S.O.L.A.G. DAEDROTH and ATRONACH OOC

[Tarus]

*ahem*

Before I begin, let me remind everyone that we have an OOC board for a reason. This board exists so that story missions don't get interrupted by people going, "Huh? What does this mean?" and totally killing any lure of RPing. If you have a question to ask, start an OOC thread, please.

Otherwise you make someone's thread look like a mess because you can't figure out where the proper place to post something is.

Now, as for the two threads mentioned in the title: Santoro, you cleared us to do anything,

So long as it's minor and won't be anything on the scale of cutting off planets from the galaxy... Anything marked "Hutt Space" (i.e. Nal Hutta, Nar Shaddaa, Ylesia, etc) would be very locked down."

We're not in Hutt Space, we're not cutting any planets off from the galaxy. We're on a covert mission (READ: covert, with a c, i.e. not broadcasting our presence to the entire universe) to kill a few NPCs in the name of keeping my faction, which exists to do covert missions, busy, to build RPing skills, and to, you know, roleplay. This will not affect anything in any way.

Now, if you have anything else to say, point it to this thread, or to myself or Adena. Please do not butt into IC threads like the Three Stooges on PCP.

 

[Aluminum Falcon]

I don't get why its closed. If you made it in the interest of RPing wouldn't you want to allow opposition? Or was it made closed to avoid the OOC bitchfests over battles that are common place on this forum?

 

[Santoro]

That post you referenced doesn't clear you to attack willy-nilly and use Hutt NPCs in something that could be very damaging.

I certainly didn't clear you to kill Hutt NPCs in an attempt to capture an Imperial data station, which would have impact on things. I also wasn't notified of this, given a chance to counter, or... Anything, really.

If this was in the spirit of RP, then why make it closed and not allow us a chance to counter?

Just so we're clear, my issues are:

1. I and my co-leaders were not notified of this mission, which would have impact or it wouldn't be going on.

2. The thread is closed, so despite the potentially damaging nature to the Empire we have no chance to avoid it.

3. Your attitude about the situation. Be civil or I won't be.

 

[Tarus]

I don't get why its closed. If you made it in the interest of RPing wouldn't you want to allow opposition? Or was it made closed to avoid the OOC bitchfests over battles that are common place on this forum?

Man, if only people could read what I write.

We're not in Hutt Space, we're not cutting any planets off from the galaxy. We're on a covert mission (READ: covert, with a c, i.e. not broadcasting our presence to the entire universe) to kill a few NPCs in the name of keeping my faction, which exists to do covert missions, busy, to build RPing skills, and to, you know, roleplay. This will not affect anything in any way.

This is meant to get us doing something while I arrange actual two-sided threads in the background. I'm not a fan of sitting around idly.

Also, one-sided RPing against NPCs is great practice. You get to roleplay at your own pace, using your own weapons and tactics against targets you control. It's cool for people who are just starting to roleplay together to get a feel for each others' styles.

That post you referenced doesn't clear you to attack willy-nilly and use Hutt NPCs in something that could be very damaging.

I certainly didn't clear you to kill Hutt NPCs in an attempt to capture an Imperial data station, which would have impact on things. I also wasn't notified of this, given a chance to counter, or... Anything, really.

This will not impact anything in the greater storyline. You didn't even know you had these stations until now. They were not in existence. I created them to destroy them. They weren't making an impact before, they're not making an impact now, they won't make an impact after they're gone.

If this was in the spirit of RP, then why make it closed and not allow us a chance to counter?

Read my original post, and then my expansion on that topic earlier in this one.

Just so we're clear, my issues are:

1. I and my co-leaders were not notified of this mission, which would have impact or it wouldn't be going on.

Or, it will have no impact and is done purely for the sake of having fun and saving the OOC bitchfests for acutal, meaningful battles. Also, this is a covert attack. Do I have to broadcast every action I do? Hold on a second, a commando near Corellia is breathing. Everybody, alert Tusa!

2. The thread is closed, so despite the potentially damaging nature to the Empire we have no chance to avoid it.

See above.

3. Your attitude about the situation. Be civil or I won't be.

I'm being civil, I'm just exasperated. I can't even try to do some team-building with my faction without being besieged upon by people who think that everything should be cleared by everyone at all times. This won't have any long-term impact - hell, it won't have any short-term impact. Next time there's a question, please ask me, or Adena, or anybody else. I'd appreciate it if people weren't barging into my (or anyone's) threads left and right.

 

[Santoro]

That's good and fine, I'm all for practice. I tried to do my own sparring-style session for practice which unfortunately puttered out, so I understand why you tried.

However, since this potentially has a serious impact, the Hutts need to be notified and given a chance to defend themselves. If you'd like, I have a lot of PCs ready for action.

Edit:
Nevermind, new post.

 

[Empress]

I had assumed it was already shared, and I believe in passing I mentioned it to someone in the hutts... egh.....

On the up side, these situations are small and controlled....listening posts are rarely staffed with more than a few individuals and are in out of the way places...so there is very little chance of anything going out of hand.

>.< again, this jump, and battles hit me at a crappy crappy time but Im on top of things as best as I can given the " ever lightening" load.

 

[Tarus]

That's good and fine, I'm all for practice. I tried to do my own sparring-style session for practice which unfortunately puttered out, so I understand why you tried.

However, since this potentially has a serious impact, the Hutts need to be notified and given a chance to defend themselves. If you'd like, I have a lot of PCs ready for action.

This will not impact anything in the greater storyline. You didn't even know you had these stations until now. They were not in existence. I created them to destroy them. They weren't making an impact before, they're not making an impact now, they won't make an impact after they're gone.

If you'd like to, we can arrange this to be a completely-different ballgame. I didn't approach you about this sort of thing before because I intended it to be a minor exercise on minor targets that I created. Or, after this is done, we can have a joint mission where we're raiding a target of importance and you happen to have PCs there. I'd prefer the latter, because that gives us time to plan and co-ordinate.

Again, I'd like to stress that this isn't meant to have long-term ramifications. I'm not a bastard or a cheater - I won't make huge gains that will bring me returns later down the road, then turn around and say, "It's covert, so nya-nya!" I'd alert you if I was doing something like that, and we'd plan it. This, this was never meant to be anything but a few IC threads that help my faction teambuild.

 

[Santoro]

In response to your edits-

This is potentially damaging because, as a data ship, it could have a great deal of information on the Empire, which could be downloaded. It could connect to other ships and plant a virus, which would activate at just the wrong moment and then we'd have to swallow a "you didnt say anything about DAEDROTH and ATRONACH so, sorry". I'm cutting that situation off before it even happens, because things like this we DO need to notify each other.

 

[Tarus]

In response to your edits-

This is potentially damaging because, as a data ship, it could have a great deal of information on the Empire, which could be downloaded. It could connect to other ships and plant a virus, which would activate at just the wrong moment and then we'd have to swallow a "you didnt say anything about DAEDROTH and ATRONACH so, sorry". I'm cutting that situation off before it even happens, because things like this we DO need to notify each other.

No offense, but I think you're reacting to a situation which hasn't even happened yet.

To be honest, the end result of these two missions was that we'd kill a few NPCs, pull a few choice wires, and leave. I didn't have any apocalyptic plans in the range of "planting viruses" and disabling the Hutt fleets. No, this is literally, in the truest definition of the word, a practice run.

I mean, I agree, if I was about to plant a huge virus and kill everything in the galaxy then I would notify you - but I'm not, and this is a covert op, which is why I didn't notify you.

 

[Dread]

I can't help but point out that you seem to make up stations that belong to other factions. Such as the Bogan one, now the Hutts. If you want to make up places that belong to other factions I think it's best to contact the leaders of those factions beforehand, in order to avoid something like this. It doesn't matter if you think it's serious or not.

 

[Jake]

A covert operation would mean we don't know about it IC, not OOC. We could theoretically sneak a fleet through to Corellia and say it was a 'covert op' but that doesn't mean much.

Other than that I personally don't care much if you continue as you were. But in the future, ask at least one of the Hutt leaders (preferably Santoro) before you start something like this to avoid miscommunication.

I can't help but point out that you seem to make up stations that belong to other factions. Such as the Bogan one, now the Hutts. If you want to make up places that belong to other factions I think it's best to contact the leaders of those factions beforehand, in order to avoid something like this. It doesn't matter if you think it's serious or not.

Radz raises a good point as well.

Also, your shamelessly Elder Scrolls derived codenames are inexcusable. :[

 

[Tarus]

I can't help but point out that you seem to make up stations that belong to other factions. Such as the Bogan one, now the Hutts. If you want to make up places that belong to other factions I think it's best to contact the leaders of those factions beforehand, in order to avoid something like this. It doesn't matter if you think it's serious or not.

This will not impact anything in the greater storyline. You didn't even know you had these stations until now. They were not in existence. I created them to destroy them. They weren't making an impact before, they're not making an impact now, they won't make an impact after they're gone.

This is a covert mission. If I wanted to covertly attack a pre-existing station, and I did this same thing, people would be calling for my neck within seconds. That's why I'm creating things to destroy. The net result is zero. This has no long-term ramifications.

A covert operation would mean we don't know about it IC, not OOC. We could theoretically sneak a fleet through to Corellia and say it was a 'covert op' but that doesn't mean much.

Yes, but this isn't a fleet at Corellia. This is the equivalent of me going to an outdoor festival and kicking over four porta-potties.

Other than that I personally don't care much if you continue as you were. But in the future, ask at least one of the Hutt leaders (preferably Santoro) before you start something like this to avoid miscommunication.

Santoro and I are clearing this up.

Radz raises a good point as well.

Radz never raises good points. :CHappy

Also, your shamelessly Elder Scrolls derived codenames are inexcusable. :[

Points for being the first person to catch on. What, Skyrim is coming out soon. :D

 

[Empress]

hows this: it's known now...just roll with it get the individuals there needed to be there....everyone just makes better effort to avoid it in the future, end of it.

As I said I had thought it was already passed along.

and " making up" the location is not a real issue, it's something any faction would have many of scattered about as part of communication networks and dare I say even republic ones would be just as vulnerable.


so here it is, lets just please end the bitchfests before they can start, and roll with it, and again...there will be double the effort to make sure the miscommunications are avoided.

it's already being taken care of.

 

[Santoro]

After clarifying the reasons for and the details of the thread, the Hutts are hunky-dory letting them go on.

Hopefully this will go to show we all need to run everything by each other so no more FL's burst into murderous rage.
:bitchez

 

[Tarus]

After clarifying the reasons for and the details of the thread, the Hutts are hunky-dory letting them go on.

Hopefully this will go to show we all need to run everything by each other so no more FL's burst into murderous rage.
:bitchez

What Santoro means is Nal Hutta is open for business. We'll be covertly attacking it tonight, and it will result in viruses on all the Hutts. :CHappy

But yes, all is well. Props to all for maintaining a civil veneer.

Thank you for tuning in to this brief episode of Tarus (almost) loses his shit.

 

[Ender]

So we're clear again?

 

[Tarus]

So we're clear again?

Yes. As soon as Raif and Ru decide to post in their respective threads, things can proceed as planned.

 

[Ender]

Great.