Prudii's Armor

[Outlander]

Mhm. But the way its written is currently a bit ambiguous. And having heavy Durasteel like that would probably hamper movement somewhat.

 

[Kiro]

Just to nitpick a little... but why in the Fraggle Rock would Prudii mess up his gauntlets by lining them with cortosis? An inferior, brittle, even more expensive and equally rare, material, rather than just go pure beskar alloy, as it'd do the job just as well, if not better?

Also, durasteel plates in an armour-weave kama? That seems counter-intuitive to me, as a kama is supposed to be light, and it's original design was to protect the wearer's feet from the wash of one's own jetpack. With plates of a heavy, solid, metal sown in there, you'd keep that thing slapping against the back of your thighs and knees whenever you move, ruining any chance of stealth, ever, and you'd hamper your own ability to crouch or sit down. Armour-weave is protective enough on it's own without adding in more durasteel. More weight.

 

[Prudence]

Just to nitpick a little... but why in the Fraggle Rock would Prudii mess up his gauntlets by lining them with cortosis? An inferior, brittle, even more expensive and equally rare, material, rather than just go pure beskar alloy, as it'd do the job just as well, if not better?

Also, durasteel plates in an armour-weave kama? That seems counter-intuitive to me, as a kama is supposed to be light, and it's original design was to protect the wearer's feet from the wash of one's own jetpack. With plates of a heavy, solid, metal sown in there, you'd keep that thing slapping against the back of your thighs and knees whenever you move, ruining any chance of stealth, ever, and you'd hamper your own ability to crouch or sit down. Armour-weave is protective enough on it's own without adding in more durasteel. More weight.

The purpose of the cortosis on the gauntlets would be saber resistance. It'd just be a lining ontop of the beskar alloy, since the site rules make it seem like beskar alloy isn't even slightly lightsaber resistant. If I'm wrong, just let me know. :)

The Kama bit is from before I specified that it was amrorweave. I'll go edit that bit out.

 

[Outlander]

If the gauntlets are lightsaber resistant, does that affect the entire gauntlet of just certain areas, since it says it's lined with cortosis.

 

[Prudence]

The surface area of the gauntlet is lined in it.

 

[Kiro]

The purpose of the cortosis on the gauntlets would be saber resistance. It'd just be a lining ontop of the beskar alloy, since the site rules make it seem like beskar alloy isn't even slightly lightsaber resistant. If I'm wrong, just let me know. :)

The Kama bit is from before I specified that it was amrorweave. I'll go edit that bit out.

As far as I can remember, beskar alloy is lightsaber resistant. Just not not lightsaber proof like pure beskar. And frankly, adding cortosis would have no real effect, as even cortosis isn't lightsaber proof. A few whacks from a lightsaber and cortosis is no more protective than a lining of graphite. Though, the rules might have changed since last I looked.

And if the beskar alloy isn't lightsaber resistant, and my statement above was in error... then why would Prudii use the alloy at all? There are lighter and more durable materials he could employ in his armour that are far cheaper and more readily available than the alloy.

EDIT:

The surface area of the gauntlet is lined in it.

Prudii, if you mean that the entire surface of the gauntlet has cortosis, and beskar alloy underneath... then the correct term is covered or sheated in cortosis, not lined. Lining implies that it's only along the edges of the gauntlet.

 

[Outlander]

This still seems too light.

 

[Prudence]

As far as I can remember, beskar alloy is lightsaber resistant. Just not not lightsaber proof like pure beskar. And frankly, adding cortosis would have no real effect, as even cortosis isn't lightsaber proof. A few whacks from a lightsaber and cortosis is no more protective than a lining of graphite. Though, the rules might have changed since last I looked.

And if the beskar alloy isn't lightsaber resistant, and my statement above was in error... then why would Prudii use the alloy at all? There are lighter and more durable materials he could employ in his armour that are far cheaper and more readily available than the alloy.

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Prudii, if you mean that the entire surface of the gauntlet has cortosis, and beskar alloy underneath... then the correct term is covered or sheated in cortosis, not lined. Lining implies that it's only along the edges of the gauntlet.

Oooh no I meant covered

 

[Prudence]

This still seems too light.

I'll let Clayton rule on weight. Seeing as it's a plate design itd be FAR lighter than your vagabond.

 

[Outlander]

I'll let Clayton rule on weight. Seeing as it's a plate design itd be FAR lighter than your vagabond.

Fine.

 

[Prudence]

Fine.

15th century armor with much more rudimentary smelting of armor, and far more coverage weighed only 50 kilograms. I think mine is weighted well.

 

[Outlander]

15th century armor with much more rudimentary smelting of armor, and far more coverage weighed only 50 kilograms. I think mine is weighted well.

Materials and Balance.

 

[Prudence]

Materials and Balance.

Elaborate please?

 

[Outlander]

Elaborate please?

1.) The use of heavy materials to block a lot of things.

2.) To balance the armor against similar armors since it seems to offer very good protection against most things for not much weight.

 

[Prudence]

1.) The use of heavy materials to block a lot of things.

2.) To balance the armor against similar armors since it seems to offer very good protection against most things for not much weight.

1. Heavy materials make it heavier by 10+ kilograms than canonical Mandalorian armor
2. It offers Good protection where it covers. Its plates and has LOTS of gaps. And is uncomfortable to wear

 

[Grim]

Alright got a moment to finally look over this and here are my thoughts. This is fairly light for what you are using. Compare that to the GTU armor's I made and its very light for very similar protection. Since Beskar Alloy is only a bit stronger than Durasteel why wouldn't he use that instead since it would be easier to replace the plates since beskar is now nonexistent?

The helmet bro lots going on in there. I find it very had to believe that in a normal Mando-sized helmet that has all that shoved in it. The stim injector I would just outright cut. On the back of the neck there are not many blood vessels and an errant move of the head when it jabs the needle into you could render you paralyzed. I think you are underestimating how much force an Epi-pen like injector actually uses. Next, there is no way in a helmet you have a holonet transceiver, you are looking at a something that is usually the size of a full on backback. Then you have lots of sensors stuffed in there as well. While most are fine to have, the various light filters and what not. Having a motion sensor and then a basic suite on top of that your helmet would have so much information that your 360 view would look like an early 90's website that was covered in annoying popups. At this point you would need a helmet the size of Dark Helmets from space balls if not even bigger than that. Don't even get me started on 30 marked targets, Jango's helmet could only handle at most like five(Star Wars Bounty Hunter), let alone 30. Where is the memory for the AI where is the powersource for the AI. As it is right now your helmet should weight as much as your armor.

Then we get to the jet boots. These things will get you killed. I am guessing that the fuel lines run along the outside of the armor because having rocket fuel near you skin is asking for a massive caustic burn at the least. Your best bet is to have enough fuel on them for a quick burn 30 seconds at the most. Otherwise you are just one big flying incendiary bomb.

 

[Prudence]

Don't hate me, hate the people that wrote Star Wars canon.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mandalorian_armor


Almost EVERYTHING I put in that helmet is straight out of that link. I just listed it granularly.

 

[Grim]

I would like to point out, that this isn't the EU and sometimes things have to be changed. If not half of the PC ships would be packing turbolasers. Not to mention it might have broadband communications but they do not mention access to the holonet or hypercoms. So if you were to have it as the armor lists it you would have: Rangefinder, Comms(maybe longrange, not holo or hyper), A motion sensor, 360, Possibly a Macro(states that there was a special visor for that, think commander cody), and a rebreather. That literally is half the list you have going on.

 

[Prudence]

I would like to point out, that this isn't the EU and sometimes things have to be changed. If not half of the PC ships would be packing turbolasers. Not to mention it might have broadband communications but they do not mention access to the holonet or hypercoms. So if you were to have it as the armor lists it you would have: Rangefinder, Comms(maybe longrange, not holo or hyper), A motion sensor, 360, Possibly a Macro(states that there was a special visor for that, think commander cody), and a rebreather. That literally is half the list you have going on.

Thank you for your input. I value it. However I find the list that I made quite appropriate and reflective of EU standards. We don't know what mind of integrated and all in one chips and cards they had to micronize that. @Clayton do you see any edits I need to make?

 

[Grim]

Whatever you say. I should point out that in ep 1 the Viceroy has to use a droid the size of a black lab for holonet access. So that is how miniature those device are.