Fourth of July.

[Matt]

Americans don't care, just like the British probably don't care.

I found one plonka who does.

I'm confused as to how us achieving our goals, burning a countries capital down and having less people killed is losing....

 

[Cailst]

Great Britain and Canada obviously won the war of 1812. Great Britain's only objective throughout the war was to retain control of Canada. It really had no intention to conquer the United States. The Americans, on the other hand, sought to annex Canada to secure its border. Since they failed miserably to achieve their goal, it can be said that the Canadians and the British won.

/end of discussion.

WE RULE.

Happy Canada Day.

And thank you Great Britain for making such a great country as Canada.

While they largely defended Canada apart from the burning of Toronto, they then went on the offensive in an attempt to make the peace terms harsh on the Americans. Since they were repulsed in their counter offensive, the war was pretty much a tie. Similar to the Iraqi-Iranian war where Iraq attacked, Iran defended and counter attacked, Iraq defended and it ended in a stalemate.

 

[Viggy]

While they largely defended Canada apart from the burning of Toronto, they then went on the offensive in an attempt to make the peace terms harsh on the Americans. Since they were repulsed in their counter offensive, the war was pretty much a tie. Similar to the Iraqi-Iranian war where Iraq attacked, Iran defended and counter attacked, Iraq defended and it ended in a stalemate.

But Britain did everything it set out to do, lost way less in the war then the USA did, and burnt down the freakin White House. While fighting a whole other war back in Europe. That isn't a tie, that's the USA getting buttraped.

 

[Jabberwocky]

While they largely defended Canada apart from the burning of Toronto, they then went on the offensive in an attempt to make the peace terms harsh on the Americans. Since they were repulsed in their counter offensive, the war was pretty much a tie. Similar to the Iraqi-Iranian war where Iraq attacked, Iran defended and counter attacked, Iraq defended and it ended in a stalemate.

You're sooooooo boring, calist. Stop being so boring.

 

[Cailst]

But Britain did everything it set out to do, lost way less in the war then the USA did, and burnt down the freakin White House. While fighting a whole other war back in Europe. That isn't a tie, that's the USA getting buttraped.

If it had simply sat in Canada and simply patched up Toronto, then I suppose it would have won. However, they went on the counter offensive, burned a white house down but was repulsed on three separate fronts. At Plattsburg near Lake Champlain, famously at Fort McHenry, and at New Orleans. And that was after Napoleon was sent to Elba and before his return which meant that some vets were able to go to America. Since America repulsed the counter-attack, I would say it was more or less a tie.

 

[Ser Yorick]

You're all forgetting a crucial detail. The war was over before the fighting stopped. The treaty was signed, but seeing as the intarwebs had yet to be invented, word didn't reach the Canadian forces before they went and tore some shit down on their way south, then ran into some problems, and retreated, having done enough damage. It was a ridiculous war, and a really bad idea on the American side.

 

[Sovereign]

If it had simply sat in Canada and simply patched up Toronto, then I suppose it would have won. However, they went on the counter offensive, burned a white house down but was repulsed on three separate fronts. At Plattsburg near Lake Champlain, famously at Fort McHenry, and at New Orleans. And that was after Napoleon was sent to Elba and before his return which meant that some vets were able to go to America. Since America repulsed the counter-attack, I would say it was more or less a tie.

How was it a tie? The Americans tried to invade Canada and they failed horribly. Canada continued to be British and to this day, we still have the Queen as our head of state. Just because Britain lost a few battles doesn't make it a tie. The U.S lost plenty of battles in the Ardennes before the end of WW2, yet their objective was to defeat Nazi Germany. They've succeeded in reaching this and thus it can be said that the U.S and its allies won WW2. Yet the same cannot be said for the war of 1812. The U.S did not manage to capture Canada or do any of the thing which was originally intended. Thus the U.S lost the war.

 

[Cailst]

How was it a tie? The Americans tried to invade Canada and they failed horribly. Canada continued to be British and to this day, we still have the Queen as our head of state. Just because Britain lost a few battles doesn't make it a tie. The U.S lost plenty of battles in the Ardennes before the end of WW2, yet their objective was to defeat Nazi Germany. They've succeeded in reaching this and thus it can be said that the U.S and its allies won WW2. Yet the same cannot be said for the war of 1812. The U.S did not manage to capture Canada or do any of the thing which was originally intended. Thus the U.S lost the war.

Yes, you did manage to maintain your servitude to britain which was its first goal. However, Britain did go on the counter-offensive and failed to achieve its newly acquired goal of making really bad peace terms for the Americans. As we failed in our first set of goals, we adopted a new set which included throwing back any british invasions. Since both sides succeeded repelling the other's invasions, it was a tie.

 

[Slacious_Crumb]

Trying to avoid being dragged to do something for the fourth of July. I don't understand this patriotism...

 

[Neutrino]

I'm partying early.

 

[Niner]

I am going to dress like this

Grab an American Flag and wave it around tearfully while the National Anthem is playing and then hold the flag high and shoot an M-16 with the other......:CStern:




Prolly just pick up so fireworks and blow shit up.

 

[Wing]

Whoo! America!

 

[Enishi]

Block party. Nuff said

 

[Phil]

I'm going to attend the town Parade in 6 hours.

 

[Cailst]

Probably going down to the beach and watching some fireworks.

 

[Ser Yorick]

I'll probably ignore this day.

 

[Sovereign]

Happy Fillipino-American friendship day!

 

[Adamis]

Question: do the people in Alaska still have fireworks for the Fourth of July? Just wondering since they only have like 1 hour of night-time this time of year and it doesn't begin until like 1:30am.

 

[Cody]

I'll go hang out with some friends; no fireworks for us, though. It's too dry because of that damned drought.

 

[Jenerix525]

Grab an American Flag and wave it around tearfully while the National Anthem is playing and then hold the flag high and shoot an M-16 with the other......:CStern:
Prolly just pick up so fireworks and blow shit up.

I would do both of these, right after flying to the USA specifically for the blowing up part.:CHappy:
Okay, it's actually three things but the flag isn't important.