War

[Brandon Rhea]

Unfortunately, this is at a bad time for me, as I have a 9 page paper coming up and a hard exam coming up in the next couple of days, so my activity levels will decrease. I will try to remain active in this, but I don't know how well that'll turn out.

You didn't know that 4 hours ago when you posted this thread?

 

[Black Noise]

Unfortunately, this is at a bad time for me, as I have a 9 page paper coming up and a hard exam coming up in the next couple of days, so my activity levels will decrease. I will try to remain active in this, but I don't know how well that'll turn out.

It's fine mate, Lupe and I can lead this. You post the OOC declaration now, I'll post IC after.

My suggestion, is to give the reigns for war decisions over to BN and Lupe, together let them decide the course of the war, with me and Sam helping them when they need it. At least until you get done with your business, of course have them check in with you, keeping you updated. That way nothing is slowed down until your get less busy.

This. I have experience in fighting, and this would be a very good time for me to get experience in organizing battles with opposing factions as well as give you burdens lifted.

You didn't know that 4 hours ago when you posted this thread?

Difficult OOC and IC circumstances has pushed this to the forefront, and Weiss has worked under immense pressure before. He likely believed/s he could/can handle this and the paper, If cannot, then that is why I and Lupe are here.

 

[Dmitri]

You didn't know that 4 hours ago when you posted this thread?

More of that I forgot it. I've been working on another paper, which had been my focus, which I had gotten done today. While I have OOCly informed GABA of the intent to declare war, we can postpone the war until I have less on my plate, but I also don't want to make the faction wait even longer.

 

[Count Sam]

My suggestion, is to give the reigns for war decisions over to BN and Lupe, together let them decide the course of the war, with me and Sam helping them when they need it. At least until you get done with your business, of course have them check in with you, keeping you updated. That way nothing is slowed down until your get less busy.

Well I like this idea, also I will be working hard to plan some corvette operations in this war for the Immortals. since normally that is what they would be mostly doing in this battle. Also the Immortals shall always be ready to be deployed in battles to soften enemy defenses and serve as shock troopers as well.

 

[Alexander Dregar]

We can take care of this Weiss, Lupe and BN are the AFL, and so are natural choices to lead if you can't for a short period of time. Life happens, thats why not just one person runs the entire faction :p We will kick their asses Boss, and think of you each time we do.

 

[Black Noise]

I'm feeling quite sick, and Weiss is likely exhausted. Let's post threads in the morning, shall we?

 

[Dmitri]

I agree that we should wait. BN, how about we post the OOC tomorrow then wait till Wednesday to post the IC? We don't want to have all our stuff out then not be able to do it right away; that's what hampered us a bit in Operation Zugzwang (original version).

 

[Black Noise]

I agree that we should wait. BN, how about we post the OOC tomorrow then wait till Wednesday to post the IC? We don't want to have all our stuff out then not be able to do it right away; that's what hampered us a bit in Operation Zugzwang (original version).

Brilliant plan, lets do that.

 

[Dmitri]

Real reason for attacking Endor: Die, Teddy Bear, die! :CDumb

 

[Alexander Dregar]

Time to burn the fuzz off the ewoks, hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe *maniacal laughter* Its partially their fault the death star war destroyed, they need to die... >.>

 

[Dmitri]

Once we've posted the OOC declaration, I might take an inquiry on what people want to do, as I might see if they'll be willing to wait a couple days for those plagued by the hurricane. I don't want people to feel left out in a battle opportunity because Sandy was harassing their homes.

 

[Dmitri]

BN, you were to wait on the IC declaration. Now they'll be able to fortify and it'll be a bitch now to get in a surprise attack.

 

[Black Noise]

BN, you were to wait on the IC declaration. Now they'll be able to fortify and it'll be a bitch now to get in a surprise attack.

I've already notified GABA that the Invasion of Endor occurs hours after the IC declaration. They can't push a massive amount of forces there in hours. And any IC transferrence they do will not take effect in the eyes of the Admins till after the invasion. Regardless, there are other variables that will allows us to know exactly how many ships they have there beforehand.
I'm handling this Weiss, if any shit comes up because I posted the IC declaration scarcely a day before the scheduled time then I'll deal with it.

Just focus on getting better, k mate. It'll be a bitch I have to handle if it even hits that.

 

[Dmitri]

I've already notified GABA that the Invasion of Endor occurs hours after the IC declaration. They can't push a massive amount of forces there in hours. And any IC transferrence they do will not take effect in the eyes of the Admins till after the invasion. Regardless, there are other variables that will allows us to know exactly how many ships they have there beforehand.
I'm handling this Weiss, if any shit comes up because I posted the IC declaration scarcely a day before the scheduled time then I'll deal with it.

Just focus on getting better, k mate. It'll be a bitch I have to handle if it even hits that.

Sorry if I sounded a bit snappy. I feel like crap. You're doing well. Still, I wish we have waited on the IC declaration. We could have very much used the Mando exodus to our advantage.

Also, I have a proposed revision to the Zugzwang assassination attempt. Basically, we'll claim the GA try to open negotiations with us. We met with their 'delegates' who turned out to be assassins and tried to kill us. They escaped, and we basically pull a Gaba on them, by stating that unless they hand over the (imaginary) assassins, the Chiss will continue to 'defend itself and its allies by combating the aggressive GA'. In a way, we make it seem like our original declaration of war was to just protect ourselves from future attacks and help our allies but not necessarily be proactive in entering GA (rather giving assistance to our allies), but that this latest 'transgression' has 'forced' us to take more proactive measures.

 

[Black Noise]

Sorry if I sounded a bit snappy. I feel like crap. You're doing well. Still, I wish we have waited on the IC declaration. We could have very much used the Mando exodus to our advantage.

Also, I have a proposed revision to the Zugzwang assassination attempt. Basically, we'll claim the GA try to open negotiations with us. We met with their 'delegates' who turned out to be assassins and tried to kill us. They escaped, and we basically pull a Gaba on them, by stating that unless they hand over the (imaginary) assassins, the Chiss will continue to 'defend itself and its allies by combating the aggressive GA'. In a way, we make it seem like our original declaration of war was to just protect ourselves from future attacks and help our allies but not necessarily be proactive in entering GA (rather giving assistance to our allies), but that this latest 'transgression' has 'forced' us to take more proactive measures.

I understand, is all good.

Oh, I love that. It could be after Endor and, regardless of taken or battle lost, give us and even greater drive to continue conquest and conflict.

 

[Dmitri]

Problem:

Alright, let me make this clearer. The GA never left Zaddja, Gannaria nor Codia. You can have the Chiss fleet waltz in, but its going to be meant with opposition, if you're going to take control of the area, then there will have to be a battle first. As I posted, in repsonse to Corden's thread where he informed the GA the Chiss were showing up, the GA sent reinforcements, the GA knew something was obviously up.

Before Endor, before your declaration, there needs to be a battle of some sort, you can't just skip over it as you are doing.

As per the original contract for those worlds state: Mandos and GA cohabited, GA had full regional control- That said unless their was a battle to " push out" said Alliance by mandalorians before hand would have had to happen in IC battles as well- they could not be retconned out.


long story short " Mandos were peacefully Renting parts of the space, they never owned the space- and there was never an IC conflict to push them out in an over all take over.

so that said: they can come in - it's not vacant space, nor is the mandos " giving it to them" a way to poof the GA presence- it was never the mandos to give- thus GA is there.

Chiss can show up- and I would advise about trying to play the time game- if the negotiations were done pre teth - despite Just wrapping up- and chiss waltz in at that point - that puts the mandalorians in a crap spot as they would be placed in the cross fire- and this would predate a declaration of war

do it WHILE the mandos are leaving the area- again puts the mandos " whom are nor able to fight in their current situation" in the cross fire.

if the Chiss wait until the mandalorians leave the areas- they have to expect a larger GA presence


~ note this is not a " official" statement this is me from my observations and does not reflect any of the additional situations as mentioned above, nor to the surrounding sectors, purely those worlds in question

This was my response, but feel free to provide other suggestions:

The Chiss and Mandalorians ICly (and OOCly) know it was only renting of those three planets, but they treated it as if it were total ownership. I'll be honest and admit both BN and I did not notice the post in Vencu's message to the GA. We expected there to be a normal presence.

Since a battle is needed, doing it during the evacuation may be one of the better options, as the GA will be spread out to other areas as well. Should we do a battle per planet, multiple battlefronts per planet, or a single battle to determine the three planets?

 

[Black Noise]

IC declaration happens AFTER the Mandos shipped out, thus we can assume they are already gone and the Chiss simply never left.
Since the GA is there(which I was NEVER aware of, my bad), we could have simply an immediate conflict of the Chiss ships (3 space stations and over 60 vessels) immediately engaging the Galactic Alliance. Saying the battles need to happen 'before' a declaration is stupid IMO. It not only makes little sense but it also voids the purpose of needing any declaration as firing the first shot would immediately begin war.

 

[Dmitri]

Are we certain we want to send 130-ish ships to the Zaddja Trio? It was brought to my attention that it would likely be noticed and would lead to more likely chances of an ambush. How many of those ships were already there in The Deal and how many of those were sent in during the Declaration? Is that number per planet or total for the Trio?

 

[Black Noise]

The ships were sent BEFORE the declaration, as stated in The Deal thread. Those ships include the ones taken to the planets initially by Roann. As the Mandos left, before the declaration, the Chiss arrived. Essentially, it was an 'non-GA sanctioned' trade off of the planets from Mando to Chiss hands while the Mandos still owned them. Now that war has been declared, the GA ships stationed there would be immediately engaged by the Chiss ships that had previously arrived. Us firing first.

 

[Alexander Dregar]

Talking at all about giving Red Nebula over to the Mando's yes Weiss? I still think it would be a smart move for the war.