Invasion of Ando Prime OOC

[Brandon Rhea]

OK, there are some pretty glaring issues with this opening post.

1)

Alpha-Ten Veln disengaged the Flea-class dropship's external blast visors as the craft plummeted into Ando Prime's atmosphere. The extreme temperatures of planetary entry weren't a problem for modern ships, but Ando Prime's frigid climate could quickly flash-freeze the outside and disable the engines; those inside a frozen ship would be OK, but only until they hit the ground. It was in the Commando's best interests to keep the tiny craft ice-free.

Ando Prime has about 75 ships in orbit of the planet, as well as anti-aircraft/spacecraft defenses on the ground. I don’t see how you can just get to the surface unless your ship had stealth capabilities. You did say they were invisible in the third paragraph, but I have no idea if that’s a metaphor. It’s not clear whether this ship has stealth.

2) What your G.H.O.S.T. detector does isn’t clear. Does it just detect electrical weapons?

3)

His current target, all things permitting, was a gargantuan shipping station that handled the majority of Bogan exports in this sector. Their slaves mined away all day, unrelenting and untiring due to their mind-altering control collars; all of their raw product was moved to multiple automated shipping facilities that dominated the planet's landscape. Veln could see his target station from his current vantage point; the hub appeared a giant gray behemoth rearing its head over the horizon, massive antenna arrays dotting the building's crown. They would be transmitting messages to the various regions of the world, all the inbound traffic, the orbiting fleet. The stations didn't handle huge craft, but the sheer volume of thru-traffic necessitated speedy service - and, hopefully, good book-keeping. Veln felt dwarfed; the thing was at least a kilometer tall.

Unless I’m mistaken, this is all done off world. Can you show me where you found that information?

To be honest, so much of this just seems like stuff you made up. I get that you didn’t have a lot to go on, but I wouldn’t have a lot to go on if I attacked Ossus either. That doesn’t mean I’m just going to make stuff up.

"... those frakking rats slipped through the fence again. I'm out thirty mines in defense sector C. Send some of the slaves if you've got any to spare."

"The hell I will, you lazy piece of swamp-toad. My security detail is stretched enough as it is with all that Bogan nonsense in Orchid Camp. Just task one of the robots to repair the fence and lay down some fresh mines."

"So what did you recruit that squad of mercs for, numbskull? You know that reprogramming involves leaving the security post, you dumbass tur-"

"Yes, I know that involves leaving the stinking security post. But I'm three shipments behind, and somebody has to keep these slaves working. Go program a robot and get back to the security sector, I guarantee that the Republic won't land a cruiser in the meantime."

Objection your honor!

You don’t just get to NPC Bogan personnel. I’m not even going to read this post any further because, from where I’m standing, everything after it is invalid.

If 30 mines go up, you don’t just get to decide that the Bogan are idiots and didn’t so much as go check. Any Bogan facility would have PC Force users at it, particularly ones with our slave workers—that was part of their purpose, they were slaves to the Force users.

IMO, although it’s an RP admin’s call, I think everything after that point in this post needs to be deleted. PCs need to be given a chance to check something like this out, as you don’t get to decide what members of your enemy faction do in response to your actions.

I’ve taken issue with a few things before this point, but I’m willing to let all of that go if everything in this post after the mine explosion is removed and we do things here the right way.

Aka, you actually give people a chance to RP.

 

[Santoro]

I know this sounds a little lazy, but I have nowhere near the attention span for the novel that was slapped down. Anyone have a tl;dr version?

I'm almost in favor of letting little things slide just so we can get actual fighting going on. However, some things are just no-gos for me, so I agree with Bac about the RPing enemy NPCs for anything other than fluff.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I know this sounds a little lazy, but I have nowhere near the attention span for the novel that was slapped down. Anyone have a tl;dr version?

I'm almost in favor of letting little things slide just so we can get actual fighting going on. However, some things are just no-gos for me, so I agree with Bac about the RPing enemy NPCs for anything other than fluff.

I've been talking with Tarus over PMs to work it out.

I also agree about letting little things slide, but like I said there and like Tarus knows I've said via PMs too, there are certain actions where it's just not fair RPing to get in and get out with information all in one post. Actions like that need to be given a chance to be countered.

 

[Ender]

I just want to get on with the war. Another question though, when we get down to the nitty gritty, could we RP Bogan infantry NPCs and the like? Like non-essentials?

 

[Santoro]

I just want to get on with the war. Another question though, when we get down to the nitty gritty, could we RP Bogan infantry NPCs and the like? Like non-essentials?

Usually in big battles the PCs act as commanders, so I would see bogan NPCs pretty reasonable.

 

[Ender]

Awesomeness. Tarus expressed some complaints that could be cleared up with that.

 

[Dread]

Do you mean the Bogans npcing Bogans or the enemy npcing Bogans?

 

[Tarus]

Just to keep everybody else in the loop; Brandon and I are working things out. For now, I'm going to remove the mine section, as it was put in for awesome-factor and not 100%-thought-out. It makes you guys look like fools if I just wade through your defenses and you don't notice. So the mines are out.

I also won't be controlling any enemy soldiers. That's not too much of an issue, given that they were tied directly to the mines. I can pretty much splice that section out.

If anybody has separate complaints, feel free to raise them - I'm not a douchebag, just a guy who likes to write forever (sorry, Santoro).

 

[Empress]

need to get Sal motivated.....



Also though , lets not forget Where ando prime is, and surrounding " and not too friendly systems"

there may be an armada hiding nearby who is NOT going to be happy about seeing this

 

[Ender]

If it was just S.O.L.A.G I think it'd be fine. But since we're bringing in the big shit...

 

[Tarus]

Alright, made some changes.

Main removals:

- didn't kill the Zabrak comms officer.

- there were no mines to detonate; ergo, I didn't need to roleplay any responders.

These were the main complaints. I'm still waiting on Brandon to see what he thinks, though.

 

[Zach]

Need a ruling from Brandon, since he's the one that made the list of PCs still on Ando Prime, and the question wasn't answered in the other OOC thread. Is Alice Levaquin still on Ando Prime? She was on a mission at the time on Tatooine, so would it be acceptable if I joined this thread as her returning from that mission?

 

[Empress]

Alright because there is some involvement from another faction in this I have been talking to Ru, and Sree about this but should put this out for everyone oocly.



Ando prime ( ando system in general) is in the heart of territory of free systems considered very hostile.. close to *and surrounded by Hutt space, but still deep into parts unclaimed by the republic: that said the republic is making a very bold move by taking a military task force into this area. It will take very very little for their actions to be seen as a hostile land grab by surrounding systems if it's not done right, and withdrawn when done.


That said. Jade armada is responding to the surge of republic forces by shadowing the republic, but holding out with the main battle armada at the ready inside the Thape system, and secondary forces to bolster their boarder in Falleen space ( and assumed to have the added forces of a few of the noble houses)

They are not masking they are there ( note however they are not identifiable as JA, but look more or less like a smattering of private security, and planetary forces) JA is making it very clear as a reminder to the republic that;

" this is NOT your space, provoke anyone, or do anything to destabilize the free systems, and you will be met by force...If you succeed in your operations, fall back and allow the Aqualish of ando to reclaim what is rightfully theirs"

they will NOT attack unless provoked or in other ways pulled into it....

The republic has ample time to finish up with Ando prime before JA can show up...but remember that if that happens, JA will be at full strength and ready, and the republic will be battle rattled, and tired...so it's not a ideal situation.


so again, take it as an IC/OOC reminder of how delicate this operation needs to be for the Republic...Jade itself is acting as a neutral body to protect it's own interests, and that of the independent systems.

 

[Santoro]

Ando prime ( ando system in general) is in the heart of territory of free systems considered very hostile..

I don't know about all that. The Hutts have planets 'behind' and 'in front' of Ando, so I don't know what the other free systems are.

 

[Empress]

I don't know about all that. The Hutts have planets 'behind' and 'in front' of Ando, so I don't know what the other free systems are.

pretty much anything along the corellian run the hutts dont own, and " under" into places like naboo and such are unclaimed by the republic still



* green denotes a note for myself so you can ignore that.

 

[Santoro]

pretty much anything along the corellian run the hutts dont own, and " under" into places like naboo and such are unclaimed by the republic still



* green denotes a note for myself so you can ignore that.

Since when? The Hutts contol planets along the Corellian Run, including Rodia and Iktotch all the way up there. We also control Naboo, as in this universe "Naboo" is supposed to be a Hutt word. Hutt space denotes the entire Outer Rim and part of the Mid Rim, not the Hutt Space in the Empire era.

Even so, I was unaware there were 'independent' worlds. If so, then I'd have taken those long ago. Isn't JA centered on the other side of the galaxy? Pretty sure our deal for a garbage planet was up there.

 

[Cailst]

Since when? The Hutts contol planets along the Corellian Run, including Rodia and Iktotch all the way up there. We also control Naboo, as in this universe "Naboo" is supposed to be a Hutt word. Hutt space denotes the entire Outer Rim and part of the Mid Rim, not the Hutt Space in the Empire era.

Even so, I was unaware there were 'independent' worlds. If so, then I'd have taken those long ago. Isn't JA centered on the other side of the galaxy? Pretty sure our deal for a garbage planet was up there.

There are quite a few "independent" worlds. Some on the mid-rim, others which are Hutt allied are on the "wings" of the outer rim like Taris or Eriadu.

 

[Santoro]

There are quite a few "independent" worlds. Some on the mid-rim, others which are Hutt allied are on the "wings" of the outer rim like Taris or Eriadu.

If we're not going to list who has what planets, then there's going to be misconceptions about this sort of thing. To leave indie planets close to crucial Hutt space would b a horrible tactical error- had I known they existed I'd have moved a long time ago.

Either we keep it simple with "this is hutt and this is republic" or we break it down to specifics, this 'not knowing' game we're playing isn't going to work.

 

[Empress]

no, I totally agree... then you do factor in " planets that are not controlled by anyone period" which is who I refer to, Im not " claiming " any of these as mine or anything, by free I was meaning " unclaimed"

thats what made the territorial wars of the first time line so easy to plan and work out because every faction had to list exactly what planets/sectors they controlled.

* look also at Zeltros, thats pretty much in the heart of the republic worlds, but not republic space through everything around it is, so I tend to like those specifics ^_^

JA has it's main point of operations outside of Falleen because our vice admiral is a falleen noble the Diyu facility has more or less support for the shipping of goods to the hutts, and salvage.

 

[Santoro]

Well, tonight/tomorrow I'll post planets and areas I feel the Hutts should be. I was under the impression even Falleen was secure in Hutt control, this needs to be clarified.