Worst Roleplaying Experience of My Life

[Rorren]

When I first came here I was shocked at how inviting and friendly the community seemed. I was getting into a few threads, found a partner and got off to some fun story making. I had a lot of stress in my life, as many of us here do, and lots of difficulty finding star wars specific sites that operated so well.

When I find out sith are attacking outlaw space, I figure I could have some fun trying pvp out for the first time to see how this site operated. My partner wanted to make a new character group and was going to have his character die, giving my own a deeper story. Though I didn't like the idea at the beginning, I wasn't going to restrict what he would do with his person and the chracter development would do well for my own.

I thought everyone here would want to push the story forward, and be respectful roleplayers. I'm no honed story-crafting expert, but I've been to my fair share of sites. People tend to understand onesided battles are no fun. People tend to be adults, even at young ages when roleplaying, and trade blows, make fights close, and leave each other's characters in the same condition when the fight ends. If not, at least permission is asked first before anything drastic happens.

Apparently on this site, the sith faction acts like children, only wanting to win instead of making good story telling. They dogpile on threads and seek to have victory through technicalities, posting in fast, consecutive order, and bullying anyone who would get in their way. They don't want to write a story out, they want conquest through any means possible. And I am far from alone in thinking this, even as a new player here. I was soiled for pvp here, but I thought I could at least return to generic threads and stay away from the main story so I wouldn't have to be involved with him.

This is when I find out my pvp thread has, without explination, been cut short. Not only is this after the sith forces have replied, and me and my partner have not, but it is still in the middle of the battle. However, because of this random ruling, my character is counted stranded on Ziost with my partner. But no, it doesn't even end there.

It was decided, without any of my input asked for, that not only would my partner's character that he wanted dead survive, but that mine would be executed when I had much more story to write out with him? Not only is that unfair and annoying, but beyond petty and reasonless. I don't think I'll be staying on this site, and any of my friends looking to roleplay star wars I will recomend look elsewhere. This was actually the worst roleplaying experience of my life, and all because one faction of adults could not act like what they are: adults.

Since I am still left completely out of the loop for the abrupt fate of a character that's very important to me in my star wars rp exerience, I have to hope my friend can sort this out somehow. But until then...

Goodbye, starwarsrp.

 

[Gamov]

Welp, I won't say much about the Ziost threads because A) I didn't pay attention to them, and B) I don't care about them, but I will say this: they were all Open threads attacking a high profile planet in Sith space. What did you think the outcome was going to be? Were they Open threads on any other random world in Sith territory, they may well have gone off without a hitch. But when you start 4-5 Open threads titled (literally) "Bombing of Ziost..." you're just looking for trouble.

I may come across as harsh, but whining that this has been the worst RP experience of your life because you couldn't avoid an Open thread attacking a high profile Sith planet isn't anyone's fault but your own. Your participation in the Ziost threads was not required or otherwise compulsory (to my knowledge at least).

And I would just like to go on record that Sith players are, in fact (and in spite of all pre-conceived perceptions to the contrary) entirely capable of writing stories. See the following examples:

Mission Pack 1
Mission Pack 2
Mission Pack 3
IBC Campaign

There are many more, but absolutely none of those examples support your claim that the faction is (in essence) a roving band of PvP murderbots who are incapable of comprehending good story telling.

In my opinion, and as I said before, the failure here seems to be one entirely of your own creation, rather than part of some grand conspiracy by the Sith faction and its writers to ruin everyone's fun.

That said, good luck and god speed. I wish you well in your future endeavors, wherever they may take you.

 

[Rorren]

If anyone is interested here are the involved threads:

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/...ziost-the-citadel-sacking.71492/#post-1336056

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/...t-the-citadel-sacking-ooc.71877/#post-1335408

 

[Arcangel]

If anyone is interested here are the involved threads:

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/...ziost-the-citadel-sacking.71492/#post-1336056

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/...t-the-citadel-sacking-ooc.71877/#post-1335408

Allow me to elaborate. My mistake for not posting in the OOC why the thread went to ruling. The thread was reported as being at the end of its time per the Manaan rules, found in the Rules and Guidelines section of the forum.

As for the death of your character, this has been reported and we are currently looking into it.

 

[TheBeta]

When I first came here I was shocked at how inviting and friendly the community seemed. I was getting into a few threads, found a partner and got off to some fun story making. I had a lot of stress in my life, as many of us here do, and lots of difficulty finding star wars specific sites that operated so well.

When I find out sith are attacking outlaw space, I figure I could have some fun trying pvp out for the first time to see how this site operated. My partner wanted to make a new character group and was going to have his character die, giving my own a deeper story. Though I didn't like the idea at the beginning, I wasn't going to restrict what he would do with his person and the chracter development would do well for my own.

I thought everyone here would want to push the story forward, and be respectful roleplayers. I'm no honed story-crafting expert, but I've been to my fair share of sites. People tend to understand onesided battles are no fun. People tend to be adults, even at young ages when roleplaying, and trade blows, make fights close, and leave each other's characters in the same condition when the fight ends. If not, at least permission is asked first before anything drastic happens.

Apparently on this site, the sith faction acts like children, only wanting to win instead of making good story telling. They dogpile on threads and seek to have victory through technicalities, posting in fast, consecutive order, and bullying anyone who would get in their way. They don't want to write a story out, they want conquest through any means possible. And I am far from alone in thinking this, even as a new player here. I was soiled for pvp here, but I thought I could at least return to generic threads and stay away from the main story so I wouldn't have to be involved with him.

This is when I find out my pvp thread has, without explination, been cut short. Not only is this after the sith forces have replied, and me and my partner have not, but it is still in the middle of the battle. However, because of this random ruling, my character is counted stranded on Ziost with my partner. But no, it doesn't even end there.

It was decided, without any of my input asked for, that not only would my partner's character that he wanted dead survive, but that mine would be executed when I had much more story to write out with him? Not only is that unfair and annoying, but beyond petty and reasonless. I don't think I'll be staying on this site, and any of my friends looking to roleplay star wars I will recomend look elsewhere. This was actually the worst roleplaying experience of my life, and all because one faction of adults could not act like what they are: adults.

Since I am still left completely out of the loop for the abrupt fate of a character that's very important to me in my star wars rp exerience, I have to hope my friend can sort this out somehow. But until then...

Goodbye, starwarsrp.

I don't want you to feel bad at all about anything like that, but I think this can be a good learning oportunity than anything else. Sure, writing on a RPing forum like this is supposed to be very story oriented with a well built plot behind the thread and characters RPing in it; However, I agree that there is a very serious aspect that is very (video-game-esque). PvP is the big one thee, where writers will do anything to kill another character and pevent any harm to their own character. It is a bit flawed, but it is confined to OPEN threads.

That being said, there are ways in which you can perform PvP without the threat of death to your character, and there are even theatrical PvP encounters where a determined outcome is to be found by the end of the thread. It all comes down to How you set it up, and it involves a lot of OOC planning and he original post of the thread. All of those non-death threads will take place in Ask threads.

Sure, you've lost your character, but so long as we remember that the character is not actually US, we cna create a new character, and leaern from our mistakes. I, myself, intend to enter an OPEN thread with my Jedi character, and thoguh I have sent out an OOc thread asking if any other Jedi will join me, I will still enter it against three other Sith, and I do this fully aware that my character has a very high chance of dying if no one joins in with me. It is the risk of OPEN threads. Honestly, there is not really much of a wy you can predict how an OPEN thread where death is enabled for all characters will turn out.

I hope you don't actually leave the site, but if you do, Good Luck Anyway! If you do stay, I know there are a lot of threads and story arcs oriented aruond story as a primary objective!

 

[Rorren]

Well, that's at least somewhat of an explination. But with @Gamov, I have to disagree to an extent. I'm not saying that anything the sith have done are incorrect with site rules, or even particularly wrong, but I do believe that they (or at least a decent enough part or the group) are manipulative of site rules for victory, on the admittedly fewer experiences I have had with them. With the explination given above I am curious to know who reported for the Manaan rules, as ending the thread abruptly clearly benefited the sith over writing the story out.

But I'm not here to demand anything. I would just like aspects to be considered on how they could ruin stories, and new player experience for those in indie factions. Without my roleplaying partner to help me through this, my character's death would just be fact, and I would have no way to dispute it since I would not very well know how. I am not typically one to complain if you trust me on that at all, but feeling cheated is probably one of the worst possibilities as a roleplayer to me. I was not contacted for any part of it, even after the post was given that my character was murdered. But since this post is being revised for credibility, I am at least happy to know that it is possible it won't be true. I was just very mad to find out from my partner that though I was stranded in the rulings, my character was actually dead, and this was my first hearing of this until I was shown the post.

 

[TWD26]

@Rorren as your mentor on this site, I would like to advice and request that you settle down and step away from the site as this is handled. I know it can be frustrating, but we shouldn't jump to conclusions about a whole faction. The whole mission pack was very well done and there was great action and sportsmanship by all participants. It is counter productive and creates uneccessary drama to bring the whole site into this buddy. I don't want to beat you up, I know this can be hard, but things will be worked out in the end. But, things need to be done more tactful.

I myself take full blame for this as I promised to mentor you on this site. PvP can often be different from writing a general story and the state of rp highlighted this. I will not claim to have any answers or touch on PvP as I promised I wouldn't. I just want to say sorry that I put you through this and I want you to rethink this.

 

[Green Ranger]

tbh I feel like you're pretty justified in feeling pissed off right now cos that feels like a pretty dick move there.

 

[Sreeya]

tbh I feel like you're pretty justified in feeling pissed off right now cos that feels like a pretty dick move there.

Stop it. This is being handled, it's been reported, obviously there were some miscommunications and that's being looked into. There's no need to add fuel to the flame. There is already enough tension, and crying about who's being a dick and whatnot will not help anyone learn on either side of this.

 

[Rorren]

@TheBeta I was informed that killimg other people's characters, especially without much story-related reason, was allowed, but only, for lack of a proper word, 'jerks' would do so. I would not be so mad if the story had been completed and my character had lost his life. I would even go to the extent that if we completed the thread and I requested that they not kill my character, but they informed me they wuld anyways and did, I would not be as mad. But the fact that the thread was incomplete, and then without any communication to me they execute my character without my side having lost the pvp is why I was so ticked. At least now I have a bit of an explanation. Though with my character being a higher-level engineer, had the story continued, it was cery possible for him to make repairs to the ship, though that is all hypothetical. But being shot at in the engines without an option to evade to the point where they were taken out, and then the thread ends, giving us no chance to reply any sort of evasion or repair left us crashed in the mountain, and the, though now it is under dispute at least, my character was killed. That is the base of my anger here.

 

[TWD26]

@TheBeta I was informed that killimg other people's characters, especially without much story-related reason, was allowed, but only, for lack of a proper word, 'jerks' would do so. I would not be so mad if the story had been completed and my character had lost his life. I would even go to the extent that if we completed the thread and I requested that they not kill my character, but they informed me they wuld anyways and did, I would not be as mad. But the fact that the thread was incomplete, and then without any communication to me they execute my character without my side having lost the pvp is why I was so ticked. At least now I have a bit of an explanation. Though with my character being a higher-level engineer, had the story continued, it was cery possible for him to make repairs to the ship, though that is all hypothetical. But being shot at in the engines without an option to evade to the point where they were taken out, and then the thread ends, giving us no chance to reply any sort of evasion or repair left us crashed in the mountain, and the, though now it is under dispute at least, my character was killed. That is the base of my anger here.

Rorren, I would step away from the site and cool down. Things will be handled.

 

[Green Ranger]

Stop it. This is being handled, it's been reported, obviously there were some miscommunications and that's being looked into. There's no need to add fuel to the flame. There is already enough tension, and crying about who's being a dick and whatnot will not help anyone learn on either side of this.

No, you stop it. Seriously, this thing you've been doing lately with jumping down people's throats who offer their opinion needs to end. There are problems with the site and we're well within our rights to voice our disagreement with them.

If you don't like people grumbling, fix the damn problems.

 

[Rorren]

I can agree with @Sreeya. Looking over my first post I can see I came off more aggressive than maybe I intended, but at that point I literally had no communication or explanation at any point. I am settling down now, and I'll probably stay on here, even if Bysk is ruled dead in the end.

 

[Sreeya]

I can agree with @Sreeya. Looking over my first post I can see I came off more aggressive than maybe I intended, but at that point I literally had no communication or explanation at any point. I am settling down now, and I'll probably stay on here, even if Bysk is ruled dead in the end.

Honestly, I'd be surprised if it comes to that. Sometimes even older members might be misinformed about how some things work. In the future, if something seems way off, I think it's best to go to ask the person doing it. If that doesn't work, go to admins or, like you had in this case, talk to another veteran member helping out for guidance. Thanks for understanding :)

 

[Lord Potatoe]

Yeah... PvP can be jarring your first few times on this site. I remember my first official PvP, just a day or two ago. Now I had brawled before with an ally in a thread before, but never actual PvP. Now, putting aside the stupid decision of trying to bomb a Mandalorian funeral, I was practically destroyed. Now, this would have been fine, but there were people ignoring things I had put in my posts, and a moderator said it was comepletely fine.

 

[GABA]

No, you stop it. Seriously, this thing you've been doing lately with jumping down people's throats who offer their opinion needs to end. There are problems with the site and we're well within our rights to voice our disagreement with them.

If you don't like people grumbling, fix the damn problems.

Just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean its warranted to announced publicly. If its not helpful, then don't post.

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