaling will cause slight dizziness (realistically, unless in a confined space, someone would be able to get out of the gas before inhaling this much). Standard helmet filtration systems will block internal effects.

The gas cloud will remain for 15 seconds before being essentially dormant. Wind speeds of 8 kmh will blow the cloud away, making it essentially ineffective at or above that wind speed. Below 4 kmh is where it is still usable as more than shoddy cover. This means that it is essentially ineffective unless the wind is in perfect condition, which is to say practically nonexistent. The cloud is released with approximately the same pressure and sound of a smoke grenade.


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Grenade Diameter — 7.8 cm
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Circular with matte gray color.
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Lacks killing or explosive power of normal grenades; It is possible to get out of range of the grenade. It does no damage to a person as well.
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[Darasuum]

10 meters? That's pretty big even for diameter. If it's radius it's way too big an area. What happens if someone breathes it in? Wouldn't that kill them/life long damage/injury? This looks basically on par with a mustard gas grenade.

 

[Proleptic]

10 meters? That's pretty big even for diameter. If it's radius it's way too big an area. What happens if someone breathes it in? Wouldn't that kill them/life long damage/injury? This looks basically on par with a mustard gas grenade.

10 meters is thermal range so I just started there. I can reduce that without issue.

As far as breathing it in, it would be similar to mustard gas I suppose, but I see no reason why the damage couldn't be healed.

I am operating the breathing part on the fact that it is unlikely that anyone will breathe in a gas cloud, and if they get a breath in then they will most likely make sure not to breathe in more. It is also pretty easy to get out of the cloud, even if it is 30 feet, and especially if I reduce it.

 

[Darasuum]

Didn't realize that was thermal range, never mind. Guess it's standard.

Say there's no wind or anything. How lobg does the acid cloud stay there before it becomes non toxic?

 

[Proleptic]

Didn't realize that was thermal range, never mind. Guess it's standard.

Say there's no wind or anything. How lobg does the acid cloud stay there before it becomes non toxic?

Oh, not too long. I'd be happy to determine that with input from others. I'm not sure myself. I'll look up standard acid/smoke grenades. I'll reduce it if it is too long.

 

[Darasuum]

Yeah that's important because otherwise it could be assumed it would indefinitly cut through hull plating, a wall, etc. does it freeze in a place like hoth or does it become ineffecient based on an assortment of environmental factors? Not saying that has to be answered in detail for every situation but keep in mind that a strong wind would move it away from target area (though that could be an asset)

 

[Proleptic]

I am gonna try not to get complicated with that, because it would really have a lot to do with surface area and what is being affected.

Let's just say that the maximum duration is 15 seconds? Does that sound reasonable? That gives it a lot of power in an enclosed area, but not too much, while giving it minimal power in an open space. Suggestions?

 

[Darasuum]

yeah sounds good to me. gives a reasonable amount of area denial too, deterring anyone from trying to run through it.

 

[Shalken]

Another question, because it is a gas grenade, would it be more of a dense kind? i.e. would it stay close to the ground like a mist, or would it rise quickly into the air?

Just as an example, there is another grenade that utilizes gas that has a significantly smaller range (the SCKO). Though I'm not overtly saying that this one needs to be quite as short of a range, it's something you might want to keep in mind, because 32 feet is an extremely large radius and requires a huge amount of distance to be covered to escape it. Though this wouldn't exactly be difficult in an open area by a Force user, a non-FS in an enclosed area would basically be screwed, and you might even risk harming yourself as well, depending on how long the grenade stays until it dissipates.

 

[Proleptic]

Another question, because it is a gas grenade, would it be more of a dense kind? i.e. would it stay close to the ground like a mist, or would it rise quickly into the air?

Just as an example, there is another grenade that utilizes gas that has a significantly smaller range (the SCKO). Though I'm not overtly saying that this one needs to be quite as short of a range, it's something you might want to keep in mind, because 32 feet is an extremely large radius and requires a huge amount of distance to be covered to escape it. Though this wouldn't exactly be difficult in an open area by a Force user, a non-FS in an enclosed area would basically be screwed, and you might even risk harming yourself as well, depending on how long the grenade stays until it dissipates.

I was thinking it would be reasonably dense yeah. If necessary I really can decrease the range. But consider the fact that while 30 feet is a lot to cover, you wouldn't have to do that unless in a space that was perfectly fit to the gas cloud. You would have to cross a maximum of 15 feet at any given time to escape, as that would be the radius, and if you were anywhere other than the radius you could get out in a shorter distance.

And yeah it is partially designed so that if you're in a small enough space you are in trouble, because the same can be said for a thermal. If you're in a room that is small enough for the entirety of the room to be encompassed by the blast, you're in trouble.

That being said, it is reasonably likely that I'll change the range some, as that is teo comments on it thus far.

 

[Shalken]

I was thinking it would be reasonably dense yeah. If necessary I really can decrease the range. But consider the fact that while 30 feet is a lot to cover, you wouldn't have to do that unless in a space that was perfectly fit to the gas cloud. You would have to cross a maximum of 15 feet at any given time to escape, as that would be the radius, and if you were anywhere other than the radius you could get out in a shorter distance.

And yeah it is partially designed so that if you're in a small enough space you are in trouble, because the same can be said for a thermal. If you're in a room that is small enough for the entirety of the room to be encompassed by the blast, you're in trouble.

That being said, it is reasonably likely that I'll change the range some, as that is teo comments on it thus far.

Good points. Just one thing though, a radius is from the center of a circle to the outer edge, whereas a diameter is from one edge to the other. So if a grenade has a radius of 32 meters, then its diameter would be 64 meters - if the grenade landed directly on someone, they would have to run 32 meters in every direction to escape it.

 

[Proleptic]

Good points. Just one thing though, a radius is from the center of a circle to the outer edge, whereas a diameter is from one edge to the other. So if a grenade has a radius of 32 meters, then its diameter would be 64 meters - if the grenade landed directly on someone, they would have to run 32 meters in every direction to escape it.

Oh, yes. That was a mistake in my typing. Hah. Thanks! I do know this x)

 

[Darasuum]

Good points. Just one thing though, a radius is from the center of a circle to the outer edge, whereas a diameter is from one edge to the other. So if a grenade has a radius of 32 meters, then its diameter would be 64 meters - if the grenade landed directly on someone, they would have to run 32 meters in every direction to escape it.

that's what i was trying to clarify earlier.

 

[Proleptic]

Wait....no I said it right. I said that 15 feet is the max because that is the radius x)

@Shalken

 

[Shalken]

Wait....no I said it right. I said that 15 feet is the max because that is the radius x)

@Shalken

Ooh, I misread the inital post. I saw "10 meter area" and thought "10 meter radius". My bad.

 

[Proleptic]

Ooooooh. I see how this could be confusing. I am thinking it creates a blast that is 30 feet, but if I say that it's range is 30 feet that makes it seem like it is from the point the grenade hits. I will edit the thing to reflect this.

And here I was wondering why on earth you both thought it was 30 feet in every direction. That would be crazy! Hah!

 

[Darasuum]

I'vemade sure to use meteric system as primary measurment and then translate in parentheses for convenience.

 

[Proleptic]

I'vemade sure to use meteric system as primary measurment and then translate in parentheses for convenience.

I use metric always as well, I only have been using US standard in chatting with you all. I probably should translate to US in the actual write-up, but I think it is important that people know metric so I just leave it there x) heh.

 

[Clayton]

Oh boy, chemical weapons have appeared...I highly doubt this would be legal by any definition in Republic space, and maybe not even Sith space. How quickly does the gas fill the area of effect? You should also flesh out the intent more if you want me to approve a chemical weapon this nasty.

 

[Proleptic]

Oh boy, chemical weapons have appeared...I highly doubt this would be legal by any definition in Republic space, and maybe not even Sith space. How quickly does the gas fill the area of effect? You should also flesh out the intent more if you want me to approve a chemical weapon this nasty.

Good to know! I will flesh that all out very soon, prolly tonight :) thanks!