Killer Cop Walks Free After Eric Garner Verdict

[Logan]

How can you not see a pattern? How many black people need to die before you recognize that there might be a problem with policing in America?

The question was rhetorical, by the way. You're clearly racist, so I'm not expecting you to use logic/empathy.

You're an idiot.

Let's stop sugar coating things and use words that describe what actually happened. If you apprehend someone, it generally means that person is still alive.

And like I said earlier, I'm speaking in terms of more than just the particular instance discussed in this thread. If the officer in question here had racial motivations, which it seems he clearly did, then he should be held responsible for that.

But not all white/black black/white altercations are fueled by race.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

 

[Clayton]

You're an idiot.



And like I said earlier, I'm speaking in terms of more than just the particular instance discussed in this thread. If the officer in question here had racial motivations, which it seems he clearly did, then he should be held responsible for that.

But not all white/black black/white altercations are fueled by race.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

So why the hell are you complaining that this story is in existence?

 

[Logan]

So why the hell are you complaining that this story is in existence?

If you would actually read what I say instead of filtering it into "blahblahracistblahblah" you'd see I was complaining about all of the stories that are not legitimate and are simply using the current hot button topic to jettison their bullshit into pseudostardom on Facebook and Twitter.

 

[TWD26]

I saw the video of this one and it was some major use of excessive force by the police.

 

[Sovereign]

If you would actually read what I say instead of filtering it into "blahblahracistblahblah" you'd see I was complaining about all of the stories that are not legitimate and are simply using the current hot button topic to jettison their bullshit into pseudostardom on Facebook and Twitter.

Which stories?

 

[Clayton]

If you would actually read what I say instead of filtering it into "blahblahracistblahblah" you'd see I was complaining about all of the stories that are not legitimate and are simply using the current hot button topic to jettison their bullshit into pseudostardom on Facebook and Twitter.

So you hijacked a legitimate story to complain about other stuff and not contribute anything meaningful to the topic at hand which is the Eric Garner case?

 

[Logan]

So you hijacked a legitimate story to complain about other stuff and not contribute anything meaningful to the topic at hand which is the Eric Garner case?

/sigh

No.

I can see why unless your opinion is conclusive with the majority that speaking in the current affairs board is trite.

 

[Sovereign]

/sigh

No.

I can see why unless your opinion is conclusive with the majority that speaking in the current affairs board is trite.

So far, you haven't named any of the other "stories."

Nice trolling there.

 

[Liam]

So far, you haven't named any of the other "stories."

Nice trolling there.

Does this count?

 

[Bee]

Does this count?

☐ Not REKT
☑ REKT

 

[Clayton]

/sigh

No.

I can see why unless your opinion is conclusive with the majority that speaking in the current affairs board is trite.

" ..to bring criminal charges in the death of Eric Garner, a black man who died after being placed in a chokehold by a white police officer."

Can it not just be "man" and "officer"?

All of this is getting ****ing stupid.

I can see why a story about a racially motivated murder(manslaughter at least) shouldn't focus on race. Because it really sounded like you were saying "I don't see how it's racism....All these stories are falsely reported racism..." even when the killing was clearly racially motivated, then when we called you out, AND providing evidence, on that you knee-jerked into saying "oh you just think I'm racist" without giving any sort of evidence/proof/weight to your argument.

So, not all these White Cop Kills Black Guy stories are actually racially motivated? What are your sources for that?

 

[Sovereign]

Does this count?

So a white cop shot and killed a black child, and this is supposed to be an example of an instance where race isn't involved? Right.

 

[Logan]

I can see why a story about a racially motivated murder(manslaughter at least) shouldn't focus on race. Because it really sounded like you were saying "I don't see how it's racism....All these stories are falsely reported racism..." even when the killing was clearly racially motivated, then when we called you out, AND providing evidence, on that you knee-jerked into saying "oh you just think I'm racist" without giving any sort of evidence/proof/weight to your argument.

So, not all these White Cop Kills Black Guy stories are actually racially motivated? What are your sources for that?

If you are actually in the mindset that if a white cop arrests or shoots to kill a nonwhite it HAS to be racially motivated than there's no point to this conversation. Applying that sort of universality to all situations like this is not only inane, but ludicrous.

 

[Clayton]

If you are actually in the mindset that if a white cop arrests or shoots to kill a nonwhite it HAS to be racially motivated than there's no point to this conversation. Applying that sort of universality to all situations like this is not only inane, but ludicrous.

You seem to be under the impression that 100% of white-cop kills black-dude instances make the mainstream media, rather than exceptional cases, like when a known racist cop kills a black guy. Now if that isn't ludicrous, I don't know what is.

Again, make a damn case with supporting evidence instead of throwing mud around, hoping it sticks.

EDIT:

Here, I'll provide evidence that not all instances are reported as racism by the media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM4kyiHSY2w (NSFW, man gets shot, fair warning)

Cop made the right choice (assuming you don't believe cops should be unarmed in the first place), look at the guy's right hand after he falls. It didn't really make the news because it wasn't racism.

 

[BLADE]

This is how you know Americans are still super-racist: when white-as-paneer-cheese white people are spouting off about "privilege" as if it's some kind of weird Diablo III boss (hint: use macros) and when people legitimately take like four pages of "a black person was murdered by a known white supremacist" and turn it into "I am the victim because there are TOO MANY OF THESE STORIES."

There's actually a long history of white people's sensibilities guiding and turning race brutality into something genteel. Did you know many black leaders at the turn of the 20th century (not all of them, like my personal hero Ida Tarbell, mind you) actually suggested that lynching was the natural white response to "negro licentiousness?"

Truefax.

So I dunno. When I look at data that suggests that black people are twenty-one times as likely as white people to be shot and killed by a police officer, I kinda wonder if maybe race has something to do with it?

 

[Raydo]

Racist spotted.

Here is the definition of Racism:

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

Nothing in the comment from Relent that you quoted describes the above definition. If you're going to insult someone for disagreeing with you, at least find a word that actually fits the comment you are referring to. Otherwise you just seem ignorant (Ill provide the definition below in case you don't know)

ig·no·rant
ˈiɡnərənt/

lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular.

informal
discourteous or rude.

 

[TWD26]

^shots fired ;)

 

[Brandon Rhea]

That's more of an old school definition of racism. I'll quote myself:

There's also a general misunderstanding of what racism generally means. In 2014, racism generally isn't "I hate _____," it's more insidious than that. It's creeping biases, like assuming a black person is a danger to you - which doesn't automatically mean you hate black people, it means you have a racial bias. Racism is also a systemic issue of injustice and oppression. So I think white people need to stop hearing words like "white privilege" and "racism" and automatically thinking that it means they're being accused of hating black people. Defensive white people are part of the problem, because it blinds them and they make kneejerk reactions.

 

[Raydo]

With "your definition" of racism it becomes impossible for anyone to defend themselves against being labeled as a racist. You call me a racist (Whether you have any right to or not) and I say "No I am not because..." and you just call me a defensive white man and I am actually part of the problem. You also include "White" in your definition making impossible for anyone who is not white to be a racist (Which I think we all believe is not true) meaning that in your definition you assign a negative characteristic to an entire race and then say anyone who defends themselves from that label actually proves your point. That is by definition (The actual one), racism.

These terms are used to bully people into agreeing with them and anyone who has differing opinions can be slapped with a negative label and cast aside.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Racism, as a system of oppression, disenfranchisement, marginalization, etc. isn't something that minorities can engage in against white people because there is no systemic oppression, disenfranchisement, marginalization, etc. of white people.

You're thinking of prejudice. That's something anyone can engage in.

And I didn't call Relent a racist. I will, however, point out defensive white people, or a defensive white culture, and how that contributes to a racist system. Which is passively racist.