Rogue One Trailer

[Andrewza]

I would not mind her death but would think she should instead go rouge or even join the empire. Let the others die in the last stand.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I would not mind her death but would think she should instead go rouge or even join the empire. Let the others die in the last stand.

You might say she's... a rogue one.

 

[Reya Starlyght]

You might say she's... a rogue one.

ROFL.

That, uh, might actually be why the films called that though...

 

[Brandon Rhea]

ROFL.

That, uh, might actually be why the films called that though...

From what I've heard, I think you're right. The assumption was that this had something to do with Rogue Squadron. Maybe it does, but the title of the film sounds more and more like it's about Jyn rather than any sort of callsign. This could very well be where Rogue Squadron comes from, but who knows. I definitely think the title is about Jyn.

 

[Silverface]

Now, none of this was an attack on you or anything. You like what Rogue One is bringing to the table and you like that it's broadening the universe. So we're just talking about the process used to get there.

Not going to take it as an attack mate. I just see the process to be forced, although so far it hasn't diluted my enjoyment of a broader, more vibrant universe. Maz's Castle was basically what I wanted to see in the Prequels. Like I said, I just disagree with the notion, not the results. Things like, Donnie Yen, KanjiKlub, Forest Whitaker ( one of my favourite actors by the by ), are all great casting choices and in the case of Kanjiklub, used well to bring life to the setting.

When it goes beyond giving life to the setting, when it becomes blatantly forced and jarring, then I'm going to take umbrage with it in it's entirety. Kathleen's direction to bring more female leads is all well and good, but not at the expense of the viewer's enjoyment.

Besides. I can't be racist, I have a colour television.

 

[Andrewza]

@Brandon Rhea

I hope so, I like bad guys that have a good side she could become one for the empire.

That's why one of the best bad guys for me from a move was General Hummel

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Not going to take it as an attack mate. I just see the process to be forced, although so far it hasn't diluted my enjoyment of a broader, more vibrant universe. Maz's Castle was basically what I wanted to see in the Prequels. Like I said, I just disagree with the notion, not the results. Things like, Donnie Yen, KanjiKlub, Forest Whitaker ( one of my favourite actors by the by ), are all great casting choices and in the case of Kanjiklub, used well to bring life to the setting.

When it goes beyond giving life to the setting, when it becomes blatantly forced and jarring, then I'm going to take umbrage with it in it's entirety. Kathleen's direction to bring more female leads is all well and good, but not at the expense of the viewer's enjoyment.

Besides. I can't be racist, I have a colour television.

Can you think of any examples where you feel something has been "forced" to the point that it was at the expense at your enjoyment? And why did it hurt your enjoyment?

 

[Silverface]

Can you think of any examples where you feel something has been "forced" to the point that it was at the expense at your enjoyment? And why did it hurt your enjoyment?

Not in Star Wars as of yet. Thankfully. In other media, yeah, I can think of a few that made me stop and go "Okay, what was the point of that being revealed?"

None of which is truly pertinent to the discussion of Rogue One.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Not in Star Wars as of yet. Thankfully. In other media, yeah, I can think of a few that made me stop and go "Okay, what was the point of that being revealed?"

None of which is truly pertinent to the discussion of Rogue One.

It's not directly relevant but it's tangentially relevant to the discussion of more diversity in Star Wars. Would you be up for sharing what those instances in other media were?

If not that's fine. Or if you want to PM me that's fine too. Ultimately I'm looking to understand your POV.

 

[Silverface]

@Brandon Rhea maybe via PM. I don't want to derail the thread with it.

 

[Nor'baal]

I think it's going to be a good film.
I like Star Wars.

 

[Kiro]

I personally think that Jyn'll end up going Imperial. @Silverface can confirm I've got a big old theory on the whole subject. But as I've also told the same cynical Brit, I am aware that it is a teaser trailer, and the best thing a teaser trailer can do is to get people hyped and start making crazy theories to hook people.

But my theories are based on two things. Namely that one shot we see, with the Emperor's royal guards standing watch over what looks like a Bacta tank, and the way Jyn is revealed in the Imperial outfit (I've looked all over Wookiee, it's not any standard form of Imperial uniform we've seen revealed so far), with her turning slowly, lights slowly coming on around her, is quite clearly a "reveal"/"revelation" shot, which seems a bit pointless if it's just a costume for infiltrating an Imperial facility.

That said... one thing I think most people haven't considered, is that Jyn might be an Imperial agent PRIOR to the start of Rogue One. She might be an Imperial agent planted explicitly to infiltrate the Rebellion, and that "reveal" shot might be showing her past as an Imperial Agent. (My hope is still that she'll join the Empire though)

 

[Nor'baal]

Phasma origin story?

Just a really wild idea.

 

[Kiro]

Phasma origin story?

Just a really wild idea.

Too old, much too small.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Spoiler: Jyn

From what I've heard from insider accounts, part of the mission to steal the plans is that they have to infiltrate the Empire. Which makes sense. It is a heist. So I don't think that shot should suggest she'll join the Empire. The Empire is all about conformity, and Jyn (from what we know) doesn't seem like the conforming type.

And unless her defection to the Empire but ultimate help in stealing the plans all takes place in one film, then it seems even less likely she'd defect. These standalone films are meant to do just that: standalone. They're not franchise builders, so I wouldn't expect a Rogue Two or anything like that.

 

[Nor'baal]

She's Brandon?
Confirmed.

 

[Oreus]

I really want to see how/if this is tied to anything from Rebels. Will we see a live version of Callus, Zeb, Ezra, Kanan, Hera.. anyone?

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I really want to see how/if this is tied to anything from Rebels. Will we see a live version of Callus, Zeb, Ezra, Kanan, Hera.. anyone?

I doubt it. But, I wouldn't be surprised if what the characters in Rebels do next season ends up setting the stage for Rogue One.

 

[Kiro]

I doubt it. But, I wouldn't be surprised if what the characters in Rebels do next season ends up setting the stage for Rogue One.

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if we saw certain Rogue One characters eventually start appearing in Rebels S3. Like Mon Mothma, for instance.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I wouldn't be entirely surprised if we saw certain Rogue One characters eventually start appearing in Rebels S3. Like Mon Mothma, for instance.

Mon Mothma pretty much has to be in Rebels eventually since it will likely end with the formation of the Alliance. But I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other Rogue One characters started showing up too. For example, Donnie Yen's character looks like he's blind. Considering he's both blind and a swordsman, he could very well be someone who helps Kanan adjust to being blind.

In the movie itself I bet we'll at least get references to the show. Maybe something like a reference to "the Ghost crew" or "Captain Syndulla" or something like that.