Dawn of the Republic: Jedi Knights

[Painus]

Our crusade of light will banish the darkness.

 

[Marcus]

@Enzo

People can play whatever type of Jedi they want, as long as there's an understanding that ranks and advancement through the ranks is going to be based on people being involved in the war. Because the only other rank, which we've tentatively taken to calling Jedi Generals, is 100% military-based. We're not using the Jedi Master rank because, historically on this site, it's been completely useless.

 

[Enzo]

@Enzo

All i needed to know, thanks.

 

[Tsunami]

Why wouldn't you want to be involved in war... I'm going to set your temples on fire.

 

[Enzo]

Becoming a jedi shadow might be a good career choice.

 

[Miz]

Becoming a jedi shadow might be a good career choice.

Maybe I'll make my Jedi a Shadow as well.

 

[CJ Solo]

Fen I wouldn't get too hung up on the paths/specializations/videogame names too much. They're just conceptual ideas that most people are familiar with so it's an easy way to communicate what kind of leanings and tendancies a character will have. A councelor being more support with the war effort through healing other Jedi and civilians and diplomacy to pick up some allies with some fighting wehre its necessary (hopefully people who decide to do this obviously important part of war don't totally get looked down upon because it's not splattered all over a PvP thread), Sentinels kind of being that midline between the aggressive guardian and passive councelor usually off ding more sneaky and investigative stuff... like sniffing out Sith and their strongholds, and guardians being your main warrior types who focus on clashing lightsabers.

It's been made pretty clear, though, no PvP means no progression or recognition in your faction. Just something for peoples to keep in mind.

 

[JollySailorBold]

Fen I wouldn't get too hung up on the paths/specializations/videogame names too much. They're just conceptual ideas that most people are familiar with so it's an easy way to communicate what kind of leanings and tendancies a character will have. A councelor being more support with the war effort through healing other Jedi and civilians and diplomacy to pick up some allies with some fighting wehre its necessary (hopefully people who decide to do this obviously important part of war don't totally get looked down upon because it's not splattered all over a PvP thread), Sentinels kind of being that midline between the aggressive guardian and passive councelor usually off ding more sneaky and investigative stuff... like sniffing out Sith and their strongholds, and guardians being your main warrior types who focus on clashing lightsabers.

It's been made pretty clear, though, no PvP means no progression or recognition in your faction. Just something for peoples to keep in mind.

So we have to PvP to advance in the faction?
Ugh.

 

[Enzo]

Maybe ill see if i can establish the Jedi Medical corps for thoes who want to be battlefeild medics.

 

[JollySailorBold]

I'm fine fighting droids and general enemies and stuff but I find PvP pretty abhorrent

 

[Marcus]

@Jaylor Yes, that's been established in this thread (http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/...ublic-jedi-knights.62838/page-30#post-1225801) and in the main announcement threads. It may be, as some have suggested above, that you can be in PvP but not necessarily be a rawr-fighter. But you can bet that if you hunker back and heal in all PvP missions, you won't go as fast. See, the chance of death and dismemberment and all the other issues that come with freer-form PvP need to apply to all those involved, even the healers. So someone could make their healer, but unless they are truly getting into the "danger" of PvP, they will not progress either.

I wish there were other ways to progress outside PvP as well, but this has been pretty clearly defined for the new TL. Danger and realism = progression and prestige.

 

[JollySailorBold]

think I'm gonna shelve my jedi projects for now, then.

 

[Enzo]

Gonna be a bummer for any pacifist characters

 

[Kibagami]

My Pau'an is a pacifist and loathes fighting, but taking a character out of their comfort zone is where some of the best RP is.

 

[Khivas]

So PvP is pretty much the only way to advance a character, eh? So are there going to be any changes to the way PvP works or are we sticking with a Honor Based free form system?

 

[Fen Vel]

Since the only place to advance is to a single PvP leadership rank the net loss to you not advancing due to not doing PvP is zero as a Jedi. Unless you really wanted a PvP rank without doing the work, which means you lose out completely I guess.

My Jedi isn't a fighter and a terrible one when she has to be at that. There are a host of reasons beyond that the council would see fit to never promote her anyway. The effect on the non PvP content which makes up almost all I do is zero.

So those this puts off, what exactly are you worried about? No one is forcing you to do anything different from you are now.

 

[CJ Solo]

It's still going to be Manon rules, but I've heard they're doing some tweeking/clarifying of them for the next timeline, so we shall see.

The reason I bulk really at the whole PvP or nothing stance about progressing and mattering to the community storyline, is that it feels a bit like a cop out on creativity to have main threads that involve plots that might not end up in a battle royale. Sure, you can still do those other things on the side if you want, make it a story for your own character but you're going to be insignificant in the eys of the faction you are in and the overall storyline just because you're not risking life and limb in each and everything you get involved it.

It's an attempt, supposedly, to fix past problems in other timelines. A little extreme, I think, but it might turn out to not be so extreme once characters and players get settled and find their measure. If it works out in the end, then kudos to those that thought of it.

 

[Marcus]

Grumpy Marcus enters the thread. "Please see this thread (http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/index.php?threads/main-battles-moving-forward.62862/) where this very subject was discussed ad nauseum. Thank you." Grumpy Marcus leaves.

 

[Enzo]

Grumpy Marcus enters the thread. "Please see this thread (http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/index.php?threads/main-battles-moving-forward.62862/) where this very subject was discussed ad nauseum. Thank you." Grumpy Marcus leaves.

Agreed, did not mean for the argument to drag on.

If a Padawan where to fall to the darkside would the master be held accountable for negligence seeing as they are supposed to teach and guide their student?

 

[Miz]

If a Padawan where to fall to the darkside would the master be held accountable for negligence seeing as they are supposed to teach and guide their student?

Yes. Who knows how much valuable information that apprentice may hold, though it would be impossible to pin the full blame on the master.