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Kaeb

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I don't see anyone blaming you.

And there's nothing wrong with repeating the questions. If someone's not sure of something, it's better to ask again than making assumptions that could derail the thread.

Those are the same people who said ''Yes, I understand'' and then asking ****ing again.

And all of the blame is mostly happening via PM and I know for the fact it's the reason behind the Coup.

I'm the one getting the ''How come the ****ing thread isn't up yet?'' PM's every night aswell.

Someone needs to tell them I'm not to blame and it's out of my hands because I'm sick of doing it.
 

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Those are the same people who said ''Yes, I understand'' and then asking ****ing again.

And all of the blame is mostly happening via PM and I know for the fact it's the reason behind the Coup.

I'm the one getting the ''How come the ****ing thread isn't up yet?'' PM's every night aswell.

Someone needs to tell them I'm not to blame and it's out of my hands because I'm sick of doing it.

I'll do that.

But there's again nothing wrong with saying you understand and then asking again if you're actually not confident that you're sure.
 

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I'll do that.

But there's again nothing wrong with saying you understand and then asking again if you're actually not confident that you're sure.

I get that but under the circumstances it get's very ****ing annoying.
 

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When you put yourself into a leadership position, it's something you have to deal with.

I'm not disputing that, I'm saying the reasons it's so annoying is because it's coupled with blame and anger from everyone elses part aswell when I'm equally annoyed as they are.

You were there when I stayed up all night working on the threads and attmepting to sort out the shit storm the covert thread started.

I have no problem with leadership, it's the circumstances and riddiculousness that needs to be adressed.
 

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I'd like to note that I don't look incompetent and that no one's blamed me for anything because my entire faction is busy either training, doing missions or building my army.

Keeping busy doing other stuff is how you keep from looking retarded when this happens with main threads. And this always happens with main threads.


Edit: Misdirection is your friend here constantine, get the faction doing other stuff as well, then they can hop in the main thread when it's ready.
 

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I'd like to note that I don't look incompetent and that no one's blamed me for anything because my entire faction is busy either training, doing missions or building my army.

Keeping busy doing other stuff is how you keep from looking retarded when this happens with main threads. And this always happens with main threads.


Edit: Misdirection is your friend here constantine, get the faction doing other stuff as well, then they can hop in the main thread when it's ready.

I was doing that by having Viggy train the new members and organizing the first council meeting, but Santoro went and ****ed that up and ruined any chances I had of future missions.

When I brought up my idea of Low Ranking operations here, that fizzled out aswell.

It got incredibly frustrating because there's nothing making me doing all this work for the faction/forum and I worked hard for everyone. It'd be nice to get some appreciated rather then getting blamed for it's long drawn out failure.
 

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That's what happens, and we forget that sometimes. We don't get congratulations for doing our jobs.
 

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That's what happens, and we forget that sometimes. We don't get congratulations for doing our jobs.

For the last time, I'm not looking for congratulations I'm looking for someone to tell them it's not my ****ing fault. Bac said he'd do it.

End of discussion.

Now would everyone **** off talking about it and get ready for the thread.
 

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You need to chill the out Kaeb. Yes, you're frustrated because you feel that you're being blamed, but you need to stop biting our heads off because of it.

Sheo brought up a good point: missions. It doesn't matter if there was a coup attempt. At least until the battle is over, you're still the faction leader and that means you need to act as the faction leader. As the battle is going on, you should be working with Viggy and your Council members to come up with missions. You need to do that. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. You're required, as is everyone else.

As for the low rank operations, yet again you took it upon yourself to lead that. If you see that discussion in a thread you're responsible for is starting to die out, it's incumbent upon you to keep it going. You didn't do that, not once.
 

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You need to chill the out Kaeb. Yes, you're frustrated because you feel that you're being blamed, but you need to stop biting our heads off because of it.

I'm biting heads off because everyone thinks they've got something figured out when they don't.

Sheo brought up a good point: missions. It doesn't matter if there was a coup attempt. At least until the battle is over, you're still the faction leader and that means you need to act as the faction leader. As the battle is going on, you should be working with Viggy and your Council members to come up with missions. You need to do that. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. You're required, as is everyone else.

I have been acting as the faction leader, there have been missions going on within my factions wether it's the hutt tournament that was taking place or simply dealings among hutt's.

As for the low rank operations, yet again you took it upon yourself to lead that. If you see that discussion in a thread you're responsible for is starting to die out, it's incumbent upon you to keep it going. You didn't do that, not once.

Wrong, I never agreed to leading it, I brought up the idea and asked for everyone's input and contributions.

I get your trying to calm me down that's understandable, it's in your job description. I keep biting everyones heads off because they think they've got it all figured out. You all need to stop analyizing my frustration and move the **** on.
 

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I'm biting heads off because everyone thinks they've got something figured out when they don't.



I have been acting as the faction leader, there have been missions going on within my factions wether it's the hutt tournament that was taking place or simply dealings among hutt's.



Wrong, I never agreed to leading it, I brought up the idea and asked for everyone's input and contributions.

I get your trying to calm me down that's understandable, it's in your job description. I keep biting everyones heads off because they think they've got it all figured out. You all need to stop analyizing my frustration and move the **** on.

How old are you again? Take a deep breath and relax man. If people are complaining then something is wrong, hate to break it to you, that's politics. Sit down and figure out what it is and fix it, no one in my faction (which is also people in your faction) is bugging me about this main thread nearly as much as they are you. You said you had a hutt tournament, and you had dealings amongst the hutts. However that doesn't mean everyones enjoying those missions.

Now the biggest complaint I've heard about you is that you simply don't take an interest in everyone. You don't act like a faction leader and you let everything run itself, people send you PM's with what they're doing, you reply and let that be that.

Delegation is great, but when you work hard behind the scenes you have to show it up front too. Take an interest in what's going on in your faction, talk to members about stuff, get their feed back. Even if it's only from a handful of people, that handful will tell other people who start to complain "Oh no, he's not like that, just send him a PM or something and it'll get straightened out."

Sure you'll get like 15 times more work to do on a weekly basis, but it's what we signed up for mate.
 

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I just want to make sure that Hakim and Kaeb know how the space battle thread is going, IE the members don't RP one ship, they RP command over multiple ships, depending on their rank/the needs of the battle.
 

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Sheo if I wanted your opinion, I'd ask for it. The reason people are coming to me about the thread is because I'm running the damn thing. But I'm not the one who has stalled it, which is what they're complaining about. The Hutt faction has multiple misions right now, noone complaints or comments to via PM have been about those threads, they have all been about THIS thread and rightly so.

I asked if someone other than me could let them know we've been doing our best and they can't put the blame solely on one person because we've all contributed to this shitstorm but I like said before the main instigator wether it was accidental, intentional or oust of pure laziness, is Kupo.

I create the damn thread, I've been the one whose been answering all the questions WHILE running my own faction. This thread became way to big and overexaggerated for it's own good.

I've asked twice now that this be dropped so we get back to the task at hand.

There's nothing to figure out, everything has been stalled. Now move the **** on like already told everyone to.

Yes Nexus we've gone over that multiple times aswell.
 

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It's just the Republic that we're waiting on, right?
 

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It's just the Republic that we're waiting on, right?

Indeed.

I'm launching thread tonight most likely, which eventually will be followed by the space thread. We need to establish whose launching that third thread we discussed.
 

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The second thread (the Ground force landing on Nar Shaddaa) will be posted by whoever is in charge of it (or Hakim), and the Space thread will be posted immediately following the posting of the second thread by Hakim.
 

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So the first thread:

S13, Jedi, Bogan, Taung, Malgarr and Cailst representing the council. This will eventually cascade into assasination attempts, battles and other craziness.

Second thread:

Ground battle and other ground operations.

Space thread:

Obvious.
 

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So the first thread:

S13, Jedi, Bogan, Taung, Malgarr and Cailst representing the council. This will eventually cascade into assasination attempts, battles and other craziness.

Second thread:

Ground battle and other ground operations.

Space thread:

Obvious.
Pretty much, yea.
 

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There's were I'm twitchy.

I have Malgarr in the first thread, Akaviri in the space thread. But virtually no Hutt presence in that other ground thread.
 
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