Changing Times' Changes

[Darasuum]

Hey there Sithy friends. So some of you may know the late and great Geir Ambros has been killed in a violently epic tragic manner. I'm sure you'll all mourn his passing. But with his death there are a few changes of personal subjects occurring. This is my way of announcing all of those changes.

Dissolving S.I.N.​

the Sith Intelligence Network was the organization led by Geir Ambros when he was a moff. During his life he organized and made it what it was but also kept a great deal from the other moffs. He worked with private contractors, contacts and various operators deep in the field unable to communicate with the greater brotherhood/empire. Because of this that meant it was siverly crippled and has become fragmented and unable to return to the organization it was under Geir's leadership. after the time skip it will be completely dissolved and I'll probably provide some explination or narrative about what happened. most likely it will just have members break away from S.I.N., be killed, or "go dark".

Dark Knights Rise​

With that being said for those of you that are still interested in the Dark Knights of Sin they will return to their system prior to becoming the elite unit of S.I.N. and just a small squad of elite Imperial warriors. Zeff, being the only living member of the Dark Knights will be leading them. It will be somewhat different than how Geir did things as Zeff is a different character with a different way of doing things. For those of you who consider yourself outcasts even in the Sith, criminals, bastards or just plain cool I welcome you to join either now or post Time Skip.

Write Up Changes​

There were/are numerous write ups for S.I.N., the Dark Knights of Sin as well as a few assets. These I will link below with the recent changes i've made and there will probably be more coming soon. As people join i will edit them further and after the time skip more changes will be applied according to new site lore. If you have questions, comments or concerns about any/all of this don't hesitate to voice them.

Dark Knights of Sin
S.I.N. (Sith Intelligence Network)
*because i'm lazy Zeff Exach's write up is in my signature*​

 

[Eccles]

The Sith Intelligence Network will remain as its part of the Empire and will simply be put under different IC (and OOC) leadership. An intelligence division will not be dissolved after the death of the Moff in charge, although he might be stricken from the records for using Imperial resources to fuel what seemed to be his own hidden agenda and not the benefit of the Empire. That's how I'd go about it...

 

[Darasuum]

The Sith Intelligence Network will remain as its part of the Empire and will simply be put under different IC (and OOC) leadership. An intelligence division will not be dissolved after the death of the Moff in charge, although he might be stricken from the records for using Imperial resources to fuel what seemed to be his own hidden agenda and not the benefit of the Empire. That's how I'd go about it...

well I'm saying S.I.N. will be dissolved. another intelligence network could rise from the ashes out of the remaining few members. but seeing as all the other moffs didn't like it IC so it was neglected by all save for Geir who put his personal wealth into the organization. it was basically relying so heavily on the PC that it would be just a shadow of its former self if anything at all and with the time skip if someone wants to make a new intelligence organization to replace it that's fine. but S.I.N. as Geir's brainchild will be dissolved especially since it probably violated many sith teachings and wasn't exactly "law abiding" but those characteristics were kept hidden from other members of sith leadership.

 

[Logan]

With Geir's death all of his assets wouldn't suddenly disappear. The Sith would have swooped in pretty promptly to seize everything he had a hand in, including his money, estates, ships, NPCs, and SIN.

Whether or not SIN would continue to function in any capacity would be up to @Malon

 

[Eccles]

As SIN was a division of the Empire that required a Moff at the helm, and there were no other Moffs with intelligence agencies (and without planets) that means there are no other Intelligence divisions or agencies that could rise from the ashes. SIN is part of the Empire and after Geir's death another Moff would be put in charge, reorganize and erase Geir from history on account of his suspicious dealings (and since a lot of info was lost on his death, poor managing). SIN will be ushered into a new era, with more oversight and less abuse of power.

Personnel can't just leave a government branch like intelligence, while the Dark Knights would get disbanded as an entity within SIN for its close ties to a traitor and its members put on close watch (at least). The fact that Moff Ambros founded SIN with Imperial assets and backing doesn't make it an independent branch and dependent on his existence.

Perhaps it sounds harsh because its your brainchild... but perhaps @Malon is a bit nicer.

 

[Darasuum]

With Geir's death all of his assets wouldn't suddenly disappear. The Sith would have swooped in pretty promptly to seize everything he had a hand in, including his money, estates, ships, NPCs, and SIN.

Whether or not SIN would continue to function in any capacity would be up to @Malon

As SIN was a division of the Empire that required a Moff at the helm, and there were no other Moffs with intelligence agencies (and without planets) that means there are no other Intelligence divisions or agencies that could rise from the ashes. SIN is part of the Empire and after Geir's death another Moff would be put in charge, reorganize and erase Geir from history on account of his suspicious dealings (and since a lot of info was lost on his death, poor managing). SIN will be ushered into a new era, with more oversight and less abuse of power.

Personnel can't just leave a government branch like intelligence, while the Dark Knights would get disbanded as an entity within SIN for its close ties to a traitor and its members put on close watch (at least). The fact that Moff Ambros founded SIN with Imperial assets and backing doesn't make it an independent branch and dependent on his existence.

Perhaps it sounds harsh because its your brainchild... but perhaps @Malon is a bit nicer.

all makes since i suppose. just want to say that DKoS would probably disband then. but since Zeff is the only remaining "active" member any leadership of just the DKoS would be his to do until directly ordered by the Emperor. which is fine too.

 

[Malon]

Yeah, while SIN might dissolve, the Empire would simply appropriate Geir's assets (his NPCs, ships, bases, etc.) and install new leadership to Imperial Intelligence. Seeing as the Moff Council will be undergoing some changes post-timeskip, and following Geir's rather disastrous demise, I doubt the Emperor would ever leave a Moff in control of Intelligence again.

As a side note, I'm considering making a thread detailing the NPC side of the Empire, just so that everyone knows what the Empire has, even if it can't/isn't being roleplayed.

@Darasuum

 

[Darasuum]

Yeah, while SIN might dissolve, the Empire would simply appropriate Geir's assets (his NPCs, ships, bases, etc.) and install new leadership to Imperial Intelligence. Seeing as the Moff Council will be undergoing some changes post-timeskip, and following Geir's rather disastrous demise, I doubt the Emperor would ever leave a Moff in control of Intelligence again.

As a side note, I'm considering making a thread detailing the NPC side of the Empire, just so that everyone knows what the Empire has, even if it can't/isn't being roleplayed.

@Darasuum

yeah makes sense. i think the stuff that a person could leave in his will would qualify as private possession rather than imperial assets. THOSE things would go to individuals. of course you and i have already talked about this somewhat @Malon but those things i'll bring to you on a case by case basis.

 

[TheMorrigan]

Since arriving here and discovering various Imperial things and whatnot, along with Vrist's Research into the Force, he would not be opposed to contributing as he can. However I don't think I would have the financial backing of the Chiss Ascendancy without the Moff of Csilla's approval.

That being said, if you would rather set a Sith on the Intelligence Chair, that is completely understandable (especially considering the considerable setbacks that both the Moff Council bombing and SIN has created. At least, that I OOC am aware of)