Obama orders Guantanamo's closure.

[Niner]

I also remember the story that was on the news about the soldier who was nearly killed at a "peace" rally.

The man had had both his feet blown off at the ankles by an IED and after he got out of the hospital he was out with his family, in a wheelchair of course, and they passed a "peace" rally. Now I have nothing wrong with rallys but this was despicable. When they saw his tshirt, which said he was Marine, they ran over to him, dumped his wheelchair over, started kicking him and spitting on him.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

The majority of Vietnam veterans never mentally recovered from that war. I know this with five Vietnam vets in my family. Four of them have many problems and one of them basically drank himself to death.

Indeed. They really weren't taken care of.

 

[Sovereign]

Keep in mind that there are also fringe Jews and Christians that feel this way as well. You're just always going to get those people, regardless of whether they're prominent or have less public images.

Then you don't really have a point.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I also remember the story that was on the news about the soldier who was nearly killed at a "peace" rally.

The man had had both his feet blown off at the ankles by an IED and after he got out of the hospital he was out with his family, in a wheelchair of course, and they passed a "peace" rally. Now I have nothing wrong with rallys but this was despicable. When they saw his tshirt, which said he was Marine, they ran over to him, dumped his wheelchair over, started kicking him and spitting on him.

And yet 99% of all Americans would say that people like that are retarded.

Then you don't really have a point.

My point was a "to be fair" point. I wasn't making an argument, I was just saying that JM technically isn't wrong.

 

[Matt]

I also remember the story that was on the news about the soldier who was nearly killed at a "peace" rally.

The man had had both his feet blown off at the ankles by an IED and after he got out of the hospital he was out with his family, in a wheelchair of course, and they passed a "peace" rally. Now I have nothing wrong with rallys but this was despicable. When they saw his tshirt, which said he was Marine, they ran over to him, dumped his wheelchair over, started kicking him and spitting on him.

Terrible thing to happen but I'm 99% sure things like that don't happen often.

There are aways people that go to far at most things.

 

[Niner]

And yet 99% of all Americans would say that people like that are retarded.

yeah, right. Things like this happen across the country yet it is just labeled as "freedom of speech". People need to realize that the Military is honerable and not say "I hate the military" as some peopl even on here have said in the past.

 

[JM76]

You're oversimplifying the situation again.

Which terrorist group are you talking about here? Hamas? Hizbollah? The definition of what a terrorist is changes between individuals.

Perhaps. I'm discussing the Muslim terrorist groups that have specifically condemned the U.S. or the "west" in the name of Allah.

No. They have their own reason to hate America. Some groups in Iraq would hate you because you've invaded their countries, others in Egypt hate you because you're financing a dictatorship. Same thing for Saudi Arabia. In Palestine, they hate you because you're giving money to Israel, who constantly drops bombs on their head.

So please.

Don't say that it's because you're an "Infidel", that is just basic rhetoric. It's their propaganda. If you look into it, they are a number of underlying
causes.

Again, no. There is a lot of conflict within Islam as well. Don't forget that.

I believe it's a whole lot simpler than you're making it. For example, if all these countries are pissed at us for different reasons, why do they not differentiate between who they attack? Why don't they solely attack Americans and Europeans? Also, why do Muslim radicals attack Hindus? Or Buddhists? Why do they attack churches within their countries?

 

[Imperator]

To be fair, all sides in Islam has powerful radical leaders whose intent is to unite the world under Muslim law with themselves as the leaders.

Not really, my former roommate was a Muslim who was part of a Muslim group that was very anti-violence.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

yeah, right. Things like this happen across the country yet it is just labeled as "freedom of speech". People need to realize that the Military is honerable and not say "I hate the military" as some peopl even on here have said in the past.

Whether you like it or not, they do have freedom of speech, even if that speech is insane.

 

[Ser Gregor]

Such a shitty dirty horrible nasty war.

Which they ended up loosing.

Talk about a kick in the ass.

 

[Niner]

This war will probably still be going on when I join the Marines and I will be proud to fight for people like you. And I know the risks of death involved, but like I tell my dad when he says he dosn't want me to join the Marines because I might die, "I'd rather die for America, then live with Terrorists."

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Not really, my former roommate was a Muslim who was part of a Muslim group that was very anti-violence.

Uh, what? Did you not read a word I said? It's as if you're saying that I said "all Muslims want to take over the world" and crap like that. I said there are some in all Muslim sects.

Can we all please start reading each others post and stop misrepresenting them?

 

[Matt]

yeah, right. Things like this happen across the country yet it is just labeled as "freedom of speech". People need to realize that the Military is honerable and not say "I hate the military" as some peopl even on here have said in the past.

Really? One example and your saying it happens everywhere, you know the rules. Link or it didn't happen.

Who has said they hated the military? Seriously? Give an example or your just looking daft

 

[Niner]

Which they ended up loosing.

Talk about a kick in the ass.

We were winning when we forced to pull out. Read up, we won almost every major battle. If the stupid populace hadn't gone all hippy we could have liberated Korea from the Communists.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

We were winning when we forced to pull out. Read up, we won almost every major battle. If the stupid populace hadn't gone all hippy we could have liberated Korea from the Communists.

Now that is a gross oversimplification of the Vietnam War.

 

[Phil]

I also remember the story that was on the news about the soldier who was nearly killed at a "peace" rally.

The man had had both his feet blown off at the ankles by an IED and after he got out of the hospital he was out with his family, in a wheelchair of course, and they passed a "peace" rally. Now I have nothing wrong with rallys but this was despicable. When they saw his tshirt, which said he was Marine, they ran over to him, dumped his wheelchair over, started kicking him and spitting on him.

I'm sure they had a nice time in jail or fines to pay or whatever, assuming the Family didn't let the rally get away with it.

 

[Sovereign]

Perhaps. I'm discussing the Muslim terrorist groups that have specifically condemned the U.S. or the "west" in the name of Allah.

You need to understand that America never exactly helped them in the first place. Their hatred isn't totally irrational. They're humans just like us.

I believe it's a whole lot simpler than you're making it. For example, if all these countries are pissed at us for different reasons, why do they not differentiate between who they attack? Why don't they solely attack Americans and Europeans? Also, why do Muslim radicals attack Hindus? Or Buddhists? Why do they attack churches within their countries?

For the Hindu thing, that's a completely different topic, and you'd find your answer by studying the history of India.

As for your other point, I would say that it's because Christianity has become a symbol of the Western world, and I've never heard of a terrorist attack against muslims.

 

[Niner]

Meh, I'm gettin off for the night, actually I am surprised I didn't get ban hammered by the staff for this thread.

 

[Matt]

We were winning when we forced to pull out. Read up, we won almost every major battle. If the stupid populace hadn't gone all hippy we could have liberated Korea from the Communists.

Shame there were like 4 major battles in the whole war LOL

Um....Why are you talking about Korea now?

 

[Niner]

Shame there were like 4 major battles in the whole war LOL

Um....Why are you talking about Korea now?

Vietnam my bad, I'm tired after walking all day.