Pyrokinesis

[TheBlackace]

So what's the deal with Pyrokinesis

*Canned Laughter*

Is it just like a flamethrower effect from the hand, or is a more true fire manipulation where you can manipulate any source of fire. Or is it both? Or even more? Who knows? I would like to, that's for sure.

 

[Gamov]

According to the wiki article, it does both. Bear in mind that article is labeled "Legends", and thus not (strictly) applicable to the Disney-canon we currently follow. But since we seem to be taking a more "freeform/experiment at your own risk" kind of approach to the Force now, I don't see why you can't use the Legends articles to form a decent basis for what can and can't be done with the Force.

That's my interpretation anyway.

 

[Stormthroe]

I feel it can be both, given the way the Force can work; if you can generate flames from your hand, surely by extending your will onto an existing flame, you can manipulate it to whatever end you desire. Admins get final ruling, but considering all the rest of the crap you can pull with space-wizardry, I wouldn't say its out of the realm of possibility at all.

 

[+SpaceJesus+]

It is usually caused by using the force to vibrate molecules in the air to generate fire. You then control the burning particles and make them do you bidding, whether it be through a concentrated column of fire, or throwing fireballs, etc. It could be used like a flamethrower type thing, yes. I most commonly see it as something like an alternative to force lightning. It could also be used to make certain things spontaneously combust or become ignited. However, making people spontaneously become on fire doesn't seem very fair PvP wise. Basically, the others posting here are right. The way the force works now is that there are a set of base force powers (acrobatics, status effects, mental manipulation, telekinesis are the ones I can think of) that you can work from, and by stretching the context of those powers you can create all kinds of abilities. That's how we are justifying the usage of magic in this timeline as well. In general, pyrokinesis should be possible, and it could be used in almost any way you think of. It's applications are open ended and endless so long as you can justify how it works within the context of the basic force powers (making it a variation of telekinesis for example) and you get admin approval. So just ask before you use it, from both the other PvPers and the admins.

 

[Dakota]

The way I understand it (in this RP anyway) is that fire generated through the Force is basically a quick flamethrower. I'm thinking like a four or five second jet of fire. That's the way I will end up using it, anyway. Unless I get permission from other people in the thread to manipulate flames to help move the story along, I won't force it and I wouldn't expect others to do it that way either. Basically, if you think something's over the top, bring it up to the people who you're writing with.

 

[Kiro]

Well, I'd say that pyrokinesis involves both the creation and manipulation of fire. However, keep in mind that this would be a very taxing and mentally challenging ability, not unlike creating Sith Lightning (I'd personally see it as a variant of that power), where the creation of fire would be even more taxing.

Manipulating might be done halfway on the fly, especially if it's a brief oneshot effect, like making a pilot light billow into a quick flamethrower-esque blasts, sorta like doing a more taxing Force Push. But creating fire out of nowhere and projecting it from the palm of your hand, sorta Palpatine lightning style wouldn't be doable in a heated lightsaber battle. You'd need to get out of range in order to focus long enough to do it. If you tried to create a flamethrower style jet while in melee combat, you'd just get your head chopped off.

EDIT: Sorry if that was rambling and nonsensical, it's 4 in the morning and I should have gone to bed two hours ago.

 

[Tsunami]

Yeah I'd say it was highly taxing also. Unlike lightning which would stop hitting you after you were hit. Fire could burn afterwards without the force influencing it.

Pyro and Cryokinesis are two abilities if find very interesting and strong.

 

[Jax Vos]

I once tried to make an Indie faction with Pyrokinesis as the main focus of the powers of the faction. Being as every major character would have dedicated years to the study of Pyrokinesis I was able to use it in a powerful way, additionally I designed these characters to hide their weaknesses well. But I will say that this power should be used as little as possible.

 

[Green Ranger]

Well, when I was writing up the site guide on Force usage, I envisioned using fire, lightning or...pretty much anything else you can imagine as just a visual manifestation - in other words it's not real flame, just the way you choose to shape the Force energy, so I didn't really imagine that you could use it to set someone on fire - burn them with Force energy, sure, but not turn them into a walking funeral pyre. Another way to explain it is that if you were to use the Force to conjure flames, or lightning, or a bolt of Force energy, then they'd all be classified as 'Force damage', rather than lightning damage, fire damage etc.

I sort of framed it this way for the sake of simplicity, since conjuring an actual elemental attack might be considered unnecessarily complicated. That said, that was just my take on things, and the guide is intended to be treated fairly liberally (provided that you're following the base rules of fair play), so if you want to do something else, then that's fine provided that it's reasonable to do so.

 

[TheBlackace]

Well, when I was writing up the site guide on Force usage, I envisioned using fire, lightning or...pretty much anything else you can imagine as just a visual manifestation - in other words it's not real flame, just the way you choose to shape the Force energy, so I didn't really imagine that you could use it to set someone on fire - burn them with Force energy, sure, but not turn them into a walking funeral pyre. Another way to explain it is that if you were to use the Force to conjure flames, or lightning, or a bolt of Force energy, then they'd all be classified as 'Force damage', rather than lightning damage, fire damage etc.

I sort of framed it this way for the sake of simplicity, since conjuring an actual elemental attack might be considered unnecessarily complicated. That said, that was just my take on things, and the guide is intended to be treated fairly liberally (provided that you're following the base rules of fair play), so if you want to do something else, then that's fine provided that it's reasonable to do so.

So in other words, it's just a skin for generic force damage?

 

[Green Ranger]

That's pretty much what I initially had in mind, yeah.

 

[Braden]

@TheBlackace one of my training threads with Sapphire is teaching the use of fire with the force. It is not how it has to be taught but it was my kind of way of how I think it would work.