CQC Training.

[Michael Scott]

Can alliance soldiers go to the NJO and get sword training since we are facing Sith and soldiers?

 

[Xyrael]

Sword-play is quite different from Jedi lightsaber play. Lightsabers require some force talent to use properly, their blade has no weight, and they can cut from any direction - not to mention that, lacking force talent, you won't be as fast as a Sith regardless. Instead, I'd suggest sparring with a partner, and using a sword made from cortosis, and figuring out intelligent ways to not let the Sith get that close to you.

 

[Demiurge]

The three styles and seven forms were all based on physical blade-to-blade combat. While the nature of the lightsaber forms were designed for lightsaber combat, they are not technically limited to only lightsabers.

The seven lightsaber forms were not restricted to lightsabers, for example, and could be applied to anything from typical melee weapons to unarmed combat. Reason being, it's more than moves and strikes, it's a mindset and philosophy.

The three NJO forms are paced-based, and could be applied to any style of lightsaber combat. Same could effectively be said for swords as well. Recall, the ancient Jedi and Sith (many Sith even preferred swords throughout the ages) used swords for a long, long time. So in essence, yes, you technically could learn saber-styled combat.

But, that being said, it'd be ineffective, especially against Jedi or Sith, because they are designed for Force sensitives in mind. Form V: Shien/Djem So involves summoning Force-enhanced strength, for instance, and Form III: Ataru calls upon physically impossible Force-granted acrobatics. My advice; just learn from the military.

 

[Gambler]

There will be something put into place soon concerning this very issue. The Jedi and Alliance will be further integrated and one of the terms is for the Jedi to help train Alliance soldiers to defend against the Sith.

 

[Michael Scott]

ok yeah I was thinking soldiers shouldn't be shooting at a sith with a lightsaber. Almost like shooting at a tank with the standard 5.56.

 

[Dread]

Unless their using ballistic ammo.

 

[Xyrael]

Indeed, however the Galactic Alliance technology thread does not have slug weapons included as standard technology. A slight disadvantage in some cases, perhaps, but I've never seen a Jedi/Sith deflect a very high powered laser before in canon, so I imagine high powered, semi-auto blasters will suffice? Or, if your rate of fire is higher than they can deflect, that works too heh.

 

[Demiurge]

The only real advantage of slugs is that they can't be deflected back at you - which is a very real danger with blasters. But other than that, they are inferior in every way. There's a reason they were considered to be an extinct weapon.

 

[Dread]

The only real advantage of slugs is that they can't be deflected back at you - which is a very real danger with blasters. But other than that, they are inferior in every way. There's a reason they were considered to be an extinct weapon.

Yeah.

 

[Deloi]

What about standard Teras Kasi Training? You know that relic made for a video game?

 

[Demiurge]

Teräs Käsi isn't a Jedi martial art - Jedi have their own undefined martial art. Teräs Käsi is a martial art created by an organization called the Followers of Palawa, and they pretty much hate Jedi, although few Jedi throughout history have learned it nonetheless.

That said, some soldiers may learn it, but it is extremely unlikely the Jedi would be teaching it.

 

[Deloi]

Oh well I did not mean the Jedi, but then again who would know it in this day and age?

 

[Xyrael]

Personally, I'd probably rather take a PDW blaster for CQ combat than a sword. If the Sith is too busy blocking blaster bolts from a high rate-of-fire weapon, he doesn't have time to 1. figure out the geometry required to deflect it back and kill me and 2. hit me with the lightsaber.

That said, 60 round clip isn't much when you're shooting 950 rounds a minute.

I'd probably be dead before I could holster the weapon and draw the sword. But that's hypothetical. I haven't even RP'd here yet! So I guess I'll see.

 

[Michael Scott]

Personally, I'd probably rather take a PDW blaster for CQ combat than a sword. If the Sith is too busy blocking blaster bolts from a high rate-of-fire weapon, he doesn't have time to 1. figure out the geometry required to deflect it back and kill me and 2. hit me with the lightsaber.

That said, 60 round clip isn't much when you're shooting 950 rounds a minute.

I'd probably be dead before I could holster the weapon and draw the sword. But that's hypothetical. I haven't even RP'd here yet! So I guess I'll see.

To point this out, first of all, how many droids and clones have the jedi killed without even taking a hit? As we see of RoTS it would take an entire company to kill a jedi (Ki Adi seen and Jedi Temple scene) with their guards down. The only way to actually kill a jedi would to have an cannon with a heavy ROF shooting directly at them and flank them from behind. Most footsoldiers don't carry a vulcan cannon and their is only 1 SAWman in a modern infantry squad. I'd rather take my chances to spar with a sith than to rely on a blaster because at least I'd give the jedi/sith a run for their money and time for my squad to get away or set up a hasty ambush. but hey, that's just my father's Army Ranger's genes speaking to me.

P.S. you wouldn't holster your blaster, you'd throw it away and worry about it later.

This is how I think a star wars squad should be set-up:

Squad Leader
Rifleman
Rifleman
CQC
Fireteam Leader
Rifleman
Radioman
Designated Rifleman
Fireteam Leader
SAW
Medic
Grenadier

 

[Xyrael]

No need to bring your father into this like a certificate of experience. I, too, have had family in the military, as far back as the civil war every male on my fathers side of the family has been in the military - except for me (combobreaker!) Doesn't take away from the fact that a modern assault rifle such as the AK-47 can fire at rates around 10 bullets a second (3 seconds to unload a clip of 30 rounds). A Jedi would have difficulty blocking that, especially from multiple vectors.

Simply put: the movies depict stormtroopers and droids as firing at slow rates of fire because otherwise it would diminish the Jedi's apparent power in films. It's a common tactic used in films: underpower the mooks to make the heroes look heroic.

 

[Deloi]

No need to bring your father into this like a certificate of experience. I, too, have had family in the military, as far back as the civil war every male on my fathers side of the family has been in the military - except for me (combobreaker!) Doesn't take away from the fact that a modern assault rifle such as the AK-47 can fire at rates around 10 bullets a second (3 seconds to unload a clip of 30 rounds). A Jedi would have difficulty blocking that, especially from multiple vectors.

Simply put: the movies depict stormtroopers and droids as firing at slow rates of fire because otherwise it would diminish the Jedi's apparent power in films. It's a common tactic used in films: underpower the mooks to make the heroes look heroic.

Almost correct. Its actually so that the protagonist's power is not diminished. Any other Jedi is doing it through actual skill. However there is actually a really good reason why those blasters don't fire at even a fifth the speed of a bullet. I just can't remember it.

 

[Xyrael]

Probably the fact that the movie would be nothing but a big red blur during fight scenes. :bitchez

 

[Deloi]

Probably the fact that the movie would be nothing but a big red blur during fight scenes. :bitchez

That and the subsequent reason made in universe for them shooting so slow.

 

[Michael Scott]

No need to bring your father into this like a certificate of experience. I, too, have had family in the military, as far back as the civil war every male on my fathers side of the family has been in the military - except for me (combobreaker!) Doesn't take away from the fact that a modern assault rifle such as the AK-47 can fire at rates around 10 bullets a second (3 seconds to unload a clip of 30 rounds). A Jedi would have difficulty blocking that, especially from multiple vectors.

Simply put: the movies depict stormtroopers and droids as firing at slow rates of fire because otherwise it would diminish the Jedi's apparent power in films. It's a common tactic used in films: underpower the mooks to make the heroes look heroic.

[ST]Ok look I know it was wrong about blah blah blah [/ST]I'm not in the military and this isn't a pissing contest.
[ST]1. 10 rounds per second is accurate information, but add the recoil, the elements and the skill of the user:
- the rifle would jam as two or three ammunition clips
- the recoil would reduce the amount of accuracy do to the thing bouncing all over the place[/ST]

[ST]3. In order to lay down FPF (final protective fire) or suppressive fire (continuous long bursts) you need to stay in one spot so you don't injure yourself or your squad.[/ST]
[ST]
My point is, blasts will be shooting all over the place and nowhere near the oncoming sith/jedi, leaving him to run straight down the middle and towards his target.[/ST]

With that being said, if you focus your entire 12 man or 13 man(USMC) squad directly on the jedi/sith, you will kill him. It would take more than one guy to hold off a jedi/sith, at least if he had a vibrosword he could delay the enemy. It worked in KOTOR

Opinions are opinions and I didn't mean to argue with you, I'm no expert, but I see what you are saying. I have characters for the Empire and Alliance and they need friends of some sort so when you create your character, I wouldn't mind Steven or Roger haven't a battle buddy.

Welcome to the site, we've recently changed timelines and now we write Star Wars history. I'm not going to hold a grudge against you, I'm just here to have fun.

 

[Deloi]

[ST]Ok look I know it was wrong about blah blah blah [/ST]I'm not in the military and this isn't a pissing contest.
[ST]1. 10 rounds per second is accurate information, but add the recoil, the elements and the skill of the user:
- the rifle would jam as two or three ammunition clips
- the recoil would reduce the amount of accuracy do to the thing bouncing all over the place[/ST]

[ST]3. In order to lay down FPF (final protective fire) or suppressive fire (continuous long bursts) you need to stay in one spot so you don't injure yourself or your squad.[/ST]
[ST]
My point is, blasts will be shooting all over the place and nowhere near the oncoming sith/jedi, leaving him to run straight down the middle and towards his target.[/ST]

With that being said, if you focus your entire 12 man or 13 man(USMC) squad directly on the jedi/sith, you will kill him. It would take more than one guy to hold off a jedi/sith, at least if he had a vibrosword he could delay the enemy. It worked in KOTOR

Opinions are opinions and I didn't mean to argue with you, I'm no expert, but I see what you are saying. I have characters for the Empire and Alliance and they need friends of some sort so when you create your character, I wouldn't mind Steven or Roger haven't a battle buddy.

Welcome to the site, we've recently changed timelines and now we write Star Wars history. I'm going to hold a grudge against you, I'm just here to have fun.

It did not work in KOTOR. Trask locked the door behind him and bandon had to leave because of it. Apparently Lian Neeson was the first to try the omnikey lightsaber technique. Also you have a typo at the end.