President Elect: Donald J. Trump

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CommonCore sucks. It's a terrible curriculum that makes very little sense. I've talked to enough teachers and students, as well as my own experience, to get that.

That being said, the curriculum supplied by the county is terrible too. We waste so much money bringing in consultants with the next big thing in education only to use another one the next year. It's inane.

Personally, I think there should be something of a baseline curriculum from the federal government that can then be modified for use by individual states. That way, it's not an incredibly drastic difference from state to state, and we can keep it all factual.

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Outlander in all of our political differences, I like what you just said.
 

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Also I hate to double post but imma do it (Admins don't punish me) and it's about the whole Popular vote went to Hillary and Electoral Vote to Trump thingy we got brewin.

It's gonna be mind bogglingly awesome.

Okay so Hillary won the popular vote by something around 200,000 votes right? So let me ask you this Hillary supporters.

How many illegal aliens do you think voted for Hillary?

I'd be willing to bet money it was somewhere around 200,000. So, if it was, would you count their vote?

The answer is no. So in a way she did not win the popular vote. If said theory is correct.

Which I'm sure it is.
 

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Also I hate to double post but imma do it (Admins don't punish me) and it's about the whole Popular vote went to Hillary and Electoral Vote to Trump thingy we got brewin.

It's gonna be mind bogglingly awesome.

Okay so Hillary won the popular vote by something around 200,000 votes right? So let me ask you this Hillary supporters.

How many illegal aliens do you think voted for Hillary?

I'd be willing to bet money it was somewhere around 200,000. So, if it was, would you count their vote?

The answer is no. So in a way she did not win the popular vote. If said theory is correct.

Which I'm sure it is.
Only citizens can vote and voter fraud is an immensely small problem.

Losing your vote because you have the same name as a convicted felon is a more common problem.
 

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Keh, i don't trust state representatives one bit. I mean, even if the states were way freer than they are now, they'd all be mini-Americas regardless, except always constantly controlled by one political party.

And especially in Republican states (but lets get real, both parties are neocon), education would fall by the wayside. Teachers need to be directly involved in implementing these plans. Education is just too important to leave to stuffed shirts.
 

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Also I hate to double post but imma do it (Admins don't punish me) and it's about the whole Popular vote went to Hillary and Electoral Vote to Trump thingy we got brewin.

It's gonna be mind bogglingly awesome.

Okay so Hillary won the popular vote by something around 200,000 votes right? So let me ask you this Hillary supporters.

How many illegal aliens do you think voted for Hillary?

I'd be willing to bet money it was somewhere around 200,000. So, if it was, would you count their vote?

The answer is no. So in a way she did not win the popular vote. If said theory is correct.

Which I'm sure it is.

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How about, holy crap, let's, let's actually just, sorta, idk, all ik is this is gonna blow your minds

Have educators who directly know the problems in our education system and experience them daily devise the solutions instead of having state or federal politicians throw more money and dumbass ideas at districts expecting them to work?

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However by that same logic food manufacturers shouldn't be regulated as to what they can or can't put in food or drinks because they are the experts. Regulations can be useful at times. Overdone at times? Likely. But giving an entity too much freedom can lead to exploitation. And since the same is said about arguments: you can vote out your local congressman, you can't vote out a mul
Also I hate to double post but imma do it (Admins don't punish me) and it's about the whole Popular vote went to Hillary and Electoral Vote to Trump thingy we got brewin.

It's gonna be mind bogglingly awesome.

Okay so Hillary won the popular vote by something around 200,000 votes right? So let me ask you this Hillary supporters.

How many illegal aliens do you think voted for Hillary?

I'd be willing to bet money it was somewhere around 200,000. So, if it was, would you count their vote?

The answer is no. So in a way she did not win the popular vote. If said theory is correct.

Which I'm sure it is.
with voter registration you can't vote unless you are a citizen
 

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Also I hate to double post but imma do it (Admins don't punish me) and it's about the whole Popular vote went to Hillary and Electoral Vote to Trump thingy we got brewin.

It's gonna be mind bogglingly awesome.

Okay so Hillary won the popular vote by something around 200,000 votes right? So let me ask you this Hillary supporters.

How many illegal aliens do you think voted for Hillary?

I'd be willing to bet money it was somewhere around 200,000. So, if it was, would you count their vote?

The answer is no. So in a way she did not win the popular vote. If said theory is correct.

Which I'm sure it is.
I don't like involving myself in these kind of debates. I prefer to sit back, eat my popcorn, and watch everything burn around me (including my own characters).
But, I simply cannot resist anymore. Thou aforementioned theory is just too unfounded for me to ignore.

Most, if not all, states require voters to provide an identification or proof of citizenship, and not to mention being on the voting roll.

But, can there be narrow loopholes for them? Perhaps. Would it make a big enough difference? Of course not. Why would an illegal immigrant go out their way, risking not only being caught, fined, jailed, whatever, and later deported, to vote for Hillary? I'm quite sure most would rather care to grab a legitimate drivers' license for transportation, or a green card to work, than choosing to participate in this dreadful election, all while risking their livelihood doing so.

In other words: why (or really, how) would 200,000 illegal immigrants go out of their way and risk deportation for a loophole that more than likely doesn't even exist?

What's even more ironic is that Hillary isn't just ahead of the popular vote by 200,000. Current updates now place her at a given 566,434 votes ahead.

Okay, I'm done. Back to lurking.
 

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However by that same logic food manufacturers shouldn't be regulated as to what they can or can't put in food or drinks because they are the experts. Regulations can be useful at times. Overdone at times? Likely. But giving an entity too much freedom can lead to exploitation. And since the same is said about arguments: you can vote out your local congressman, you can't vote out a mul

with voter registration you can't vote unless you are a citizen

Also in the past oh...2 or 3 elections, totaling some couple hundred million votes, we've found ~31 fraudulent votes.
 

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According to the Department of Immigration in January 2010 there were 10.8 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

So you guys are gonna tell me you don't think 200,000 of them came out for Hillary last Tuesday?

Does that seriously seem logical to y'all?
 

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According to the Department of Immigration in January 2010 there were 10.8 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

So you guys are gonna tell me you don't think 200,000 of them came out for Hillary last Tuesday?

Does that seriously seem logical to y'all?

"Also in the past oh...2 or 3 elections, totaling some couple hundred million votes, we've found ~31 fraudulent votes."
 

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According to the Department of Immigration in January 2010 there were 10.8 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

So you guys are gonna tell me you don't think 200,000 of them came out for Hillary last Tuesday?

Does that seriously seem logical to y'all?

Not really. There's no reason for them to.

Obama deported more immigrants than any other president in our history. What makes said illegals think that Hillary, essentially Obama 2.0 Overdrive, will do any better for them?
 

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However by that same logic food manufacturers shouldn't be regulated as to what they can or can't put in food or drinks because they are the experts. Regulations can be useful at times. Overdone at times? Likely. But giving an entity too much freedom can lead to exploitation. And since the same is said about arguments: you can vote out your local congressman, you can't vote out a mul

Oh I'm for standards. We need politics classes mandatory in high school, for instance, so our kids don't grow up dumb concerning our system of government.

I'm saying the problems that can occur need to be addressed by teachers, not by "experts" that haven't stepped foot in a school since they were kids.

And teachers are low wage workers, not high-class companies. They don't have that kind of power to be excessively selfish in that regard, and most want the best for the people they teach. Otherwise they wouldn't have taken their crappy jobs in the first place.
 

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Did you.... seriously suggest that? @Mr.BossMan

Are you trolling here or something?
 

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Not really. There's no reason for them to.

Obama deported more immigrants than any other president in our history. What makes said illegals think that Hillary, essentially Obama 2.0 Overdrive, will do any better for them?

People are idiots, people will vote against their own interests if even a slight possibility of an alignment exists in their eyes. I'm not agreeing with his premise, I find it rather asinine honestly, but people are bad at seeing things against them, especially if they don't want to see it.

Anyways, voter fraud surprisingly isn't much of an issue... Boss, the real thing you can argue is that 200,000 really isn't a lot, notably more so when quite a few of those are from people who live in bubbles who don't quite understand the issues that others face in the country. The electoral college is important because it protects from a tyranny of the majority, it keeps everyone involved(the best it can) with varying issues within the country. We're 50 united, but very different states.

While one vote on person sounds like it's great, fair, and the most democratic thing to do it's honestly unfeasible. Major population centers simply have quite different issues and interests related to them than other areas, and unless we want to delegate further to smaller power structures within the US (which I have no problems with) then we have to have some way of keeping everyone mostly represented in every branch of the government for some simile of fairness.
 

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Also I hate to double post but imma do it (Admins don't punish me) and it's about the whole Popular vote went to Hillary and Electoral Vote to Trump thingy we got brewin.

It's gonna be mind bogglingly awesome.

Okay so Hillary won the popular vote by something around 200,000 votes right? So let me ask you this Hillary supporters.

How many illegal aliens do you think voted for Hillary?

I'd be willing to bet money it was somewhere around 200,000. So, if it was, would you count their vote?

The answer is no. So in a way she did not win the popular vote. If said theory is correct.

Which I'm sure it is.

Okay, so this is the part where you give it up and tell us all this has been some elaborate troll attempt over the past few months.

Please tell us all this has been some elaborate troll attempt over the past few months.
 

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I would like to point out that the electoral college hasn't actually voted yet, and could decided against Trump since they don't all have to follow their constituents.
 

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To be honest, the fact that Trump got elected president when Hillary had more votes is very weird to me as a foreigner, who is used to ---> the one with the most votes wins!
When I see how she got some 400.000 more votes than Trump, she should have won eh? (This is comin' from a Conservative mind you)
 

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It's the electoral college... It's weird, foreigners aren't meant to understand.
 
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