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I know. At least I'm not spoiling it for anyone else, I'm not that petty.

True.

I'd rather vague posts then someone spoiling it for me.

I know no spoilers so if anyone spoils this game for me I'll ****ing destroy them.
 

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I caught my Hamster, that's all I cared about
 

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Has anyone else had trouble importing their characters face? I can load my save fine, but it won't load my face from ME2
 

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They turned off the demo multiplayer servers. :(
 

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Do these people have no sense of urgency? I just got on the citadel after mars and they're acting like not a damn thing just happened. Earth just got taken behind the shed and shown a "good time" and they're just dawdling, and I'm not talking about the council, I'm talking about the crew, James is just a moron, "I'm just a tourist, I'm going to stay out of trouble." YOUR PLANET JUST GOT HALFWAY BLOWN TO SHIT!! SHOW AN EMOTION YOU PLUM! It just doesn't make any sense character and emotion wise, from their tone you'd think all that happened was a botched mission.

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There is a spoiler thread you numpty.
 

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Also FPJ's lack of a hispanic accent yet using the lingo is hilarious.
 

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Also FPJ's lack of a hispanic accent yet using the lingo is hilarious.

Ay ay ay ay ay! No es bueno! Es la Reapers! ¿Dondé esta la Normandy?
 

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Well, thanks to fb the ending just got ruined for me. Needless to say I'm pissed
 

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I don't really understand the whole Reaper business myself but I'll try to explain my intrepation, and Kaeb, I laughed my ass off at your analogy.

The plot of Mass Effect 2 was a big mess in my opinion. The Collectors didn't really feel like they were well thought out, it was like Bioware pulled an antagonist out of their asses and made them a triagonist as well. "Lol we're Protheans."

It would have been more poignant and appealing if they left the Protheans alone. It wasn't explained well why the Reapers couldn't make a Prothean Reaper (the whole reason behind the Protheans being turned into Collectors), I just don't like the whole Collector business at all.

I absolutely loved the breath taking emptiness of Mass Effect 1. Ilos was my favourite place hands down. The atmosphere was incredible. For the longest time I thought the statues of the weird beings with tentacles coming out of their mouths were the Protheans, but they were the Inusannon who occupied Ilos after their war with the Thoi'han. The picture of the 'Prothean' in the codex is actually an Inusannon husk. The Inusannon were wiped out by the Reapers, and thousands of years later the Protheans found their ruins and learned how to develop mass effect technology. I liked that Bioware gave Ilos that back story. Mass Effect 1 will always be my favourite for the haunting explorations of planets, for the weird crooning noises on the Moon, for the Geth praying to an orb of light on Feros, and for the little tidbits of long gone ancient civilizations buried under ice or planetary dust.

Mass Effect 2 just had this weird feeling to me, and that probably has to do with EA shitting on everything. It was like they put Bioware in these restraints and forced to make it more like a first person shooter and less of a role playing game. I wanted to take the Mako and explore more planets and find little pockets of old structures or strange artifacts. I wanted to tip space cows. Sure, Mass Effect 2 had its interesting moments, it was a good game, but it just didn't have the same feeling as Mass Effect 1.

Of course the series had to progress beyond the back bone that Bioware created with the first game, I just don't like how things progressed.

Mass Effect 3 was amazing, but I wanted to see my fleet of five thousand strong ****. Shit. Up. Good bye Reapers!

But I understand the Reaper's purpose. It's all some big stupid metaphor for how chaos creates chaos. The Reapers are the protagonists shrouded with misunderstood hatred for what they do. The Protheans weren't exactly the nicest people, and the same can be said for us humans. The Reapers exist to stop advanced civilizations from completely ****ing themselves over. So why humans? Why not the Krogan, or Asari, or Turians? It saddens me that we subjected these races to the full brunt of the Reapers.

The Krogan blasted themselves into a nuclear winter and were subjected to the Genophage. The Asari, although advanced, are humble and are already at their own golden age. Turians abide by a strict code of military entitlement and are extremely prideful. Humans? We were forced into this galactic community by finding the Prothean technology on Mars. Ok. So we develop FTL technology and we find this pretty Mass Relay on the edge of the Sol System. First Conctact war happens. That's how absolutely stupid our race is. Remember that episode of South Park where Stan discovers warp speed when his pinewood derby car shoots of into space no thanks to Randy stealing a particle from the Hadron Collider? Look what happened. Humanity was subjected to a test (Space Cash) and we failed miserably. Humans should have been closed off from the galactic community in Mass Effect, we simply weren't ready to explore the vast depths of space. The Reapers knew this was going to happen. We were subjecting the galaxy to our bullshit. We were unrightfully creating chaos. We were like children trying to drive a big rig. At first everything is super fun and then you drive into a propane tank and everyone dies.

One thing I strongly believe is that Harbinger is 'God'. Notice how Harbinger has four glowing 'eyes', like the Protheans? It's said Harbinger is the oldest Reaper. I don't really know how this would work, but the Reapers are pretty good at self replicating via genetic engineering. Harbinger is as old as the universe and has been sleeping in dark space since the dawn of time. To carry on the universe's natural balance, and to prevent species from completely obliterating one another, they MUST stop this from happening. We're forced to believe that the Reapers are horrible machines hellbent on completely destroying civilizations and wiping out any knowledge of their existence. This is not true. The Asari discovered Prothean technologies and were the first to use it, the Protheans discovered mass effect technology from the Inusannon, who discovered it from the race before them and so on. The cycle repeats itself. Eventually what species are left will discover what the galactic community left behind, but with the Reapers now either destroyed or controlled, the cycle has taken a very drastic change for either better or worse. It's not like millions of years ago the galaxy was in a primordial soup of particles and little baby life forms. The derelict Reaper orbiting Mnesmosyne (the allusion to the Greek Goddess of Memory was a nice touch) was disabled by a mass accelerator canon fired by an unknown race 37 millions years ago.

What I'm trying to get at here is that Mass Effect was a brilliant series and I knew it was going to end on an extremely depressing note, but if you've read Oryx and Crake, you'd understand that when science accomplishes everything it wants to accomplish, bad ****ing things happen. Look at Mass Effect from a different Alternate Universe perspective. What if the Reapers didn't exist? What would happen to the Galaxy if these races were left to their own devices? History always repeats itself, unfortunately we couldn't learn from the previous civilization's mistakes because we were under the impression they were subjected to annihilation not for their own mistakes, but because something terrible had happened to them beyond their control.

I'm probably rambling and not making sense, but I hope you get my point!

“That which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction.”
 
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I don't really understand the whole Reaper business myself but I'll try to explain my intrepation, and Kaeb, I laughed my ass off at your analogy.

The plot of Mass Effect 2 was a big mess in my opinion. The Collectors didn't really feel like they were well thought out, it was like Bioware pulled an antagonist out of their asses and made them a triagonist as well. "Lol we're Protheans."

It would have been more poignant and appealing if they left the Protheans alone. It wasn't explained well why the Reapers couldn't make a Prothean Reaper (the whole reason behind the Protheans being turned into Collectors), I just don't like the whole Collector business at all.

I absolutely loved the breath taking emptiness of Mass Effect 1. Ilos was my favourite place hands down. The atmosphere was incredible. For the longest time I thought the statues of the weird beings with tentacles coming out of their mouths were the Protheans, but they were the Inusannon who occupied Ilos after their war with the Thoi'han. The picture of the 'Prothean' in the codex is actually an Inusannon husk. The Inusannon were wiped out by the Reapers, and thousands of years later the Protheans found their ruins and learned how to develop mass effect technology. I liked that Bioware gave Ilos that back story. Mass Effect 1 will always be my favourite for the haunting explorations of planets, for the weird crooning noises on the Moon, for the Geth praying to an orb of light on Feros, and for the little tidbits of long gone ancient civilizations buried under ice or planetary dust.

Mass Effect 2 just had this weird feeling to me, and that probably has to do with EA shitting on everything. It was like they put Bioware in these restraints and forced to make it more like a first person shooter and less of a role playing game. I wanted to take the Mako and explore more planets and find little pockets of old structures or strange artifacts. I wanted to tip space cows. Sure, Mass Effect 2 had its interesting moments, it was a good game, but it just didn't have the same feeling as Mass Effect 1.

Mass Effect 3 was amazing, but I wanted to see my fleet of five thousand strong ****. Shit. Up. Good bye Reapers!

But I understand the Reaper's purpose. It's all some big stupid metaphor for how chaos creates chaos. The Reapers are the protagonists shrouded with misunderstood hatred for what they do. The Protheans weren't exactly the nicest people, and the same can be said for us humans. The Reapers exist to stop advanced civilizations from completely ****ing themselves over. So why humans? Why not the Krogan, or Asari, or Turians?

The Krogan blasted themselves into a nuclear winter and were subjected to the Genophage. The Asari, although advanced, are humble and are already at their own golden age. Turians abide by a strict code of military entitlement and are extremely prideful. Humans? We were forced into this galactic community by finding the Prothean technology on Mars. Ok. So we develop FTL technology and we find this pretty Mass Relay on the edge of the Sol System. First Conctact war happens. That's how absolutely stupid our race is. Remember that episode of South Park where Stan discovers warp speed when his pinewood derby car shoots of into space no thanks to Randy stealing a particle from the Hadron Collider? Look what happened. Humanity was subjected to a test (Space Cash) and we failed miserably. Humans should have been closed off from the galactic community in Mass Effect, we simply weren't ready to explore the vast depths of space. The Reapers knew this was going to happen. We were subjecting the galaxy to our bullshit. We were unrightfully creating chaos. We were like children trying to drive a big rig. At first everything is super fun and then you drive into a propane tank and everyone dies.

One thing I strongly believe is that Harbinger is 'God'. Notice how Harbinger has four glowing 'eyes', like the Protheans? It's said Harbinger is the oldest Reaper. I don't really know how this would work, but the Reapers are pretty good at self replicating via genetic engineering. Harbinger is as old as the universe and has been sleeping in dark space since the dawn of time. To carry on the universe's natural balance, and to prevent species from completely obliterating one another, they MUST stop this from happening. We're forced to believe that the Reapers are horrible machines hellbent on completely destroying civilizations and wiping out any knowledge of their existence. This is not true. The Asari discovered Prothean technologies and were the first to use it, the Protheans discovered mass effect technology from the Inusannon, who discovered it from the race before them and so on. The cycle repeats itself. Eventually what species are left will discover what the galactic community left behind, but with the Reapers now either destroyed or controlled, the cycle has taken a very drastic change for either better or worse. It's not like millions of years ago the galaxy was in a primordial soup of particles and little baby life forms. The derelict Reaper orbiting Mnesmosyne (the allusion to the Greek Goddess of Memory was a nice touch) was disabled by a mass accelerator canon fired by an unknown race 37 millions years ago.

What I'm trying to get at here is that Mass Effect was a brilliant series and I knew it was going to end on an extremely depressing note, but if you've read Oryx and Crake, you'd understand that when science accomplishes everything it wants to accomplish, bad ****ing things happen. Look at Mass Effect from a different Alternate Universe perspective. What if the Reapers didn't exist? What would happen to the Galaxy if these races were left to their own devices?

I'm probably rambling and not making sense, but I hope you get my point!

“That which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction.”

Your anti-humanism is disturbing.
 

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Your anti-humanism is disturbing.
I'm a realist, I see things for how they are, humanity likes to think of itself as the shining pinnacle of evolution when we wouldn't think twice about killing another person not for survival, but for trivial things like possessions, love, and hatred. I don't hate my own species, I hate the things we do.
 

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Some, or all, of that should be in a spoiler box i think. The Reapers reasons for what they're doing is kinda spoiler'ish.
 
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