SPOILER THREAD: The Last Jedi

[Brandon Rhea]

Hux is still my favorite character. Though nothing in this movie could compete with his massively Hitler-esque speech from the first movie. That was badass.

He certainly up'd the number of fuckeyes he gave Kylo in this one, though.

 

[TWD26]

I was very upset when the slicer (well the white jacket dude, the actual slicer) wasn't Lando. Would have been a lovely touch.

They see Lando, we see Lando, but by a qwerk of fate, the characters never meet.

Exactly how I wanted it to go and was thinking the same thing. Shame, but oh well.

 

[Livgardist]

There is literally only one picture of Justin Theroux's Master Codebreaker on the whole internet.

God, he's good at covering his tracks. Spread it, get it out there. Expose him for who he really is. Don't let him remain anonymous!

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I've seen some fans theorizing that he really WAS Lando after all, and that the lapel pin he had was some camouflager because Lando is too famous and too political to go to Canto Blight without sticking out.

 

[Andrewza]

He certainly up'd the number of fuckeyes he gave Kylo in this one, though.

Loved the part where he was about to pull his blaster out and shoot him. I mean the first order is kind of not unified right now.

 

[Andrewza]

I've seen some fans theorizing that he really WAS Lando after all, and that the lapel pin he had was some camouflager because Lando is too famous and too political to go to Canto Blight without sticking out.

Lando did like gambling. But I don't think it was him, the people at that casino don't seem like the type he would hang out with.


On the casino city I actually liked it. Don't know why it so disliked. It adds to the world of star wars and expands the lore.

 

[Phil]

If Canto Blight or namely, that Decoder DJ who probably took quite a few deathsticks, doesn't show up again, then I feel like the entire scene was just... a big waste of time to draw the film out. Which I do hope he does show up again, cause he seemed to have potential.

I didn't hate Canto Blight, but it just felt unnecessary to the main story and like it was ripped straight from the Prequels.

 

[Andrewza]

If Canto Blight or namely, that Decoder DJ who probably took quite a few deathsticks, doesn't show up again, then I feel like the entire scene was just... a big waste of time to draw the film out. Which I do hope he does show up again, cause he seemed to have potential.

I didn't hate Canto Blight, but it just felt unnecessary to the main story and like it was ripped straight from the Prequels.

I think he will be in star wars though if it is a movie I don't know. It is nice we have a straight up independent character.


Though I think the kid could show up some how to. Again not sure if in a movie though.


And though it was not needed for the story I do feel thar Poe Dameron story needed him making a plan and then having it fail do badly. If he never sent Finn and Rose who met the hacker who showed the first order the codes needed to see the transports final act would not happen. That means that Poe plan back fired so badly it killed most of the restiance.

 

[Rasputin]

Okay, so I think I've finished reeling from this film and for the most part, I really enjoyed it. While it did feel a bit heavy on the allegories to current issues (for a Star Wars movie anyway), I really respect the bold choices and messages that Rian Johnson made in this movie and I think they'll really pay off (assuming Abrams doesn't walk back on them in Episode IX).

I absolutely adored Kylo's arc (and Luke's too, for that matter), but my biggest complaint with the movie was easily Snoke's sudden death. Of course, I don't think there was any way you could really handle that character properly. He always felt like he was inserted into the plot for no reason and they didn't know what to do with him. You really could've told this story without Snoke in the picture and not a whole lot would change (the story might've even been better for it). Overall, Snoke was just a plot device to advance the story of the real villain of this trilogy: Kylo Ren. And you know what, that's fine, but I can't help but think that Kylo Ren's power grab would've had a lot more weight if we actually knew a little something about Snoke beforehand or if Snoke was an already-established character.

Another thing that bugged me was the thought of Luke even considering killing young Ben. Even if its meant to be a testament to just how rotten Kylo Ren is, it seems so out of character for the same guy who defied the guidance of his masters and went off to save space Hitler. At this point, it seems like a general rule in the Skywalker family to kill kids and ask questions later.

Otherwise, I really liked this installment of the franchise and I'm intrigued in the overall direction the story is going. I suppose you could even say I'm looking forward to seeing Abrams finish what Johnson started.

 

[Andrewza]

Luke action is not as out of chatter as one would think. Even in return of the jedi he acted on impulse. He tried to kill the Emperor even though he thought him unarmed and went berserk on Vader drinking the fight. So him seeing the possibilities of the evil that was Ben could of made him snap for the split second that it happened.


I liked snoke I liked how people spent so long speculating on who he was when he was just a red hearing. I personal think he was a inqusitior.

 

[Rasputin]

It took a lot of emotional distress for him to lash out to the Emperor or Vader the way he did. But I mean, I guess I could buy into the idea that he saw an evil in Ben that caused him, in a moment of weakness, to actually contemplate striking him down. But based on what we know at the moment, it just seems like an extreme reaction to me.

 

[Andrewza]

It was extreme and probably why he blames him self so much. I mean he really really messed up in a big way.

 

[Danee]

So, I saw this movie on Saturday and I must say that while I enjoyed the movie, I'm also disappointed in how certain characters were treated. I feel as if Phasma's death was far from as good as it should have been, considering her character. I very much disagree with the Media stating that this was the best new Star Wars movie, I highly prefer Rogue one over TLJ. I'd rate The Return of the Jedi over this, which is still a good movie, but just like TLJ failed on certain things.

 

[Livgardist]

Canto Blight really incites some very complicated feelings in me. I really love it. I think it was so super well done.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Another thing that bugged me was the thought of Luke even considering killing young Ben. Even if its meant to be a testament to just how rotten Kylo Ren is, it seems so out of character for the same guy who defied the guidance of his masters and went off to save space Hitler. At this point, it seems like a general rule in the Skywalker family to kill kids and ask questions later.

I think it fits into another character trait Luke has shown in the past: self-doubt.

When it came to seeing the light inside of Vader, that was Luke putting his faith in another person that up to that point he really didn't have much to do with. He trusted, without much to go on, that Anakin was still in there. And he was right.

With Ben, Luke had to put faith in himself as a master. He doubted himself and his abilities to help Ben. So in a moment of instinct bred by fear and self-doubt, he ignited his lightsaber before realizing "holy shit what am I doing?" But by then it was too late.

Luke has never been the most confident person. He's had confident moments, but he's dealt with plenty of self-doubt.

I feel as if Phasma's death was far from as good as it should have been, considering her character.

Don't take this the wrong way, but is there actually something inherent to her character there that makes you think that, or is it the way you perceive her character? Because in the movies, there's really nothing to go on about Phasma. And the stories that were written about her, namely the novel and comic mini-series, were written after The Last Jedi were written, so any fleshing out came after Johnson decided to kill her off (assuming, of course, that she's even dead).

Plus, if there's one character trait for Phasma that carries throughout the different mediums, it's that the idea of her as this badass is a legend and that her main concern is self-preservation. She's a very capable soldier but she's not this great warrior that people make her out to be.

Which is basically a meta commentary on fan reaction to her character.

 

[Livgardist]

She's no Boba Fett, that's for sure. :prudence:

*Livgardist away*

 

[Danee]

I think it fits into another character trait Luke has shown in the past: self-doubt.

When it came to seeing the light inside of Vader, that was Luke putting his faith in another person that up to that point he really didn't have much to do with. He trusted, without much to go on, that Anakin was still in there. And he was right.

With Ben, Luke had to put faith in himself as a master. He doubted himself and his abilities to help Ben. So in a moment of instinct bred by fear and self-doubt, he ignited his lightsaber before realizing "holy shit what am I doing?" But by then it was too late.

Luke has never been the most confident person. He's had confident moments, but he's dealt with plenty of self-doubt.



Don't take this the wrong way, but is there actually something inherent to her character there that makes you think that, or is it the way you perceive her character? Because in the movies, there's really nothing to go on about Phasma. And the stories that were written about her, namely the novel and comic mini-series, were written after The Last Jedi were written, so any fleshing out came after Johnson decided to kill her off (assuming, of course, that she's even dead).

Plus, if there's one character trait for Phasma that carries throughout the different mediums, it's that the idea of her as this badass is a legend and that her main concern is self-preservation. She's a very capable soldier but she's not this great warrior that people make her out to be.

Which is basically a meta commentary on fan reaction to her character.

I don't see how I could take it the wrong way. I think that Phasma shouldn't have been killed off due to the way she was written as a Survivalist in the novel, which pointed out that she'd go to great lengths to ensure her own survival, looking away from Flynn like that was just poorly written for her in my opinion

 

[Nor'baal]

How did Rey know how to swim?

 

[Brandon Rhea]

How did Rey know how to swim?

I wondered that same thing as she was swimming but the only thing I could think to say was "you're doing amazing, sweetie"

 

[Nor'baal]

Maybe she had those arm band things?