Obama's in School Speech

[The Count of Monte Cristo]

Well I can only find a Yahoo article of it right now, but I will look for more.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/20090903/pl_ynews/ynews_pl888_1

It is silly to be sending out so much about it. Giving teachers questions to talk to the students about? That is a waste of time. Especially to the elementary and middle/junior high school levels. Little kids should be allowed to be kids, and not have to deal with politics, and this is a topic I see that parents should talk to their children about if they want their children to know about it. Then middle schoolers are not mature enough, they do not understand the world of politics well enough, sure there are a few, but the message won't hit home to most.
High schools should make the choice to do it, and give students the right to opt out if they want to. High school students, mainly the upperclassmen, will understand the speech more. But it should not take over a class, the speech shouldn't leave a teacher without class time, and the questions really should be up to a teacher. Honestly if I was a teach and unless it was US History, Civics and Government, Criminology, Economics and other Social Studies classes dealing with America, governments, and the like, I wouldn't talk about it.
Even then I think it will push too much political views on students.

 

[Caleb]

I think the concept is designed to cultivate a desire for civic service and closer connection with elected officials--in a similar vein to many of JFK's initiatives. How it ends up being implemented is what concerns me. Some of the reports of the "guided curriculum" are troubling.

 

[Teck923]

one hour? That's it my school is dedicating only 5 period to it and thats fine. I am a Sophmore and I would love to hear what he has to say. And Teens and kids should know more about politics.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Completely and utterly absurd.

 

[Caleb]

Completely and utterly absurd.

In principle or execution?

 

[Brandon Rhea]

In principle or execution?

Both.

 

[Sovereign]

Couldn't care less.

 

[Random Hero]

EDIT: Reworded my response.

I think it is fine to talk to high school kids. They are old enough to choose what they believe and form their own opinions. Plus they are getting close to the age of voting and should start learning a bit about politics.

However, talking to small children about politics and such should be left up to the parents and parents alone. They are too young to form their own opinions. Not to mention a small child probably would not understand most of it.

My parents rarely talked politics in front of me until I was about ten, then I really didn't get to learning about it until I was about sixteen.

 

[The Count of Monte Cristo]

one hour? That's it my school is dedicating only 5 period to it and thats fine. I am a Sophmore and I would love to hear what he has to say. And Teens and kids should know more about politics.

Yeah but will they understand it? The middle school age kids are obsessed with Obama because he is half black, and the fact that they think what he is doing is awesome even though they do not understand or realize any of the consequences, or cost of it.
Then little Elementary schoolers? They won't understand it well enough. Little kids should be allowed to run around and learn things instead of learning about something will probably not remember. Remember kids have short attention spans. They won't learn much, especially in a speech. Didn't you notice that kids get a lot of easy worksheets that are short?

In High school, it would be understood, but I still feel one hour will rob teachers of teaching time if the school mandates it.

Completely and utterly absurd.

Bac would you care to elaborate? I'm actually interested in what you think.

 

[Venom]

I dont mind that he is doing it.

 

[Ru the Boatswain]

obemeeeeee

 

[Ka've]

The middle school age kids are obsessed with Obama because he is half black,

Thats a very rash statement...

In High school, it would be understood, but I still feel one hour will rob teachers of teaching time if the school mandates it.

I'm sure a hour won't kill them...

 

[havikk]

this is all I have to say. He should not be getting involved in the public school system the way he is, School is a state right. If he does get involved then he should be involved as a role model and thats it.

 

[Ka've]

I think the kids can and will get a lot from it. Our president is telling them to stand up for their country. He's vocalizing points that really need to be addressed. We do have poor schools. Ignoring them hasn't worked, so now he's addressing them. I think its a smart move.

Who knows? Maybe it'll work. I doubt anyone here has stopped going to school anyway, so you wouldn't understand. It might mean a lot to someone to hear their president talking to them..yeah school sucks but we really need you to step up right now. To drop out is not only a failure to you, but to your country.

 

[Sovereign]

He's the ****ing president of the United States.

I don't see anything wrong with asking students to do some sort of assignment, even though they aren't even being forced to do it.

 

[The Lionheart]

It's not going to do much around here. Everyone around here (East Tennessee) is Hell-bent on believing that Obama is the anti-christ and has done nothing good for our country. I still remember during election time a bumper sticker that said 'TN is for God, not Obama.' *smacks face*

They actually sent us letters about this the other day in school. It's not going to do jack shit. Kids don't care about school; they don't want to care about school. If you ask me, he would have had more luck if he'd gotten Megan Foxx, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, or Hannah *freaking* Montana to do it for him, because as it stands, those are some of the only people that school kids even give a damn about, anymore.

Obama is not going to be the knight in shining armor on a white horse that saves the educational system of America. It's a cultural thing, and until he, or someone else, learns to fix the culture of America, they're never going to fix the schools of America. This is a nice try, sure, but it's still not going to do much.

It's the 'Me Me Me, Now Now Now' generation. According to what we've been told, Obama's going to try to tell school kids, parents, and teachers to 'collaborate for long-term goals.' Kids these days don't care about long-term goals. They want instant gratification, and that's what they've been taught to want. That's not going to change because Obama got on television (though I'm not quite sure that's even how it's going to be done) and told kids the same thing that they've been told, coming in one ear and going out the other, their entire life.

If anything, I'm expecting my entire class, if we're made to watch this, to just talk the entire time. That's what usually goes on whenever anything 'uberly important' is brought to our attention. That, or we look at it, think about it for a second, and then most present forget about it to talk about who's screwing who, how bad the world is, and why we're not going to do jack diddly crap about it.

I have a bad feeling that's the way a lot of kids are going to be about it.

 

[havikk]

I think the kids can and will get a lot from it. Our president is telling them to stand up for their country. He's vocalizing points that really need to be addressed. We do have poor schools. Ignoring them hasn't worked, so now he's addressing them. I think its a smart move.

Who knows? Maybe it'll work. I doubt anyone here has stopped going to school anyway, so you wouldn't understand. It might mean a lot to someone to hear their president talking to them..yeah school sucks but we really need you to step up right now. To drop out is not only a failure to you, but to your country.

Its not that hes talking to the us the students of the US education system. its that hes trying to get the Federal Gov. involved into state rights. School is something that should be left up to the state and the Federal Gov. should have nothing to do with it.

EDIT: if Hanna Montana tried to talk to us.... yea.... no... never would work... ever....

You've never been to my high school have you. Where I live the parents have high expectations for our students to go to college and not to be a bum on the street. Everyone I know expects to go to college and have a good job. sounds pretty long term to me. and its all about living location.

 

[Ka've]

It's not going to do much around here. Everyone around here (East Tennessee) is Hell-bent on believing that Obama is the anti-christ and has done nothing good for our country. I still remember during election time a bumper sticker that said 'TN is for God, not Obama.' *smacks face*

They actually sent us letters about this the other day in school. It's not going to do jack shit. Kids don't care about school; they don't want to care about school. If you ask me, he would have had more luck if he'd gotten Megan Foxx, Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, or Hannah *freaking* Montana to do it for him, because as it stands, those are some of the only people that school kids even give a damn about, anymore.

Obama is not going to be the knight in shining armor on a white horse that saves the educational system of America. It's a cultural thing, and until he, or someone else, learns to fix the culture of America, they're never going to fix the schools of America. This is a nice try, sure, but it's still not going to do much.

It's the 'Me Me Me, Now Now Now' generation. According to what we've been told, Obama's going to try to tell school kids, parents, and teachers to 'collaborate for long-term goals.' Kids these days don't care about long-term goals. They want instant gratification, and that's what they've been taught to want. That's not going to change because Obama got on television (though I'm not quite sure that's even how it's going to be done) and told kids the same thing that they've been told, coming in one ear and going out the other, their entire life.

If anything, I'm expecting my entire class, if we're made to watch this, to just talk the entire time. That's what usually goes on whenever anything 'uberly important' is brought to our attention. That, or we look at it, think about it for a second, and then most present forget about it to talk about who's screwing who, how bad the world is, and why we're not going to do jack diddly crap about it.

I have a bad feeling that's the way a lot of kids are going to be about it.

But thats because people at your school have no respect for Obama. Students that respect him might take it to heart.

Its not that hes talking to the us the students of the US education system. its that hes trying to get the Federal Gov. involved into state rights. School is something that should be left up to the state and the Federal Gov. should have nothing to do with it.

The way I see it, the states have not been doing their job when it comes to education. Its pretty obvious that this hour that the president will address the students won't be used for anything else that will be helpful.

 

[havikk]

well... then talk to your state gov. The Fed. should not be getting involved. Not to mention hes tripled the national debt. is now starting to lose the war and is breaking the laws but in place by the constitution. He just isnt trusted.

 

[Ka've]

well... then talk to your state gov. The Fed. should not be getting involved. Not to mention hes tripled the national debt. is now starting to lose the war and is breaking the laws but in place by the constitution. He just isnt trusted.

Its just a hour I don't see why its such a big deal. Especially if he's addressing nothing that you just talked about.