Metellos (and Ruan and Bessimir) OOC

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Do you know how big the gravity well for the orbit of the planet is? You need to break out of that before going into hyperspace, or else your trajectory will be ruined and you'll probably end up crashing into something, like a sun.

Actually, the gravity well of a planet extends to the entire universe, its just it's not that effective out there. Since it was stated in the previous Metellos ooc that the orbital cannons were at the edge of their effective range, I'm fairly certain that we would be far enough away that we could break out of their gravity well.
 

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Actually, the gravity well of a planet extends to the entire universe, its just it's not that effective out there. Since it was stated in the previous Metellos ooc that the orbital cannons were at the edge of their effective range, I'm fairly certain that we would be far enough away that we could break out of their gravity well.

You have since got closer to them since the battle began. And how can you be certain, we don't know how strong the pull of Metellos is, or how far you are. But we're not as far out as the average moon, I would have thought. So we're well within the well.
 

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You have since got closer to them since the battle began. And how can you be certain, we don't know how strong the pull of Metellos is, or how far you are. But we're not as far out as the average moon, I would have thought. So we're well within the well.

Did it even actually say we were within the orbit of the moon? I think we may need more quantitative announcements in the future but for now, why not just allow the losing side to at least survive? And there would be no way of actually knowing if ships actually were in the gravity well as neither quantitative announcements, nor quantitative standards were said. Also, as Kupo said, the battle was conducted pretty well and he didn't feel like being a wank by annihilating the force that had RPed fairly, all I did was finalize what I thought Raider was planning based on what he had done previously.
 

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Did it even actually say we were within the orbit of the moon? I think we may need more quantitative announcements in the future but for now, why not just allow the losing side to at least survive? And there would be no way of actually knowing if ships actually were in the gravity well as neither quantitative announcements, nor quantitative standards were said. Also, as Kupo said, the battle was conducted pretty well and he didn't feel like being a wank by annihilating the force that had RPed fairly, all I did was finalize what I thought Raider was planning based on what he had done previously.

No it didn't, but it's pretty much implied. The guns would be just outside of the upper atmosphere(Just over 10,000km up), the Republic defense fleet just ahead of that. Then yours is within range of that, and the Republic reinforcements behind you. In contrast the moon would be well over 200,000km from the planet.
 

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No it didn't, but it's pretty much implied. The guns would be just outside of the upper atmosphere(Just over 10,000km up), the Republic defense fleet just ahead of that. Then yours is within range of that, and the Republic reinforcements behind you. In contrast the moon would be well over 200,000km from the planet.

Even so, the effective gravity well is likely to be smaller for smaller things like ships as ships are far smaller than the moon and the gravitational attraction between my ships and the planet is less than the gravitational attraction between the moon of the Earth and the Earth. Plus, Wing was able to retreat from Mon Calamari without much of a problem even though he started from the upper atmosphere and got to hyperspace all in one turn.
 

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Even so, the effective gravity well is likely to be smaller for smaller things like ships as ships are far smaller than the moon and the gravitational attraction between my ships and the planet is less than the gravitational attraction between the moon of the Earth and the Earth. Plus, Wing was able to retreat from Mon Calamari without much of a problem even though he started from the upper atmosphere and got to hyperspace all in one turn.

Firstly, I don't think Wing is the best indicator of how to Rp.

Secondly, let me see if I've got your post right. Your fleet has fled. As it stood, you were moving towards the planet. You'd have to travel past it, before making your jump.

Five destroyers, the rearguard, are now attempting to crash into the planet.

One destroyer, has re-entered real space one planet out.

You've destroyed the hyperspace beacons from the worlds of the Alsakan Union to Metellos

Is that right?
 

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I've fixed the post so that the ships have sufficiently turned to be headed in the right direction.

You are right in the next two sentences.

We've destroyed the hyperspace beacons from Metellos to the Alsakan planets though I don't think that Alsakan has any direct connection to Metellos.
 

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I've fixed the post so that the ships have sufficiently turned to be headed in the right direction.

You are right in the next two sentences.

We've destroyed the hyperspace beacons from Metellos to the Alsakan planets though I don't think that Alsakan has any direct connection to Metellos.

Your ships were already heading towards the planet.

But, other than that, that's fine. On the basis of your reply, you have no choice but to accept fully the content of my next post in the thread.
 

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Your ships were already heading towards the planet.

But, other than that, that's fine. On the basis of your reply, you have no choice but to accept fully the content of my next post in the thread.

According to the drawing, we were parallel to the planet, all I did was make a small right turn that was headed to Coruscant, I don't see how that suddenly makes me any more vulnerable than I would have been before.


---Republic rein.---

-------Alsakan Fleet-------

-------Republic Fleet-------
---Orbital Guns---




------------------------------------------Planet------------------------------------------
 

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According to the drawing, we were parallel to the planet, all I did was make a small right turn that was headed to Coruscant, I don't see how that suddenly makes me any more vulnerable than I would have been before.


---Republic rein.---

-------Alsakan Fleet-------

-------Republic Fleet-------
---Orbital Guns---




------------------------------------------Planet------------------------------------------

The planet's curved; you can't be parallel to it. Unfortunately I can't draw curved lines with dashes on a computer. And what do you mean by "right"? If, as I assume you are facing the planet, then by turning right you are presenting bigger targets to the Republic and would take more damage.
 

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According to the drawing, we were parallel to the planet, all I did was make a small right turn that was headed to Coruscant, I don't see how that suddenly makes me any more vulnerable than I would have been before.


---Republic rein.---

-------Alsakan Fleet-------

-------Republic Fleet-------
---Orbital Guns---




------------------------------------------Planet------------------------------------------


No, it had changed. As it stands it's more like this;


Republic fleet (kupo)
Alsakan rearguard


Orbital guns

Republic fleet (sheo)
Alsakan fleet



Planet

And yes, that does make you more vulnerable. A change of direction without totally breaking formation (and killing your own ships through collisions) slows you down. By changing direction, you get to hyperspace in less distance, but in only a slightly reduced time.

Raiders move was smart, because it kept the best part of the republic fleet from being able to shoot at him, by putting friendly ships in between me and him whilst he fled towards (and then presumably over) Metellos. But that nifty little change of direction you did puts you back in front of my ships, without anything in the way as you move away from Metellos. Which coincidentally means my part of the fleet gets to say goodbye in their own special way; as does sheo's. That turn was a tactical error, and you will pay dearly for it.

My post allows you to save a good chunk of your fleet, but if there aren't serious casualties, I will kick up one HELL of a stick.

Kthxbai!
 

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Raider would've made a fine Alsakan tactician.
 

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Raider would've made a fine Alsakan tactician.

He certainly would have. Perhaps that may have evened the odds just a little as the Alsakan generals are now largely a bunch of novices as only Mulluns has been in charge of a battle before and the vets that were generals now aren't doing anything.
 

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He certainly would have. Perhaps that may have evened the odds just a little as the Alsakan generals are now largely a bunch of novices as only Mulluns has been in charge of a battle before and the vets that were generals now aren't doing anything.
Even so, I'd think that the Alsakans are a whole of bunch of novices compared to Republic tacticians. The Republic has a very long military history to fall back on, I think.
 

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Even so, I'd think that the Alsakans are a whole of bunch of novices compared to Republic tacticians. The Republic has a very long military history to fall back on, I think.

Other than surprise which was lost long before I arrived, do the Alsakans actually have any advantages over the Republic? Perhaps unity but that's currently not that big of an advantage.
 

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You have unwavering loyalty from your people and the ability to do almost anything to the Republic without your people condemning you. And on top of that, a pressing need to go and post in a certain battle, of which failure to do so may well result in a certain amount of shanking.

So, off you trot.

Go, go gogogogogo!
 

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Other than surprise which was lost long before I arrived, do the Alsakans actually have any advantages over the Republic? Perhaps unity but that's currently not that big of an advantage.
Guerilla warfare, I'd think. Something akin to the Rebel Alliance. But I digress: discuss via PMs, if you want to continue chat.
 

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And on top of that, a pressing need to go and post in a certain battle, of which failure to do so may well result in a certain amount of shanking.

The idea opf somebody on this site chanking anything is hilarious.
 

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The idea opf somebody on this site chanking anything is hilarious.

... any money says I could take Calist.

Also, I get the feeling I ought to be offended...:CIsee:
 
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