Vanilla Ice OOC

[Undine]

Cool, I had just misread it then, I thought it was the sniper that got away with his fingers. Apologies.​

 

[Undine]

Two quick questions before I start on my post, is there a specific write up for the flamethrowers are we thinking in terms of Vietnam type flamethrowers? The ones with the tank on their backs. Also, second question, and this one doesn't really matter per say, I'm just curious, how close is Sal to the stormtroopers with the flamethrowers? It'll be getting mighty toasty.

 

[Hol Horse]

I think thats a question you should probably ask @Tristar, he'd have a better idea than myself for how star wars flamethrowers usually work, plus they're his troopers technically. As for Sal's current position though, he's standing roughly several feet back or so to let the troopers burn Emerald out while he aims to shoot her the second she pokes out.

I'll say that be mindful of how much time you use when counterattacking as at the moment you're pinned down fairly well from most sides and that you won't have much of a window when making your move most before getting shot/blazed most likely. Though, as with all things, you're free to play your hand as you'd like.

 

[Undine]

I already know what I'd like to do, so no worries there. I was mainly asking about the flamethrowers because I'd like to make sure there isn't something written up about them before I make my post so I don't have to edit it later. As for being pinned down, and I run the risk of sounding like a mary sue, but... NPCs are worthless in PvP, nothing more than cannon fodder, their attacks worth nothing more than a brief mention of being brushed off before a wandering PC kills them. I'm not planning on going god mode on them or anything, but their not a threat to me, regardless of what their doing. Effectively, Emerald isn't under direct attack atm, only under the threat of direct attack if I have her fall into the trap you set for her, which I won't, why would I?

I'm actually planning on taking out the 3 troopers in such a way to cause the tanks of their flamethrowers to explode, more than likely providing enough of a distraction for Emerald to hop the trench and confront Sal directly. To that end I'd prefer to know if there is a write up for them before hand or if them having flamethrowers is just something you guys chose to do.​

 

[Hol Horse]

That's perfectly fine, sure. It's just that currently me and Tristar are treating this as a Tactical Battle as much as we are PvP, the NPC's we command are meant to play a big part in our fighting. Sure the NPC are ants and meant to be susceptible to the force and the actions of PC's, but they should still play a role in this scenario as they're actively being commanded by Tri and myself. I'm more than fine with going 1v1 after you blow up the flamethrower troopers but I'd just like for you to be aware of the type of battle the two of us are waging.

 

[Valen Pelora]

That's perfectly fine, sure. It's just that currently me and Tristar are treating this as a Tactical Battle as much as we are PvP, the NPC's we command are meant to play a big part in our fighting. Sure the NPC are ants and meant to be susceptible to the force and the actions of PC's, but they should still play a role in this scenario as they're actively being commanded by Tri and myself. I'm more than fine with going 1v1 after you blow up the flamethrower troopers but I'd just like for you to be aware of the type of battle the two of us are waging.

I never wade into OOC that I am not involved in. However, since there are two Jedi and the idea of tactical battles is pretty new, this needs to be addressed. As far as I am concerned the thread you guys are in is not a tactical battle. There have so far been no tactical battles. The NPCs should be bound by the regular PVP rules.

 

[Undine]

Section IX: Tactical Battles
Subsection F—General PvP rules apply to Tactical Battles (e.i.: if an attack is not addressed, it automatically hits).
IE: Section V: Combat
Subsection J—All NPCs are inferior to PCs. An NPC is only to have equivalent skill to a rank-and-file soldier or average trained Force user. NPCs are not to be used in order to gain an advantage in a PvP setting. NPCs used as obstacles in a mission may be allowed to have a higher strength to make the mission harder, but only for that mission.
Subsection J.2—NPC or setting-related defensive emplacements are not to be used to outright overcome a PC Character. While such defenses may be used to provide a challenge to a PC, creating invulnerable locations (such as an unassailable fortress, an unapproachable planet, a flawlessly defended person or location to the extent that one can be killed by simply attempting to attack it) are strictly forbidden.

Tactical battle or not, NPCs are still the same. Personally, I'd use the the NPCs to get you closer to completing your mission's objectives, whatever they may be, while keeping myself and Kyle occupied with your PCs. Remember, my only goal is to keep you guys from completing your mission, that's all I have to do to succeed on my end, you guys actually have to complete objectives and win the battle overall. Don't get to focused on taking out the opposing PCs, they are not your mission, your mission is. ;)​

 

[Hol Horse]

You know I love you dine ;)

Cool, cool, thats squared away at least. Ill wait for your post to start the real fight then.

 

[René]

Hey, I need some second opinions on my idea for my next post. Since Jalen's right hand is now effectively useless, my plan is for him to channel that pain and go a bit "dark side" on the NPCs advancing on him. It's the only way that I can see him getting back into the PvP, and it additionally fits his character. My end goal for him is to become a Mace Windu style Jedi who draws on and walks close to the Dark Side, but stays in the light and never succumbs to it. Thoughts?

 

[Hol Horse]

Sounds cool. The only thing I'd say is that you wouldn't be able to keep up that dark side trance forever, you'd get tired from overuse of the force eventually, that's just the way the cookie crumbles for force use in general. Still a neat idea though, it's up to you really.

 

[Undine]

Also, Mace never used the dark side, yes he walked a tight edge, but he actually redirected the dark side back at his opponents. Actually using the dark side would lead to dark side corruption. Just something to consider.

@Ravendark Love you too, lol. I'll be posting in our other thread tonight after finish something IRL, probably won't get to this thread till tomorrow since I have another thread to post in after Déjà-Vu.​

 

[Undine]

That IRL thing took about an hour longer to finish up than I had expected. I ended up going to bed afterwards so apologies @Ravendark Though on the other hand I decided to go ahead and post in Vanilla Ice, I really like the thread's name by the way. Let me know if there is anything you'd like me to change, and as a side note I wrote it up while listening to this on repeat, Link, it's very soothing. Normally I listen to this song when I do PvP.​

 

[Tristar]

@Undine Just woke up after work: to answer your questions, the flamethrowers are wrist-mounted. Think Boba Fett style, however with a compressed fuel capsule that's somewhat hidden at the back under/inbetween the armor plating. In other words there's no big, bulbous fuel tank WW2 style- perhaps a small bump akin to this. Plus with a very compressed fuel tank, I'd say the explosive radius would be slightly bigger than just 2 meters- somewhere between 3 - 4, the storm troopers probably coated in their own flames but with a literal hailstorm of shrapnel flying everywhere.

 

[Undine]

Cool, I'll make the edits, though would Sal be caught in that blast @Ravendark? I made the blast only 2 meters cause I didn't want to run the risk of toasting Sal, would much prefer defeating you through skill then a technicality. Though that's not to say he couldn't survive that blast. Good luck with the shrapnel. >:)

Edits have been made @Tristar though it's more a matter of wording then any actual change. Let me know what you think.​

 

[Hol Horse]

He'd certainly be scruffed up, but I think since he's already preparing for some sort of counterattack that he'd probably just send out a force pulse to deflect the worst of it.

 

[René]

I'll hopefully post soon tonight, but 7 not I'll post tomorrow morning. Last check for any obscure PvP rule that would prevent Jalen from continuing to fight mostly normally despite his lack of a useful right hand.

 

[Undine]

@Kyle: The Rogue since your kinda the one that injured your own character, it's really up to you how severe it is.​

 

[René]

@Kyle: The Rogue since your kinda the one that injured your own character, it's really up to you how severe it is.​

Gotcha...I'm going with an "It's ok now but gets worse the longer it's not treated" scenario. Basically the longer bad more intense the battle, the deeper the shrapnel goes and the worse the wounds become afterwards.

 

[Undine]

@Ravendark I just want to point out that in my last post I finished off with Emerald coming at you full force from around 6 feet from Sal. Since Jalen is around 9 feet from her, so 15 feet from you, it'd make more sense for Sal to deal with Emerald before turning to Jalen. You also have to consider that at 6 feet Sal wouldn't really have enough time to Force push Jalen, shoot at him, and then meet Emerald's attack head on. The attacks themselves are sound, just not in the right order. As is, I'm more prone to undercutting your lightsaber with mine then kicking Sal in the face while he's trying to shoot at Jalen. Keep in mind, Emerald is a big girl, each blade of her lightsaber is 4 feet long, so those 6 feet are a lot shorter then you might have thought.

Since Tristar already seems to have Jalen in a pinch with his PC, Raven, you might want to focus a little more on Emerald. I don't intend on killing anyone's PC, but I wouldn't run the risk of letting Emerald get her hands on Sal. Personally, if I was Sal, I would have retreated a bit to regain the range advantage. Sal is not a physical combatant, Emerald is. I basically discarded Emerald's discblade, so other then her stun pistol, she had no real range ability. Do not let Emerald close in on you.​

 

[Hol Horse]

Truth be told I didn't really see a specific range, or must have missed it, since I operated under the assumption Emerald was something like 12 feet away which would make such a chain of events more reasonable given the minimal body movements required. Seeing as how those variables are no longer valid though, much of my post no longer is- save for the end point about the troops mowing down the rebel forces which is admittedly our mission objective to stamp out.

Would it be suitable for you if I were to edit it or would you like to continue with your post to interrupt mine. I didn't bother to ask for specifics so at the endof the day it's my own fault, but the judgement lies with you.