Absolutely Pathetic

[Fyurin]

Wow. You guys have a strange view of professionalism, considering Navy SEALS are trained to kill and hurt people for a living, not to make sure they don't get boo boos because they were bad people. They did their job, got in, picked him up, and got out. People need to get off their backs, seriously.

 

[Sovereign]

Anyone who has played MODERN WARFARE before knows that punching a terrorist while capturing him isn't a big deal.

 

[Fyurin]

Ya, exactly. :P

 

[Matt]

This pig killed four people and wouldn't think twice about doing it again. He's a piece of scum. Giving him a mere bloody lip is hardly anything to whine about. He's only complaining because he knows people will explode at the SEALs for being "unproessional".

Well we are better then these people, you don't assault a captive in a professional army.

 

[Matt]

You don't know that for sure. A SEAL may have had to punch him. When a prisoner is struggling, a swift punch in the lip probably helps to ensure cooperation. Are they supposed to be all nicey-nice with dangerous murdering terrorists? They have to make sure he's under control.

And you know what, even if they just hit him for the sake of hitting him, it doesn't really seem like that much of a big deal to me. A bloody lip, oh boo hoo. This is a war they're fighting, a punch is hardly a war crime. It's not as if they tortured him or anything.

Well judging from the fact it has got this far then I'm guessing he didn't have to punch him, if however they did then fair play to them and this is stupid.

But I doubt this is the case somehow.

 

[Grath Wyvrin]

Well we are better then these people, you don't assault a captive in a professional army.

We're Americans, we can do whatever the crap we want. :CStern:

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Was it unprofessional? Yes. Should they have done it? No. Will they be convicted? LOL absolutely not. They requested a court marshal because they know the judge is going to say "Are you ****ing kidding me?" They'll get let off, so there's no use getting riled up over it. If they don't get let off, feel free to flip a shit.

 

[Sovereign]

Should they have done it? No

Why not?

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Why not?

Because we're Americans and we should be holding ourselves to higher standards to show 100% that we're better than them. Just because he's a terrorist doesn't mean we get a free pass. Punching him in the face is not only something you can't do when you're detaining someone, but it also gives the terrorists fodder to show how 'evil' and 'horrible' we are.

We can't save America without holding onto what makes us Americans.

 

[Storm]

Not pathetic at all, this is not the 16th century, if you capture someone you don't **** them over, you detain them and act with some professionalism.

I disagree.

Although, due to American law, yes, he should be tried, I feel that terrorists can be treated with whatever disgusting behaviour the SEALS want.

They're terrorists.

And saying that as a person who generally opposes America...

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I disagree.

Although, due to American law, yes, he should be tried, I feel that terrorists can be treated with whatever disgusting behaviour the SEALS want.

They're terrorists.

And we're Americans. We have a code of conduct. Just because they're terrorists doesn't mean we get to lower ourselves and throw our code of conduct out the window.

 

[Matt]

I disagree.

Although, due to American law, yes, he should be tried, I feel that terrorists can be treated with whatever disgusting behaviour the SEALS want.

They're terrorists.

And we are better then them.

Well at least I am.

 

[Storm]

Meh, I don't consider it lowering.

I consider it punishment.

Fear tactics in order to achieve a result.

If it doesn't work towards a result, it still makes everyone feel better for killing a terrorist.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Meh, I don't consider it lowering.

I consider it punishment.

Fear tactics in order to achieve a result.

If it doesn't work towards a result, it still makes everyone feel better for killing a terrorist.

Fear tactics in order to achieve a result is what the terrorists do, hence "terrorism," and we're above them. Just because it gives you the momentary pleasure of harming a terrorist doesn't mean that it should be allowed. We have a code of conduct for a reason. We are BETTER than these people. Let's act like it.

 

[Storm]

Fear tactics in order to achieve a result is what the terrorists do, hence "terrorism," and we're above them. Just because it gives you the momentary pleasure of harming a terrorist doesn't mean that it should be allowed. We have a code of conduct for a reason. We are BETTER than these people. Let's act like it.

It's not an "above" case to not use fear tactics.

It's just a different way. You choose to see them as "below" you, but they're not below, just different.

At the end of the day, they achieve a result - countless wars have proven that.

 

[Matt]

It's not an "above" case to not use fear tactics.

It's just a different way. You choose to see them as "below" you, but they're not below, just different.

At the end of the day, they achieve a result - countless wars have proven that.

Proven what? You act like a **** and it helps win the war?

Hardly.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

It's not an "above" case to not use fear tactics.

It's just a different way. You choose to see them as "below" you, but they're not below, just different.

At the end of the day, they achieve a result - countless wars have proven that.

If the fear tactics involve hurting or killing someone in cold blood just to achieve some fleeting result, it's below me. It's not different, it's below me.

 

[Storm]

If the fear tactics involve hurting or killing someone in cold blood just to achieve some fleeting result, it's below me. It's not different, it's below me.

Below you perhaps, yes, as you can decide that.

Proven what? You act like a **** and it helps win the war?

Hardly.

Yeah, there's been countless military victories achieved through such tactics.

At the end of the day, these men made their choices when they chose to kill in the name of their God.

It's not like they're the victims.

 

[Matt]

Below you perhaps, yes, as you can decide that.



Yeah, there's been countless military victories achieved through such tactics.

At the end of the day, these men made their choices when they chose to kill in the name of their God.

It's not like they're the victims.

Like Vietnam and Afghanistan?

No one said they were victims but we class ourselves as living in an advanced civilization that should have such values.

And the fact is its easy for you to sit there behind a computer saying we should strike fear into people ec etc, but your talking behind a computer screen rather then having any involvement in said thing.

 

[Storm]

Like Vietnam and Afghanistan?

No. Look at the ancient world; nigh on every Empire.

No one said they were victims but we class ourselves as living in an advanced civilization that should have such values.

No we shouldn't. That's a matter of opinion.

And the fact is its easy for you to sit there behind a computer saying we should strike fear into people ec etc, but your talking behind a computer screen rather then having any involvement in said thing.

I'd do it.

I completely understand what you're saying; it is easy for me to say that from behind a computer screen, however all I can then do is say that yes, I would do it.