The First Sith: The Plot System - Main Factions and Levels

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The Plot System: Main Factions and Levels

Our last announcement was centered around introducing the Plot System. This announcement will further elaborate on the plot system and how it affects levels, ranks and main factions.

Plots, Ranks & Levels
Plots have no direct impact on levels. To elaborate, someone can get to max level without ever doing a plot. Submitting plots will yield extra credits which will allow quicker level gains.

Plots do impact ranks directly. In order to rank up in main factions, the character will have successfully led and completed plots. For the rank of Master or Vigo, for example, a character need only reach level 2 to obtain it. From then on, players will have to submit a plot idea for each successive rank. For example, a member can submit an overarching plot arc to get them from Master rank to Jedi Councilor or Vigo to Lorda. Staff will evaluate the entire plot at its completion and then it will be determined whether that rank is granted or not. This will be entirely case by case basis and dependant entirely on how much effort is put into the plots. Someone that has a strong PC support system and an extensive story will be on the path to becoming a Main Faction Leader much quicker than someone doing the bare minimum.

A PC will have to be a minimum of level 4 before they can be eligible to be a Main Faction Leader. Once they hit level 4, they may petition to staff to step up to the Faction Leader position. If staff looks at the entire plot arc done thus far and deems it sufficient, they will be granted the position. If not, additional plots may be necessary. For Exiles, although a level 3 can challenge an Exile Lord for their rank, for the Faction Leader position, no outright challenge will suffice. There will need to be a plot around it that realistically leads to the ascension.

Anyone that hasn’t been ranking up throughout the faction internally will not be eligible to go for Faction Leader positions. The only exception is for Exiles vying for a Lord position. In this case, any level 3 Exile may challenge a PC Exile Lord to a single combatant duel for their position and title (please note this does not extend to NPC Exile Lords. NPCs will require a submitted plot involving multiple PCs to overthrow.). In order to ascend to Faction Leader, the Exile must not only be a level 4 Exile Lord but also have gained a power base of support before ascending.

Remember - YOU need to petition for rank promotions. No staff member will come to you and tell you you’re ready for a promotion. A PC’s ranking is entirely dependent on the player driving and tracking its progress.

Plot Admins and Moderators
This section is to remind everyone that staff members will be working hard to review your submissions or grant rewards. As a result, please be courteous of their time and don’t badger them if you don’t hear back on things immediately. If you repeatedly harass our staff, your plot will be instantly scrapped and further disciplinary actions might be taken.

This second point is especially important - No staff member will be telling you what to do for your plot. You present the plot to staff, and you get feedback on how it can be done. However, don’t ever go to staff members asking them for ideas on what to do from scratch because it’s not their job. Plots are dependent solely on the players to apply their creative thinking and there will be no handholding for this. If you’re unsure on what plots to do, look to other members that are successfully driving plots.

Main Faction Plots
A main faction plot is a main faction's current story, to be told by the players. These are not drafted step by step by administration beyond the introduction of overarching goals, but rather a plotline that the players will chart and progress. Main Faction plots will be presented as an overall goal or mission statement that the faction has at the time, the completion of which will progress the factions storyline. After a Main Faction plot goal is completed, the story will progress and a new goal will be presented.

Contributing to Main Faction plots is an easy task that anybody who has a character in the faction can do. Grab a fellow faction member and do a thread, or plan and submit a plot that contributes to the overall goal of the main faction. Once a main faction plot thread is completed, it can be submitted for review. Threads may be given more weight in the evaluation process depending on how risky they are, with higher risk threads such as a single OPEN or PvP thread being able to accomplish more than a single ASK. A player could even indirectly contribute by participating in main faction plot threads as an outsider to the faction, or NPCing for the Main Faction plot.

Influencing Main Faction Plots

While the goal of the faction plot is set, the journey to and the actual outcome will be entirely dependent on the actions of player characters. From individual threads to extensive plots, the player base of the faction will build the story to reach these goals. Extensive plots will have the more influence upon the outcome than individual threads, as they present a more sequential and coherent story towards the overall goal. This is not to say that individual threads can’t have an influence.

Through hard work and determination, players can influence and impact faction plots. As with influencing the outcome of the faction plot, player actions will be taken into account for the next faction plot. While it's not guaranteed that your plot will influence the path of the faction, the more compelling, coherent, and challenging of a story that is presented, the greater influence a plot can have on the factions story.

Can a faction “fail” its Main Faction Plot?

We certainly hope not. However if a faction is inactive, or extremely disorganized in its pursuit of the goal, it is possible for the faction plot be deemed a failure. As normal, once the faction plot is completed either successfully or not, new faction plots may begin. However the faction will likely be in less advantageous of a position due to its recent failings, and this could be reflected in the faction plot.

Player Run Independant Factions
Player run indie factions will operate closer to the plot system highlighted in the last announcement. Administrators will not be defining goals or overall purpose of these factions, so it'll be entirely the responsibility of the faction leader to drive the faction goals and stories. In order to become integrated into the main story with the Main Factions, the indie faction should have several plots done that weaves into the overarching story. The faction leader will have to gain a high amount of credibility to warrant the inclusion of the faction into key events.

Battles
Battles will still exist in the The First Sith, though we hope to have a more engaging system than we've seen in the past. Battles will be dropped organically into the story, especially in areas where opposing factions are both engaged in competing plots. Player made plots can even be designed in a way to trigger a battle, such as a plot to attack opposing factions, or two factions.

As a reminder, please keep all questions related to this announcement, such as clarification on anything mentioned here. In some of the other announcements, we're seeing a lot of tangents and derailments occurring and we would like to keep things on topic. Please thoroughly read the responses others have made before asking a question, to see if your question has already been answered. Thanks!
 

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Love the details here - getting excited. How will tracking happen, as far as credits and levels? You mention we need to keep track (especially to rank up) but will there be a chart somewhere or will you admins track that?
 

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Love the details here - getting excited. How will tracking happen, as far as credits and levels? You mention we need to keep track (especially to rank up) but will there be a chart somewhere or will you admins track that?

Please read here for more details on the way xp/credits will be handled
 

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Please read here for more details on the way xp/credits will be handled

I didn’t see my specific question there but I will dig through 9 pages of replies and see what I can find.

EDIT: sorry for my snark here... I was truthfully looking fo answers and it honestly wasn’t clear to me until later. Again, apologies for the ‘tude.
 
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So quick question: will plots be considered canon for the site as they are in progress, or only after they have been completed and approved?
 

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So quick question: will plots be considered canon for the site as they are in progress, or only after they have been completed and approved?

I'm not sure what you mean by "canon." Plots will be made up of numerous threads and as those threads finish they will be canonized. If the plot never finishes, the end won't be realized because the final threads will never be RPed/occur
 

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I'm not sure what you mean by "canon." Plots will be made up of numerous threads and as those threads finish they will be canonized. If the plot never finishes, the end won't be realized because the final threads will never be RPed/occur

Sorry maybe canon is the wrong word. I guess what I mean is will plots in progress be considered actually happening in the world/galaxy as they are updated, or will you need to submit the plot first and only then will those actions you completed be considered "real"?
For example, if there is some band of exiles who are currently in a plot about attacking and ransacking the Jedi temple, but they haven't submitted the plot yet, could some random knight post in another thread about taking a nice stroll through the temple and saying hello to all the soon to be significantly shorter younglings? Essentially will this plot be considered to have taken place only once the full plot is concluded, submitted, and approved, or will it be like normal threads in that it is more timeline cohesive with all other threads?
This might be super obvious, so I apologize if I am just getting confused over nothing.
 

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You have to conclude threads for them to be considered as having happened, if that's what you're asking.
 

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You have to conclude threads for them to be considered as having happened, if that's what you're asking.
Yep, thanks for baring with my incoherent ramblings :P
 

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Sorry maybe canon is the wrong word. I guess what I mean is will plots in progress be considered actually happening in the world/galaxy as they are updated, or will you need to submit the plot first and only then will those actions you completed be considered "real"?
For example, if there is some band of exiles who are currently in a plot about attacking and ransacking the Jedi temple, but they haven't submitted the plot yet, could some random knight post in another thread about taking a nice stroll through the temple and saying hello to all the soon to be significantly shorter younglings? Essentially will this plot be considered to have taken place only once the full plot is concluded, submitted, and approved, or will it be like normal threads in that it is more timeline cohesive with all other threads?
This might be super obvious, so I apologize if I am just getting confused over nothing.

I know I answered this on Discord, but just for the record here is the answer to this question for others who might be wondering:

Each individual thread will be "canonized" as it finishes, the same way a plot would be now. If not all the threads finish, the end goal of the plot won't be realized but the completed threads are still "canon." Example: if you're going to infiltrate the senate and you do a thread stealing some IDs but never do the subsequent thread to break into the senate, the ID stealing thread is still canon even though you never finished the plot
 

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From then on, players will have to submit a plot idea for each successive rank. For example, a member can submit an overarching plot arc to get them from Master rank to Jedi Councilor or Vigo to Lorda.

I don't mean to be getting into the weeds here but what does a "overarching plot arc" look like? If I say I want to be a Jedi Councilor and I've got the requisite levels and experience, I doubt that suffices, correct? I'm just trying to figure out what something like that entails. Thanks!
 

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I don't mean to be getting into the weeds here but what does a "overarching plot arc" look like? If I say I want to be a Jedi Councilor and I've got the requisite levels and experience, I doubt that suffices, correct? I'm just trying to figure out what something like that entails. Thanks!

It would need to be an IC, story-based reasoning as to why the character came to power. What have they done IC to earn such a prestigious title? Have they built something in the Order and brought other Jedi together or lead an offensive to defeat the Exiles in a major battle? What exactly those plots look like is up to the player to figure out.
 

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I don't mean to be getting into the weeds here but what does a "overarching plot arc" look like? If I say I want to be a Jedi Councilor and I've got the requisite levels and experience, I doubt that suffices, correct? I'm just trying to figure out what something like that entails. Thanks!

It would need to be an IC, story-based reasoning as to why the character came to power. What have they done IC to earn such a prestigious title? Have they built something in the Order and brought other Jedi together or lead an offensive to defeat the Exiles in a major battle? What exactly those plots look like is up to the player to figure out.

I'm not an admin, but your character's overarching plot arc to become a Jedi Councilor can be whatever you want it to be. I'll take an attempt at giving an example, and the admins can correct me and explain it better.

Lets say its a six-thread plot. You decide you want to build a legendary lightsaber. You come up with a rough sketch for what each thread will entail, recruit the people to write the threads with you, and write them. Here's my attempt at an example:

Thread 1: Your Jedi Master is tasked with leading a mission to investigate a disturbance in the Force. (completed with you and two other Jedi PCs) Your three write the thread, and find and secure the disturbance, which is a force relic or kyber crystal or whatever nucanon says. It is powerful, and should be returned to the Jedi for safe keeping. You have to fight some creepy crawlies and explore some tunnels to find it, use the force to open a sealed chamber, other fun jedi stuff.
Thread 2: The kyber crystal was a famous one, part of a lightsaber used by an ex-grand master, and you find an old holopad with information detailing where the other pieces of the saber are. You travel to another system and negotiate the an indie faction or NPCs to win back the hilt.
Thread 3: Your next journey takes you to a planet which is, unknown to you, the home of a few Jedi Exiles. They have already captured the focusing lens (or whatever, nucanon), and you have to convince them or fight them PvP to get it back.
Thread 4: Having gathered the pieces, you must construct the lightsaber. You recruit some Jedi PCs and fellow Masters to travel deep into a spooky Jedi cave of secret memories to confront the force spirit of the Jedi Grand Master. They challenge you to fight / convince / meditate through building the ancient weapon.
Thread 5: Having built the weapon on this world, you attract the attention of a serious Exile opponent. They confront you, demanding that you give them the weapon or face death, doom, and destruction. You fight. Hopefully you don't die.
Thread 6: Weapon in hand, you return to the Jedi, triumphantly. Testing your abilities, the Jedi Council sends you to a planet to confront old allies, a warrior culture, who has sided with the Exiles. You must prove your worth in combat against their champion before they will speak with you about rekindling their allegiance with the Jedi. You use your nulightsaber to win the battle and convince them to join you.

Or it could be an eight thread plot about how you convinced the allies mentioned above to rejoin the Jedi, performing tasks for them. Or you lead a series of diplomatic missions to Alderaan to establish a base, and fight bad guys and solve a missing princess's disappearance. Or whatever works for your character and is the story that YOU want to write!
 

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@TAC you might have given me a good idea for a plot right there.

Unto a question I had. Does fighting other PCs work faster towards ranking up? Or can you also become a Master or Sith Lord without actually ever having fought someone?
 

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@TAC you might have given me a good idea for a plot right there.

Unto a question I had. Does fighting other PCs work faster towards ranking up? Or can you also become a Master or Sith Lord without actually ever having fought someone?

". Threads may be given more weight in the evaluation process depending on how risky they are, with higher risk threads such as a single OPEN or PvP thread being able to accomplish more than a single ASK."

Open threads and PvP threads will be able to accomplish more so it would make sense for them to help one rank up faster as long as they are the appropriate level. They also said NPC Lord's would be able to be taken down with longer plots with multiple people. So while you may take down the Lord with out PvP I could see you having to fight off all of the people who helped take down that Lord for the spot.
 
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