The First Sith: Experience Points and Character Levels

[Alhon]

Will the same allowed/disallowed species list be carried forward do we know? Appreciate this may not yet have been determined, but three weeks out it could be important for character planning.

 

[Arcangel]

Sooo I guess that would mean this is my sub account and I need to make a "main."

Not yet, and it would likely be better to rename this account and make a sub account under it.

 

[Vosrik]

Will the same allowed/disallowed species list be carried forward do we know? Appreciate this may not yet have been determined, but three weeks out it could be important for character planning.

I’ll add to this, would current Planet profiles be kept or scrapped? I’m sure there are a few that could be kept, but a lot have history sections that probably wouldn’t have happened yet in the new TL.

 

[The Good Doctor]

I’ll add to this, would current Planet profiles be kept or scrapped? I’m sure there are a few that could be kept, but a lot have history sections that probably wouldn’t have happened yet in the new TL.

everything, even approved lore submissions and planets has to be resubmitted

 

[Wit]

How do you decide what to keep and what to throw away? It's so.ply easier, and more fair, to start things from scratch. And even if you keep stuff you would have to modify it to make it work with the new timeline, might as well just submit a new submission.

 

[Green Ranger]

Will the rate of experience/credit gain remain the same throughout the timeline for everyone, or is there any sort of plan for bonuses to credits for new members or anything of the like?

I mean, say for example you're running the timeline for six months and a new member joins. They'll have the same rate of gains as a player who has been writing steadily throughout that six month period - which effectively means that, if their activity levels are relatively similar, the less senior member won't ever be able to catch up.

Granted, basing credit counts on word count does help with this to an extent, but still. The last few timelines have been fairly lengthy, so new member bonuses after a certain period might be something to look into in order to inject new life into the hierarchies once they're established.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

They will be able to catch up. There's a max level of Level 4, so there's no scenario where people who have a 6 month head start will continue advancing while new members remain stuck behind them.

We covered this in previous comments and answers, so everyone please remember to read the comments in addition to just the first post of an announcement.

 

[Raydo]

You could also just kill those ahead of you in level....I mean wat

 

[Cheshire]

I love the idea of having a levels that separate character ranks. However, what I noticed that in the rank description, it had no mention of how bounty hunters and other non force sensetives were able to compete with other levels. is there a good example of how non force sensitives would be able to fair against each other???

 

[Vosrik]

I love the idea of having a levels that separate character ranks. However, what I noticed that in the rank description, it had no mention of how bounty hunters and other non force sensetives were able to compete with other levels. is there a good example of how non force sensitives would be able to fair against each other???

Here you go

 

[Cheshire]

Here you go

What I was more concerned about was if say a Jedi Knight could murder a level 4 non force sensitive due to force usage and a glowstick. Would there be ways to counteract that????

 

[Stratus]

What I was more concerned about was if say a Jedi Knight could murder a level 4 non force sensitive due to force usage and a glowstick. Would there be ways to counteract that????

This does mean a level 1 character would be fairly outclassed against a level 4 character, just as Asajj Ventress was easily disarmed by Yoda in The Clone Wars. This does not mean, however, that being a higher level than another character will be an automatic win; a well-written Jedi Knight could defeat an Exile Master, and a well-written Jedi Knight could defeat a poorly written Exile Lord. Inversely, the Jedi Grand Master could probably hold their own against two Exile Apprentices.

 

[Cheshire]

What I was looking for was an example for non sensitive combat

 

[Stratus]

What I was looking for was an example for non sensitive combat

I think the same would apply. A well written NFS could easily beat a badly written FS.

 

[1new6]

What I was more concerned about was if say a Jedi Knight could murder a level 4 non force sensitive due to force usage and a glowstick. Would there be ways to counteract that????

The way I read it a lvl 1 force sensitive is just as maritally capable as a lvl 1 bounty hunter/mercenary/what have you. That said, I think it will be easier for force sensitive characters to utilize that level of power then it will be for Non force users. Non force users while still technically, just as maritally capable, have to utilize technology, traps, and cunning in their rp, things that take a bit more work to think out/write then just “I shove him back with the mystical force magic”. Think of Cad Bane in the CW; he took on powerful Jedi all the time, sometimes facing more than one at once, and he usually won. However he didn’t win by brute force, he made diversions, utilized dirty tricks, and decimated his opponents with plays they never even saw coming.
Non force sensitives don’t have the raw strength of their space wizard counterparts, but they make up for that in having far more options due to technology and the pinnacle trait thing they get at lvl 4 (I honestly forget what it is called). When it comes down to a fight, if you know what you are doing (at least to a reasonable extent) and can think up creative uses for those options, more diversity will beat raw power any day.

Then again that is just my two cents.

 

[Raydo]

The way I read it a lvl 1 force sensitive is just as maritally capable as a lvl 1 bounty hunter/mercenary/what have you. That said, I think it will be easier for force sensitive characters to utilize that level of power then it will be for Non force users. Non force users while still technically, just as maritally capable, have to utilize technology, traps, and cunning in their rp, things that take a bit more work to think out/write then just “I shove him back with the mystical force magic”. Think of Cad Bane in the CW; he took on powerful Jedi all the time, sometimes facing more than one at once, and he usually won. However he didn’t win by brute force, he made diversions, utilized dirty tricks, and decimated his opponents with plays they never even saw coming.
Non force sensitives don’t have the raw strength of their space wizard counterparts, but they make up for that in having far more options due to technology and the pinnacle trait thing they get at lvl 4 (I honestly forget what it is called). When it comes down to a fight, if you know what you are doing (at least to a reasonable extent) and can think up creative uses for those options, more diversity will beat raw power any day.

Then again that is just my two cents.

Force Sensitive characters get capstone perks as well, but you are correct. The Force has always been the most powerful tool an individual can utilize in the Star Wars universe. With that being said, Jedi were definitly not ever garunteed a victory over someone. A more realistic fight to look at would be Obi Wan vs Jango Fett on Kamino. By staying at range when they both had weapons and by staying closed when both were disarmed, Jango made it so Obi Wan couldn't bring some of ppwer in the Force to bare.

An even more drastic example would be the mass killings of Jedi by clone troopers during Order 66. While being elite soldiers, they really had nothing but blaster rifles and the element of surprise.

It is important to work with opponents when writing to make sure everyone gets a fair shake and has a good time. Use of the Force to handwave a victory just becuase the other person is a Non-FS would be considered god modeing IMO and is against the site rules.

 

[Dawyn]

Force Sensitive characters get capstone perks as well, but you are correct. The Force has always been the most powerful tool an individual can utilize in the Star Wars universe. With that being said, Jedi were definitly not ever garunteed a victory over someone. A more realistic fight to look at would be Obi Wan vs Jango Fett on Kamino. By staying at range when they both had weapons and by staying closed when both were disarmed, Jango made it so Obi Wan couldn't bring some of ppwer in the Force to bare.

An even more drastic example would be the mass killings of Jedi by clone troopers during Order 66. While being elite soldiers, they really had nothing but blaster rifles and the element of surprise.

It is important to work with opponents when writing to make sure everyone gets a fair shake and has a good time. Use of the Force to handwave a victory just becuase the other person is a Non-FS would be considered god modeing IMO and is against the site rules.

It is important to note that of the things that non-FS have canonically had was advantage in numbers (Order 66/Rebels/Clone Wars) which is not really modeled here except maybe in tactical battles. EG a typical Jedi could easily dispatch your average trooper who wasn't a Boba Fett badass(even Padawans could do this) but would struggle against a squad or more or have it be more even. Not sure how that would feasibly be modelled on site with the npc rules though.

 

[Raydo]

It is important to note that of the things that non-FS have canonically had was advantage in numbers (Order 66/Rebels/Clone Wars) which is not really modeled here except maybe in tactical battles. EG a typical Jedi could easily dispatch your average trooper who wasn't a Boba Fett badass(even Padawans could do this) but would struggle against a squad or more or have it be more even. Not sure how that would feasibly be modelled on site with the npc rules though.

Fair point but by in large everyone here is playing an elite character. The Star Wars Universe and this site revolve largely around telling the stories of highly skilled and talented individuals "The Best of the Best". A "badass" soldier in the star wars universe could accomplish the exact same thing as you mentioned (ie Rambo) and would have many of the same limitations.

Now if you purposely make a character that isn't at this "power level" and choose to play a politician or even just a common soldier type character - The rules shouldn't enable you to be on even footing. I believe it's up to the writer to lean into the weaknesses they have chosen to give themselves and make the story work. That may mean running away when others would fight but there you can definitely find interesting storytelling in those scenarios as well.

 

[Vosrik]

Another thing to note about this TL is that PvP isn’t going to be nearly as fundamental to the story or character progression as it is to the current TL. One could easily RP a politician or non-FS from levels 1-4 without even touching combat once. The focus will be on plots and storytelling, not who you can beat in a 1v1.

 

[Dawyn]

Fair point but by in large everyone here is playing an elite character. The Star Wars Universe and this site revolve largely around telling the stories of highly skilled and talented individuals "The Best of the Best". A "badass" soldier in the star wars universe could accomplish the exact same thing as you mentioned (ie Rambo) and would have many of the same limitations.

Now if you purposely make a character that isn't at this "power level" and choose to play a politician or even just a common soldier type character - The rules shouldn't enable you to be on even footing. I believe it's up to the writer to lean into the weaknesses they have chosen to give themselves and make the story work. That may mean running away when others would fight but there you can definitely find interesting storytelling in those scenarios as well.

Another thing to note about this TL is that PvP isn’t going to be nearly as fundamental to the story or character progression as it is to the current TL. One could easily RP a politician or non-FS from levels 1-4 without even touching combat once. The focus will be on plots and storytelling, not who you can beat in a 1v1.

Good points by both of you.