Emilia Shields
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To be honest, they kind of did. Especially @Marf's comment. This is character is at least somewhat insulting, to basically every girl that ever existed. Not every girl wants to be a princess. Not every girl wants to bake. Even at 6 I had things I liked more than others. True, dress up in a cool dress was fun to me back then, and still is, but I was more of the dragon and swords type girl and I still am. So saying sterotypical things is completely ridiculous and downright insulting to all the females on this site.
Okay, even if she's 6 she's still going to have hopes and dreams and goals that are realistic. I'm not quite sure where she is during the Sith training, but come on, she has to know at least a couple people. Or maybe she's the adventurous type. Or the type that likes to get in trouble. Think outside the box.
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I dont see any body being inappropriate here. They are just bringing up very valid points. Playing a Kid is hard and difficult to pule off. It is nor impossible. I have a young ex Padawan. But telling people not to voice there thoughts is going to only result in morre people voiceing there thoughts.
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Okay wait a minute.. first and foremost, the fact that all of you are generalizing this girl as a stereotype is an ignorant perspective. The concept of RP and character creation is to make something unique and personable to you. So when a character surfaces that can be defined "stereotypical," you're quick to riticule and judge. There are valid points, but the manner in which the points and criticism was expressed was insulting to the creator of this character. You took what something that made @fitachi excited to RP and forced her to change something more fitting to your image.
My opinion is this. So what if this girl likes dresses, teddy bears, and pink dresses? While there are plenty of girls who didnt fall into this stereotype growing up, there are just as many that do. The point of this character being the age she is, is to be molded, manipulated, and transformed into something different by the Sith and there is NOTHING wrong with the creator wanting to RP that. Not every character introduced to the Sith has to be a dark, brooding, sociopath.
With that said, Im not going to say her life will be easy as the Sith prizes strength power and those that yearn to grasp it, which it doesnt sound like she fits into this. But @fitachi sure as hell should be allowed to RP it out without feeling judged for playing a character she created. There are dozens of people here that vary in creative talent.
My rant is over and sorry @fitachi for using this thread as the source. I just felt inclined to defend what you made and encourage you to play the character as you made it. Feedback is helpful and yes, the character can benefit from some development and depth.. but dont change the design because some people are unhappy with her liking princesses and dresses and becoming a sith.
My opinion is this. So what if this girl likes dresses, teddy bears, and pink dresses? While there are plenty of girls who didnt fall into this stereotype growing up, there are just as many that do. The point of this character being the age she is, is to be molded, manipulated, and transformed into something different by the Sith and there is NOTHING wrong with the creator wanting to RP that. Not every character introduced to the Sith has to be a dark, brooding, sociopath.
With that said, Im not going to say her life will be easy as the Sith prizes strength power and those that yearn to grasp it, which it doesnt sound like she fits into this. But @fitachi sure as hell should be allowed to RP it out without feeling judged for playing a character she created. There are dozens of people here that vary in creative talent.
My rant is over and sorry @fitachi for using this thread as the source. I just felt inclined to defend what you made and encourage you to play the character as you made it. Feedback is helpful and yes, the character can benefit from some development and depth.. but dont change the design because some people are unhappy with her liking princesses and dresses and becoming a sith.
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I feel her response to criticism was justified. The feedback provided was not constructive and was more attacking the fact that the character liked dresses and princesses than helping the creator improve in the areas the posters had issues with. Providing criticism is one thing but when it is in regards to art or writing, the best sort of criticism are the those in which the artist can do something with. All im seeing is "wow... just wow," and "I find this character distasteful." Statements like these shroud all other feedback as it no longer is supportive or helpful but an attack on the work itself.
@fitachi was not rude in their reply. They were upset and hurt and was basically telling people to stop. They never turned down feedback itself, just the manner in which it was being expressed.
@fitachi was not rude in their reply. They were upset and hurt and was basically telling people to stop. They never turned down feedback itself, just the manner in which it was being expressed.
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There was definitely more than one post and even if there was the one, the manner in which it was addressed was unprofessional before the OC even replied. Either way, my issue isnt to dispute the posters response to criticism but how that criticism was handled and expressed as a whole
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personally I think she is to young simply because of the lack of posting partners and stories to partake. most of the site is focused on pvp and battle so she will be on the outskirts of that mostly. being very young she qualifies for few things and most of that would be social threads where the other char literally talks to and interacts with a six year old. I know a few of those and it's not very exiliarating tbh.
but if you want to write her go a head. it's your right to play a char that you like and if others don't aprove they can do so but they should not try to force their views on you. I think that is a reasonable request.
eidt: I've seen an infant written better than a lot of people would be able to write an adult char. maybe just let the writer do his thing. should he notice that its not the right char he will resign it. but let him find out at least.
but if you want to write her go a head. it's your right to play a char that you like and if others don't aprove they can do so but they should not try to force their views on you. I think that is a reasonable request.
eidt: I've seen an infant written better than a lot of people would be able to write an adult char. maybe just let the writer do his thing. should he notice that its not the right char he will resign it. but let him find out at least.
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Rin, I did not, at any point in my statement tell Fitachi to change their character, nor did I ridicule them, what I posted was my own opinion and concerns in a manner which was pretty constructive I would say - Fitachi's response to the member's feedback was beyond rude and insulting. Little girls can like feminine things such as pink and princesses etc, there's nothing wrong with that, but even if they do, they're more complex than that, they have nuances and a psyche just like adults. The profile previously only focused only on the stereotypical things without much else, which gave a rather problematic and generalized impression of young girls. I'm happy to see that Fitachi has taken it upon them self to improve the profile in that regard and I apologize, @fitachi, if my previous comment was overly harsh, I was tired and recovering from a horrid panic attack >.>
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Its okay Marf, there were just some choice words in your critique that could be perceived as a little too harsh and judgmental, but the overall critique was perspective. I just felt there was too much attacking on the character and the thread was less focused on being productive. I think everything's good now though :)
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I just want to chime in real quick here and say this:
Marf, in this one sentence you entirely devalued the work of the writer by defining their character as a stereotype.
That, in my very humble opinion, was rude.
As a generalized statement, I believe what has happened here is that the lines between a character and their author were blurred when personal preference outran the objective lens. It seems people have assumed that what the character thought and felt were meant to be interpreted as being fitachi's personal views. I don't intend to speak for fitachi on the matter, but I rather doubt they are incapable of rationalizing that not all little girls like pink dresses and princesses. They were, I'm fairly certain, merely conveying their character's personal thoughts on the matter.
And if you would really like to break it down to brass tacks, every character on this site is a stereotype of some sort. All Sith have anger issues or abusive pasts - stereotypical tropes we expect to (and often do) see portrayed in them. Does that make them any less valid as characters? I don't think so.
Overall, the tenor of the criticism on this profile, in addition to being unprovoked, began as vaguely hostile and mildly abusive towards the writer by deriding them for writing a character that fit into a particular box.
Marf, in this one sentence you entirely devalued the work of the writer by defining their character as a stereotype.
That, in my very humble opinion, was rude.
As a generalized statement, I believe what has happened here is that the lines between a character and their author were blurred when personal preference outran the objective lens. It seems people have assumed that what the character thought and felt were meant to be interpreted as being fitachi's personal views. I don't intend to speak for fitachi on the matter, but I rather doubt they are incapable of rationalizing that not all little girls like pink dresses and princesses. They were, I'm fairly certain, merely conveying their character's personal thoughts on the matter.
And if you would really like to break it down to brass tacks, every character on this site is a stereotype of some sort. All Sith have anger issues or abusive pasts - stereotypical tropes we expect to (and often do) see portrayed in them. Does that make them any less valid as characters? I don't think so.
Overall, the tenor of the criticism on this profile, in addition to being unprovoked, began as vaguely hostile and mildly abusive towards the writer by deriding them for writing a character that fit into a particular box.
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fitachi
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To light up a few things, that were mentioned by others, but not yet told by me. Yes, when I said 'all girls would like...' or something within that direction. I meant it as a thought of my own character, like Andrewza I have also dyslexia and read it in a clear way for me. Sorry for that mix-up.
My reaction to you guys was rather impulsive and sorry for that. @Rin perfectly described why I reacted in such a way. Thank you for clearing that up.
@Marf it's okay =3
Now hopefully we can all be friends or allies cause sith's have no friends =3
My reaction to you guys was rather impulsive and sorry for that. @Rin perfectly described why I reacted in such a way. Thank you for clearing that up.
@Marf it's okay =3
Now hopefully we can all be friends or allies cause sith's have no friends =3