Force Sensitive Clone?

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Title pretty much says it all. Is it possible for a clone to be Force Sensitive? Specifically according to New Canon, since I plan on making one of my characters for the new timeline an ex-Jedi turned bounty hunter who finds out he's actually one of many clones and goes on a hunt for them and his "father."
 

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I actually believe cloning force sensitives was impossible at least it took a long time, and usually the clones went insane. This is from the legend canon but I think the rule of that still applies for Disney canon
 

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This might be a good question for an Admin like @Brandon Rhea or @Green Ranger. To my Knowledge (mostly the movies and TCW) there is nothing in the new canon that says it's not possible. Starkiller is I think EU so doesn't count. I personally like the idea and thought of using the same for a story twist.
 

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At the moment Legends is the only thing you can pull from in regards to cloning a force sensitive. If you've ever played TFU you'll know that it usually doesn't work out very well, and you'd need the $$$ and resources only the Empire can provide.

And then the clones will still go insane and try to kill you. Lol
 

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At the moment Legends is the only thing you can pull from in regards to cloning a force sensitive. If you've ever played TFU you'll know that it usually doesn't work out very well, and you'd need the $$$ and resources only the Empire can provide.

And then the clones will still go insane and try to kill you. Lol
Good luck keeping that giant-ass cloning facility a secret.

Not all clones will develop mental instability. The risk increases the faster you grow them and whether or not you use memory imprinting. Cloning a force-sensitive is a lot different from cloning 'normal' individuals like the clone troopers from the Clone Wars. If I can remember from reading Wookieepedia, somewhere it said that a force-sensitive clone's presence in the force was off and felt weird, like the force didn't fully accept the clone's existence. Maybe that would mean that if you tried to make a bunch of FS clones not all would come out force sensitive? Don't know if I'm 100% right on all that, so take it as you will.
 

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Depends what the admins says. I am pretty sure i saw a rule saying cloning characters is banned
 

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Depends what the admins says. I am pretty sure i saw a rule saying cloning characters is banned
No, it is. Cloning to circumvent a PC death and say, "lol, look, he's alive again so I can keep playing them!" is not.

Taken from the Timeline Technologies sticky thread in the Story forum, emphasis added:
Misc.

-Personal Cloaking Devices that provide full invisibility and/or immunity to sensors are not allowed.
-Personal Cloaks that provide adaptive camouflage [Think 'Predator'] may be used if cleared with an admin. (Approval in the tech board counts.)
-A broad range of Cybernetic implants are available, but they are expensive.
-Nanotechnology is available, but it is somewhat primitive and expensive.
-Nanite-based weapons are not available [nor allowed] at this time.
-Cloning is allowed.
-Cloning to circumvent character death is NOT allowed.

-Genetic Engineering is allowed.
@Enzo
 

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*ahem

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This might be a good question for an Admin like @Brandon Rhea or @Green Ranger. To my Knowledge (mostly the movies and TCW) there is nothing in the new canon that says it's not possible. Starkiller is I think EU so doesn't count. I personally like the idea and thought of using the same for a story twist.

Starkiller is where I got the whole "cloned FS" idea from. My character would be unique, however, and be the only one of the batch that turned out to be FS, and was thus sent off to the Jedi to be trained, but the reasons behind this will be unknown up until the "climax" of my character's story.

At the moment Legends is the only thing you can pull from in regards to cloning a force sensitive. If you've ever played TFU you'll know that it usually doesn't work out very well, and you'd need the $$$ and resources only the Empire can provide.

And then the clones will still go insane and try to kill you. Lol

Good luck keeping that giant-ass cloning facility a secret.

Not all clones will develop mental instability. The risk increases the faster you grow them and whether or not you use memory imprinting. Cloning a force-sensitive is a lot different from cloning 'normal' individuals like the clone troopers from the Clone Wars. If I can remember from reading Wookieepedia, somewhere it said that a force-sensitive clone's presence in the force was off and felt weird, like the force didn't fully accept the clone's existence. Maybe that would mean that if you tried to make a bunch of FS clones not all would come out force sensitive? Don't know if I'm 100% right on all that, so take it as you will.

Yup, I knew about the insanity part. Was considering on using that as a sort of plot twist. Maybe the reason my character found out about his true heritage and is going on a killing spree against his "family" is because he's going insane due to the complications of cloning a FS?

Depends what the admins says. I am pretty sure i saw a rule saying cloning characters is banned

Not cloning an established character. The character will be a clone of an NPC, which his goal will be killing said NPC and all the other clones, making him the only one left. I'm not planning on using the clones to make my character "immortal," don't worry.
 

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@StandbyRanger I don't know if cloning FS is what makes them become mentally unstable--I think it's the rate at with you try and grow them and how aggressively you use memory implants. Most of the Galen Marek clones, for example, were deemed failures and mentally unstable because they couldn't distinguish between the prime clone's (original individual that provided the genetic material) memories/emotions and their own. Even Starkiller was in love with Juno Eclipse because Marek was.
 

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Keep in mind that cloning is not very clear in the official (new) canon. I believe, although the Clone Wars series expanded on it a bit with Sifo-Dyas, that we know the Kaminoans were good at cloning, presumably for a long time. But we don't know how long they had been good at it and/or if other places had that technology. That said, one could assume that multiple cultures had the technology. *shrug* So it could very well be that cloning is not an option in the new TL. Apologies in advance if I'm missing a canon detail, but thought I'd raise the point.
 

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One could split the difference and just give him a mental disorder like bi polar or multiple personalities. Doesn't have to go nuts just be flawed.
 

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This is interesting @StandbyRanger I myself had a similar idea, minus the cloning.

My character and another members character, will be raised in a training lab of sorts. Were they will be raised to become killers by a "Mysterious organisation" who, upon completion of the 18 years of training will be realesead upon the galaxy to do this "organisations" bidding.

Initally we decided we would be assassin's, but we have decided that we should say this "organisation" also makes other things, warriors, sorcerers, spies and assassin's.

Check out this link and maybe all three of us can do this together. Like I said it might peek your interest cause I think our two ideas are kinda similar. And we have a PM going with many more ideas, so don't think this thread is final, it's just what I initally put together.

So if your interested, there will be three of us.

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/index.php?threads/mr-bossmans-boss-plan.62594/#post-1206854
 

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@StandbyRanger I don't know if cloning FS is what makes them become mentally unstable--I think it's the rate at with you try and grow them and how aggressively you use memory implants. Most of the Galen Marek clones, for example, were deemed failures and mentally unstable because they couldn't distinguish between the prime clone's (original individual that provided the genetic material) memories/emotions and their own. Even Starkiller was in love with Juno Eclipse because Marek was.

Ah, now that makes sense. I was always a little clouded on what exactly made clones go "insane." Thanks for clearing it up for me!

This is interesting @StandbyRanger I myself had a similar idea, minus the cloning.

My character and another members character, will be raised in a training lab of sorts. Were they will be raised to become killers by a "Mysterious organisation" who, upon completion of the 18 years of training will be realesead upon the galaxy to do this "organisations" bidding.

Initally we decided we would be assassin's, but we have decided that we should say this "organisation" also makes other things, warriors, sorcerers, spies and assassin's.

Check out this link and maybe all three of us can do this together. Like I said it might peek your interest cause I think our two ideas are kinda similar. And we have a PM going with many more ideas, so don't think this thread is final, it's just what I initally put together.

So if your interested, there will be three of us.

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/index.php?threads/mr-bossmans-boss-plan.62594/#post-1206854

While your idea seems really cool Bossman, I don't see my character fitting in with this. My character would be on his own, seeking to bring fame to "his" name, and killing his "brothers" and "father" to become his own person again. The Jedi background is also important to his development, as he keeps his ligthsaber in the hopes he'll be able to go back to what his life once was, before the whole clone business.
 
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