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So why I dislike Starwars?
What? You dislike Star Wars entirely? I mean, I'm critical of certain aspects of Star Wars as I mentioned, just as much as I thoroughly enjoy others. I feel like your post was really, casually rushed, as there was very little thought or detail put into your points. Maybe you need to sit down when you're not busy and have more of a think about what you're trying to get across, and present it a bit more eloquently.

Hope you don't think I'm singling you out, but I clicked the thread, it showed me the most recent post, y'know. And I have to say, with that viewpoint, I'm surprised you were ever attracted to Star Wars to begin with. The staunch moralities and aversion to grey approaches is a staple and pillar of the Star Wars mythos. If I might guess/ask, were you drawn in by Mandalorians or basically non-Force sensitive characters?
I quite strongly dislike "good vs. evil" stories or "light vs. dark" as I've mentioned previously in this thread. There are many, many aspects to Star Wars that can someone can enjoy beyond just that. I adore the world-building, the aesthetics, the established cultures and lore (like the Sith), the scope of a wide galaxy just open for adventure and the scariness and intrigue of not knowing what lies beyond your own planet. I don't like the stories largely told from those things, with due exceptions (like the OT and TFA, bits of SWTOR). I've used the things I love as a base to write my own stories, akin to my personal vision, for myself to enjoy.

That's what this thread is about, presenting our ideas of our dream Star Wars.
 
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I quite strongly dislike "good vs. evil" stories or "light vs. dark" as I've mentioned previously in this thread. There are many, many aspects to Star Wars that can someone can enjoy beyond just that. I adore the world-building, the aesthetics, the established cultures and lore (like the Sith), but I don't like the stories told from those things, with due exceptions (like the OT and TFA, bits of SWTOR). I've used the things I love as a base to write my own stories, akin to my personal vision, for myself to enjoy.

I'm aware of there's more to Star Wars than Good vs Evil. But that theme is its strongest and most over theme. The overt and conspicuous elements of something, particularly something meant to attract viewers, are normally something that the said viewer already finds attractive or interesting. For sake of argument; a Batman movie might have humor in it, but the pull is a vengeful hero that pummels criminals at night. An X-Men movie might have a sex scene in it, but it is about the acceptance (or lack thereof) and relations between the uprising Mutant race with the rest of humanity, and the struggling implications of what Mutants represent.

Stars Wars' pull, now and in the past, has almost always been Good vs Evil, Jedi vs Sith, Light Side vs Dark Side. That's their pull, their attraction. Now, there's much more to the Star Wars universe and franchise than just that, but you usually find those things out after getting into it first. It's rare to find someone that has gotten into a series when they actually dislike its most popular and iconic theme. That's why I was curious.
 

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@Korvo

Well yes, I appreciate that is the general, overriding theme, but I've simply found enjoyment and inspiration elsewhere in Star Wars. The good vs. evil theme is so blatant and massive, it feels forced and spoon-fed, so I dig through it in search for something more intriguing. That's just how my thinking works though, it's like, "ok, I get it, what else can I find in here."

As a child, I was enthralled by the image of Darth Vader. He was this ominous monster trapped in terrifying armour, and it made me want to know more about him. When I saw the films, I was captivated by the tragedy and conflict of this brutal, but broken character. That's what pulled me to Star Wars. Even as a kid, the overriding, major themes didn't appeal to me. I was more interested in the complexity of this one villain, which I suppose is how I originally got into the Sith, because I'm attracted to selected, particular things.

That's not even what this thread is about though, we're not deciding what would be better for the actual franchise, but our personal vision of Star Wars. My ideas sure as hell wouldn't work as canon or legends material, but they give me great joy to immerse myself in regardless, which is what is important to me.

Basically, I am an enormous weirdo who becomes obsessed with things which are obscure or almost entirely unheard of. #aspergers

Like who the fuck would get so into the three Sith archetypes which are mentioned about 4 times in actual canon? :p
 
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Hope you don't think I'm singling you out, but I clicked the thread, it showed me the most recent post, y'know. And I have to say, with that viewpoint, I'm surprised you were ever attracted to Star Wars to begin with. The staunch moralities and aversion to grey approaches is a staple and pillar of the Star Wars mythos. If I might guess/ask, were you drawn in by Mandalorians or basically non-Force sensitive characters?

Your all good man, I dont get offended easy. And your points are valid.

And I don't really know what your asking for in the above. Drawn in to Star Wars? Or Drawn in to the Site SWRP? So I'll just answer both. Well I'm Drawn in to Star Wars simply because I like this Site, this site is just about the only reason I am a Starwars Fan, that and my name is Luke and you have no idea how many "Luke I am NOT your father" jokes I go through.

Now why was I drawn in to the Site?

I have no idea. I was sitting in my Law-Enforcement class, on a school laptop and I was browsing the internet, not wanting to do my assignment, until I found the site and was all like "this seems cool" then I made a username and all that good stuff. Literally just like that. Im not a writer, I was never a big Starwars fan and now this site takes up a lot of my time, and I love it.

It had nothing to do with the theme of Starwars, nor did it have to do with its universe or characters (except maybe Luke and Han) or world building or plots or anything like that. It simply... Happened.

What? You dislike Star Wars entirely? I mean, I'm critical of certain aspects of Star Wars as I mentioned, just as much as I thoroughly enjoy others. I feel like your post was really, casually rushed, as there was very little thought or detail put into your points. Maybe you need to sit down when you're not busy and have more of a think about what you're trying to get across, and present it a bit more eloquently.

Ya, I see now how it can come across as causally rushed. That's twice now you've checked me, so thank you. ;)

Now my points were still there just a little harder to find I think. This thread is Re-Imagining Star Wars.

So what is Star Wars?

Well like I said, it's Good vs Evil. That's its main theme, like Korvo said, and I don't like that. I just never really have liked good and evil stories, mainly because there all the same and I like "Grey" stories-characters-settings.

So that's one thing I'd change, that's my reimagining. I'd make Darker characters, Darker worlds, stories and settings. I'd make the good guys loose and loose bad.

A bunch of ewoks with wooden bows, against some troopers? Ewoks go down, simple as that.

Now the "Chosen One" plot device, or whatever its called.

I'd simply scrap the idea of the Skywalkers. Don't really care for it all that much.

But after all this, don't get me wrong. I like Starwars, its just the reason why I like Starwars has much to do with this Site. And the more I read on "Wookiepedia" the more I like it. I recently downloaded SWTOR on my tablet and I LOVE that damn game. The story of Reven and Malek is awesome. That is probably my favorite Star Wars era.

So yes Marf, I do like Starwars, I just don't like the above points. And that's what I'd change. Hope this is more clear.
 

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Well, the EU would never exist if my version of Star Wars would have coincided with the real one, so I'd throw that out the table immediately. The prequels would also obviously not exist.

Kaeb's vision and mine could maybe coincide in an ideal world. The Jedi would be a culture of wandering philosopher monk-ronin in their golden age, or if I set it in a period similar to the OT, the last survivors of an intellectual holocaust. Galactic superstructure would be a decadent Roman empire too bloated and too wrapped up in its own byzantine politics to be effective at basically anything. I would probably make the technology and general setting darker and grittier, because it's how I prefer my sci-fi, and clean out a lot of the fluff.

To be honest, the end result would not resemble Star Wars at all. Star Wars is a deeply flawed work of art. I enjoy [the OT] as much for its achievement as for the actual creation, which, from what I've been led to believe, was in and of itself the result of various other creators going to great ends to save George Lucas from himself.

The bubbling cauldron recipe for my reimagined Star Wars would be: a bit of the OT, generous amounts of Dune, sprinkled references to seminal works of other great science fiction authors, philosophy and historical parallels to taste, and seasoned with Blade Runner and my own original blend.
 

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I also hate the Chosen One/Prophecy concept that was introduced in the movies, I think it retroactively detracts from the mystique of the adventure. If a hero is predetermined, then to me, they feel less and less like a hero. If someone takes up arms and decides to become a hero. Then that is different.

I didn't really want to talk about the prequels much, although it is partly the inspiration for this thread being about 'your perfect version of Star Wars', but I did basically rewrite them ages ago, with some back and forth with Bac at one point. There, the majority of my work was in attempting to stay true to the tenants of what was established in A New Hope, Empire and some of Jedi. In my ideas, we suppose that nothing but the Original Trilogy exists and because some things are already pre-supposed by what we end up seeing in the Original Trilogy, then you show them what they don't know, make it interesting and add to the narrative rather than detract from it.

In my story, Ben starts out as a lost young man, who has tried to be a Jedi, but is failing.

As a wandering teen, he lost his mother when their colony ship lost power, because the children were put closest to the life support systems, they were the only ones to survive. Eventually he encounters Yoda while wandering through a barren world, with burned down forests as far as the eye can see and Yoda takes him in. Ben is his only name, he isn't Obi Wan. He just knows Ben. Because he screws up so many times as a student, Yoda gives him a task. He is left on a world in the Outer Rim, riddled with slavery and oppression. The Jedi are spread thin trying to keep the peace and can't attack the Hutts outright who control these slave worlds because it would be a dumb move. Ben is planted undercover as a slave, to find a way to free them. The world is called Tatooine. Ben is in his 20's.

Ben is a gatherer, someone who wanders outside of the protection of the city walls to get resources or to hunt. He uses a beacon in the desert to contact Yoda. Through his comedic/warrior arhetype friend Beru Lars, a slave inducted into the guard of the settlement, he is protected, and convenes with other slaves to incite a rebellion, by trying to reach the slaves out in the wastes. It is rumoured that those who have somehow fled, have formed their own settlement, guarded by a great beast known as the 'Desert Savage'. Ben's signal to Yoda that it is time is received, right when Yoda is fleeing his own danger. He has been safe guarding a project condoned by the Republic to create a machine capable of creating and harnessing stars for unlimited power. A light to unite the galaxy, unlimited energy. The silly working title for this, was 'the Life Star'. So it's not just another superweapon like we've had before. It's attacked by an unknown enemy, led by a woman who uses the force. This unites the two plots. Freeing the worlds not in the Republic, and protecting the Republic.

Anyway, long story short, when they flee into the desert seeking the free slaves, pursued by this enemy, they are attacked by a giant beast. They think it's the Desert Savage. Yoda tries to communicate with it through the Force, it starts to work, but a figure leaps from a rock above with a sword and slays it, emerging from the cloud of sand is a young man clad in armour from head to toe, made of bone. Skull mask and all. He lifts it up to reveal a young man, maybe 16. His name is John, the Desert Savage. Protector of the Free People. A former slave, Yoda sees the Force in him and great loss. One that draws Ben and John together, they both didn't know their parents. John is training and preparing the Free People to get off world. He made a flight simulator out of a crashed Hutt ship, basically an arcade machine, on which he has the high score. The others call him 'the Skywalker'.

Ben, John, Yoda and other characters, ignite a slave rebellion, they take back the land, resources and steal the ships and weapons from the Hutts and free their worlds. Uniting as a fleet, they take back the Life Star and are welcomed into the Republic. John has nowhere to go, nowhere to call home, Yoda thinks Ben and John can heal one another, believing Ben to be ready to train someone else, as old wandering Jedi would do as they became wise, to guide others on the right path. Yoda tells them of an old tradition, that Jedi would cast away their old selves, taking on new names. They ask Yoda if that's even his real name, he smiles, giving him even more mystique. They take on the names Obi Wan and Anakin. Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker.

SIDE NOTE: They do all of this with the help of volunteers in the Republic as the Republic has no standing army. Yoda seeks out his allies in the Mid-Rim on the planet Alderaan, currently ruled by House Arethena. Alderaan is basically Westeros from Game of Thrones, locked in a constant struggle between endless Houses and Clans vying for power. Arethena are notoriously corrupt and mad, and are served by other houses, as houses occupy different roles. House Organa has fallen from grace and are now basically servants. The protectors of the Queen are handmaidens, one is named Kira, a handmaiden herself. They are both maids and bodyguards, expertly trained warriors. Kira Organa, if it wasn't already obvious, is Luke and Leia's mother, eventually. Kira catches the eye of both Ben and John, but she is not simply a love interest, she wants to do what's right for her world and the Republic and she's really the most capable main character of the story. I was just reading my notes and forgot about this part.

Anyway.

That would have been my Episode I.
 
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Well, this has been interesting to read. Here's what I would do if I were to reimagine Star Wars.

Now I'm going to keep the Prequels, but change their focus. Obi-wan Kenobi is our main character in the Prequels, and it's through him that we see the overarching Fall of Anakin Skywalker, much like Luke was the main character of the Originals and through him we see the Redemption of Darth Vader. Anakin Skywalkers fall from grace is a *good* story in concept, but it was poorly done in the films - it also robbed a lot of the ambiguity and shock of Darth Vaders relationship to Luke and Leia in the OT because GL apparently believes the only way to convey symbolism is by ramming it into your face repeatedly.

The Clone Wars needs to be a real conflict and we need to see character development. Don't tell us how bad the war is, or what close friends and near brothers Anakin and Obi-wan are, *SHOW IT TO US!!!!* I WANT scenes showing the visceral nature of fighting f a war that goes against the principles of the Jedi Order. I want to see Kenobi and Skywalker fighting together in sync, conveying their experiences and trust with one another -- if Anakins betrayal is supposed to hurt us emotionally, we need to feel and see what was lost in the betrayal. Show, not tell.

Highlights: No Jar Jar, Maul is the consistent villain of the Prequels (with Palpatine as the manipulative power orchestrating his rise to the highest seat of power until Episode 3 where his duplicitous role is discovered but he is too firmly entrenched to be taken down), I'll keep Order 66 but redesign it by showing the death of Jedi that have actually had real meaningful on screen interactions over the course of the trilogy in order to make the moment have a real impact rather than just CGI fest that requires deep delving into the EU to even care about the Jedi who have barely spoken in all 3 films, if at all. Finally, Episode 3 ends with the apparent death of Anakin Skywalker, without having ever been named Darth Vader. The notion of Palpatine wanting Anakin as his apprentice will still be conveyed in the third film, but the duel between Obi-wan and Anakin should end in a way that would lead Obi-wan (and thus the audience) to believe him dead, and it's only later in the early years of his hermitage that he learns of Darth Vader and realizes his identity. Future generations should be able to watch the films in Episodic Order without having the familial revelations of the OT being spoiled by the Prequel Trilogy.
 

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The whole future generations thing was basically my motivation as well. Imagine this like we were seeing it all for the first time, keep it fresh.
I guess after people react a little to my Ep 1 outline I'll post 2 and 3, kinda busy right now for real real.
 

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I also hate the Chosen One/Prophecy concept that was introduced in the movies, I think it retroactively detracts from the mystique of the adventure. If a hero is predetermined, then to me, they feel less and less like a hero.
Agreed. The mystery and adventure has always been what has attracted me to Star Wars. The seemingly eternal void of a massive galaxy, and the scary and intriguing thought of what lies beyond the world you know. That's exciting, not the boring, clear-cut fight between good and evil. I loved Rey's character in The Force Awakens, because she was essentially a nobody, a random wanderer suddenly caught up in something extraordinary. I'll be sorely disappointed if she turns out to have a prophesied destiny, or to be the relative of another major character.
 

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So we're all in agreement that Hayden Christensen ruined Star Wars?

I mean, look at his face. It's so punchable.
 

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George Lucas writing killed the Star Wars prequels. The acting and delivery of the script was the nail in the coffin.
 

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Any other ideas?

Have you read the new Force Powers timeline update? If so, would you have liked the Force to be represented as such in the prequel trilogy?
 

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Have you read the new Force Powers timeline update? If so, would you have liked the Force to be represented as such in the prequel trilogy?
Nah, care to enlighten me?
 

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I've been holding off on my take on Star Wars Cause honestly most of the stuff seen in the shows...yes even the prequels...was ok. However, After reading some of the stuff here and watching the OT again, I have to say I'd love to see Star Wars in a new way.

Basically the Galaxy as a whole consisting of bounty hunters, gangsters, a republic, etc. Not going to lie Never had much of a problem with it it was ok lol

As for the Sith and Jedi? @Kaeb had the right idea that I agree wholeheartedly about the Jedi. Instead of them being a bunch of stoic monks that are more Knights Templar than Samurai, they should be more...well...Samurai, wandering warriors that help the weak and helpless and are more nomadic than set at one particular Temple. It makes more sense to me IMO, and not only that I'd like to have them be cheery. We need more Quinlan Vos dammit! Some of those charismatic and fun loving jokesters with some badassery mixed in to level them out. Now does that mean we have to do away with mystic elders? No, there would be a sort of "Hub Temple" they would go to for guidance, training, and meditation, somewhere they could rest after a long journey and such, and the Elders who too old or frail to travel would stay there to instruct the next generation of Jedi while the younger more capable are nomadic.

And the Sith? @Marf You nailed my thoughts of the Sith ON THE NAIL! I mean, where as the Jedi were wild Ronin/Cowboy like Nomads who go about helping the weak and oppressed, the Sith were the structured, segregative, oppressive Empire with an organized hierarchy and so on. I mean, when I see the Jedi and Sith, and compare them to RL peeps, I see the Ronin/Cowboy as how the Jedi would be, and the Sith as the Roman Empire (Hell the Sith Language was based on Latin, the language of the Romans. Coincidence? I THINK NOT! o_O)

As for the Force, believe it or not Kyle Katarn of all peeps had the right idea. Yes there is a Light, Yes there is a Dark, however it is the intentions of the wielders that decide their outcome. Light=positive emotions Dark=negative emotions but the concept of being good or evil is entirely up to the person weilding that power. I mean even the most Dark of Dark Siders could naturally be good but use negative emotions to accomplish their goals and the most Light of Light Siders can be evil.

well there it is, let it stand and see how it goes lol.
 

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I don't even think they should have temples.

I think of them more like being caught in a state of constant pilgrimage. The Force is a storm and Force users are wandering lightning rods. There's a burden in that, they provide energy but there's a danger in that too. They're still human. They still love. They get turned on. They become afraid. It's not about being some fucking puritan paladin, perfect human being. It's about BALANCE (another reason the movies are fucking dumb), because people are more complex than that.

To quote the real hero, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, ''We are all wearing masks. That is what makes us interesting.''

There's a western nature to it too obviously. A poor town (planet) is having some trouble with some pirates (space pirates), raiding their homes, kidnapping people, killing mercilessly etc. A stranger (Jedi) with the power to help wanders into town. They're flawed. Mysterious. A past shadows them. They help the town and experience real feeling along the way. Maybe even falling in love. Maybe even killing. The entire time, they have to keep themselves from exploding from the inside out, by again, maintaining balance.

So they can throw pirates through walls, mind trick patrons into giving them information using the force...but they if they draw too much of that pool of energy, they'll go nuclear. Which is when they fall to 'the dark side', which is just a Jedi term for what lies below the surface of balance, when you sink deep into the dark recesses of the Force, becoming what is essentially a drug addict who needs more power to survive. No Sith faction. No organised Jedi faction. Just people.
 

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I like Star Wars two different ways:
  1. Triumphant, upbeat, space fantasy and mythology with great aesthetics. (e.g. The Original Trilogy, parts of the old EU pertaining to the OT, and KOTOR).
  2. Deconstructed Star Wars (e.g. KOTOR II)
Knights of the Old Republic I is one of my favorite role-playing games of all time, and one my favorite pieces of Star Wars lore not pertaining to the original trilogy. I would go as far to say that KOTOR was everything that the Prequel Trilogy should have been in terms of pacing, storytelling, aesthetics, and character development. It's pretty damning when The Phantom Menace, a two hour movie, feels slower than a game that takes 12-30 hours to complete. While the game does stand on its own, it borrows so much from the Original Trilogy that it complements it wonderfully. It isn't bogged down political melodrama, and the end goal is straightforward enough to keep you invested. It even has a plot twist alla The Empire Strikes Back, go figure. Both KOTOR I and The Original Trilogy offer simple and engaging tropes that good triumphs over evil in a big, bombastic way. I have no problem with that plot element, as it makes for very satisfying entertainment.

KOTOR II on the other hand does the exact opposite of its predecessors and basically most of the Star Wars lore. It breaks down the duality of the Jedi and the Sith, which so much of the rest of Star Wars lore depends on. I think this was an important thing to do since even back in 2004, when the game was released, Star Wars had become bogged down with the tropes and archetypes that were so endearing. I loved the main question that the confronted me with as a player: Are the Jedi truly good? The Jedi are presented in an almost authoritarian light, as brokers of power who can sever an individual from the force at a whim. They're also presented as complacent and week, too afraid to confront the Mandolorians, too weak to keep all their padawans and knights from leaving. I also love the way that they present Darth Nihilus. Unlike Palpatine, who I love with all my heart, Nihilus is simply beyond him as a character. He doesn't care for political machinations, he is simply a man who has become so empty that he craves the very life-essence of the universe itself. Holy. Shit.

I could write a thesis on why the prequels miss the mark, but that's been done over-and-over again. Ultimately, they lack the pomp, triumph, and plot simplicity that made the Originals, and KOTOR, so satisfying, and they never pushed the lore to the point of meaningful deconstruction.

And for what it is worth, I will always prefer the simplicity and fun of the Original Trilogy. That is what will always make Star Wars endearing. It just resonates with a part of our psyche that is stimulated by cathartic drama that Aristotle would get. So in short, my dream for Star Wars, whatever medium it is presented to me in, is for it to either hit the sweet spot for enjoyable catharsis, or for meaningful deconstruction of the lore.
 
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I wish the Clone Wars lasted longer. 3 years is damn quick by real life standards
 

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Seeing A: I don't want to bore peeps and waste valuable SWRP space making a separate Thread and B this place looks better for It i'm not going to lie, when it comes to say...>>...<<...The Prequels. I'd re imagine them slightly...different. Note @Staff. If this is not the proper place, I shall make a thread if i have to :p Also note: There are some changes to certain characters and outright omissions if need be. Just be forewarned lol. With that out of the way...lets begin...

Episode 1: The Clone Wars have begun*! The Separatists, led by Count Dooku, are waging a war with the already fragile and corrupt Galactic Republic. Chancellor Valorum, unable to see this threat is unable to stop it all the while completely blindsided by his confidant and friend Senator from Naboo, Sheev Palpatine (who is of course Darth Sidious and he and Dooku are playing both sides like in the original PT). Accusing his former friend of incompetence and failure to resolve this crisis, moves for a vote of no confidence and nominates himself as one of the candidates for Supreme Chancellor. In order to show the Citizens of the Republic that he is the best candidate for the job, he begins donating monies to support not only the poor and victims of the Separatists onslaught, but grant moral support to the weakening Jedi Order.

Meanwhile, as Darth Sidious, He is continuing to undermine the Senates attempts to gain peace before the War even begins. All the while, he gains control of the Clone Army that he had been secretly building up since his inauguration as Senator of Naboo. As for Count Dooku, his reasons for leaving is that he sees the Republic Corrupt, the Jedi weak, and the Galaxy as a whole on the verge of collapse. To make matters worse, he has discovered the the Sith are indeed very much alive in the forms of Darth Sidious and his acolyte Darth Maul (Yes in this one he is not a full on apprentice therefore circumventing the Rule of Two). Dooku feigns loyalty and takes on Darth Tyranus as his Sith name and becomes Sidious' apprentice (which sparks a rivalry between him and Maul), all the while planning the Sith's downfall from within, albeit he is slowly succumbing to the Dark Side regardless of his initial intentions.

As for the Jedi, the Dark Side Shrine under their temple has weakened them considerably to the point they failed to foresee and stop the coming Clone Wars. It is during looming chaos of the Clone Wars that Master Qui-Gon Jinn and his young and reckless Padawan Obi-Wan Kenobi are sent to the desert planet of Tatooine to secure an alliance with the Hutts. While Qui-Gon is negotiating with the Hutts, he senses a presence on the planet who is extremely strong in the Force, prompting him to send Obi-Wan to investigate. It is here that we introduce 9-Year-Old Anakin Skywalker, a slave boy who keeps his mother and himself alive via working at Watto's junkyard and podracing. Obi-Wan, at first astonished by the young boy's skill in both piloting and his connection to the Force, attempts not once but twice to free Anakin and his mother. First by paying for his freedom (which thanks to Watto's greed fails) then by Mind Trick (I think you know why this doesn't work). It is after consulting with Qui-Gon that Obi-Wan decides to trust in both the Force and the Boy.

It is at this time that the local Podrace comes up and Obi-Wan secretly helps Anakin enter the latter's racer in under the guise of the pod belonging to Obi-Wan. Anakin wins both his and his mother's freedom after Obi-Wan cleverly plays on Watto's greed. At the same time, Qui-Gon has succeeded in securing the Hutts alliance and all is looking good for the Republic. However it is here that the Separatists launch an attack on the Hutts in retaliation for the Hutts allegiance to the Republic. The GAR/Hutt Cartel forces successfully repel the Separatists, but at a terrible cost to Anakin. In the attack, his Mother was killed in the crossfire, dying as Anakin cradles her in his arms. It is this that sparks the rage and hatred for the Separatists in Anakin, preparing his journey down the Dark Path.

After burying his mother, Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Qui-Gon depart Tatooine and back to Coruscant. However, they are detoured when the peaceful world of Alderann falls under attack. It is here that Anakin not only gets his second taste of battle, but it is where he meets Padme Organa, sister to Bail Organa who is prince consort and senator of Alderaan. He is immediately smitten by her but she is more concerned with her people's safety. Her courage and kindness prompts Anakin to stand and fight with the others, earning her respect and admiration. After the Separatists have been repelled, the quartet leave for Coruscant and make landfall. Qui-Gon takes Padme to her brother Bail and Obi-Wan takes Anakin to the Temple to be placed into protective custody. After as series of tests, they discover not only is his medichlorian count is high, but that he could be the Chosen One of legend. However, given the possible danger of his training, they refuse to take him into their teachings. Obi-Wan, outraged that such a prodigy would be cast aside like this, vows to Anakin that he will train him like Yoda and Qui-Gon did.

It is during this time that the world of Mandalore falls once again under threat of violence but instead of civil war, it is the Separatists. Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon are originally sent there, but Anakin stows away aboard to help them as they and a disguised Padme head to Mandalore. It is here that the quartet take part in a vicious battle. Padme shows her leadership skills by helping the Jedi/Mandalore/Clone Forces on the Ground, Anakin demonstrates his incredible piloting skills in space, and both Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon fight their way till they come across Dooku and Maul. Seeing the Sith have returned, the two Jedi and the two Sith have at one another. Dooku V Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan V Maul. The duels force the quartet to split up so that they are two separate duels. It is here that Obi-Wan proves his mettle and defeats Maul, cutting him down and proving his worth as a Jedi Knight. However, as he goes to help his master, he finds to his horror that Dooku has bested his former Padawan and cut him down. Obi-Wan watches as his master falls and Dooku escapes as the tide turns in favor of the Republic. Dooku escapes, while Qui-Gon utters that Anakin is indeed the Chosen One before he dies. The Separatists escape and the Republic is Victorious.

Anakin, Padme, and Obi-Wan return to Coruscant to bury Qui-Gon and Kenobi is knighted. However, in a bold move, he takes Anakin as his Padawan, fulfilling his promises to both Anakin and Qui-Gon. Yoda and the rest of the Council are wary of this as Anakin is inducted as a Learner of the Order. He later visits Padme, promising to visit her whenever he can before giving her a surprise kiss. This sparks an attraction that will later blossom into a romance later on in their lives. Meanwhile, Palpatine, using all that has happened in his campaign, wins the votes by a landslide and becomes Supreme Chancellor of the Republic. In a secret meeting between him and Dooku, he declares that there has been a disturbance in the Force. One which that if unchecked could threaten to destroy their plans before they came to fruition. Dooku asks do they know what their threat is, Sidious says only one word...Skywalker...

End of Episode 1
*Think Peter Cullen's voice saying that. If you've ever seen the Trailer for Star Wars:Clone Wars on Toonami...that LOL

Ok after catching my breath, lets pick up where I left off shall we?

Episode 2: The Clone Wars rage on! It has been almost 10 years since the outbreak of this vicious pan-galactic conflict, which has caused untold losses and destruction. Palpatine, leader of the Republic, is slowly consolidating power and ensuring more executive powers are ran through him. He slowly and quietly takes power from the Senate each passing week, causing some concern with the watchful Jedi. However they are distracted, as the Chancellor anointed them Generals of the GAR, a post they've held for ten years now. As for where we left Obi-Wan and Anakin Skywalker, the former has grown into a fully realized Knight of the Republic maturing to greater extent while his Padawan is a somewhat "Clone" of his master during his youth IE being Reckless and Daring.

As for Anakin and Padme, they have been secretly corresponding with one another over the years. They would either send one another secret transmissions or whenever convenient would meet in person. Over the course of ten years their childish flirtation has evolved into a budding romance, blossoming for the young and happy couple. However, due to their commitments (Anakin as a Jedi Padawan and Padme as the newest Senator of Alderaan), they have to put their efforts into resolving the conflict before their own interests. It becomes more turbulent when an attempt on both her and her brother's life by the Separatists force them into hiding, which puts a bigger strain on Padme Organa and Anakin Skywalker's romance. This also puts more and more frustration on Anakin's shoulders, which is coupled with his frustration that after ten years the council does not let him partake the trials even though most of his peers already have. Not even Obi-Wan's confidence that they will give him his Trials stems his growing resentment for the council and his own festering anger. It is this that Palpatine sees in Anakin as a possible gateway to turn him to the Dark Side. Palpatine begins having Anakin become his closest friend and confidant, with Anakin seeing Palpatine as a man he can trust during these tumultuous times.

Over the course of the Episode, we see Anakin's frustration and rage fester as he witnesses the horrors of the Clone Wars visited upon the innocent and defenseless, trying in vain to ensure what happened to his mother does not happen to others. Obi-Wan senses this and tries to convince the council to let Anakin begin his trials. They tell him that though Anakin has completed many of the trials via through the Clone Wars, the Trials of the Flesh and the Trials of the Spirit have yet to be completed. Therefore, they employ Anakin to commence his two remaining Trials So that he can attain Knighthood. Anakin, confident that he can complete these trials, goes ahead with the Trial of the Spirit. It is here that he faces not only his inner demons, but witnesses a possible future (The Downfall of himself and the Order, and events of the Original Trilogy, however he does not see what happens next as he witnesses a young boy being electrocuted by a hooded figure as he is interrupted during the vision). Before he can complete the vision, he is informed that Padme has been abducted and Bail is in critical condition. Anakin, fearing the loss of his love, races to save her with Obi-Wan and the 501st Legion in tow.

It is on Geonosis that Anakin rescues Padme from the confines of her prison, but leads the assault on Geonosis with a stunning victory that puts him on the holoscreens as a great hero of the Republic. It is here that both he and Obi-Wan face Dooku for the first time in almost a decade. Obi-Wan, wanting justice for what Dooku did ten years ago, attempts to subdue him with the help of Anakin. The trio duke it out through the catacombs of Geonosis while Padme assists in the mopping up of the Separatists, hoping the Jedi will capture Dooku and end the Clone Wars here and now. Sadly the two Jedi are separated and Obi-Wan contests with a new enemy: General Grevious, who proves he is more than a match for the Jedi Knight. Elsewhere, Anakin faces Dooku alone, displaying his incredible skill and strength in the Force. However, his overconfidence gets the better of him and Dooku manages to cut off his arm. Anakin, caught by his fear of dying, taps into the Dark Side as his fear turns to anger and with a single hand, manages to almost beat Dooku into submission. It is only the timely arrival of Padme does Anakin come to his senses. This however allows Dooku to escape and the Clone Wars continue.

Grevious, hearing that Count Dooku has escaped, withdraws his forces and escapes as well, leaving the Republic Victorious but severely injured. The trio returns to Coruscant, Anakin is given a bionic arm and is soundly knighted by the Council before Obi-Wan and Padme. Obi-Wan is granted the rank of Master like Qui-Gon before him and the two friends look at one another in triumph. Later on, after Padme sees that Bail is recovering, she later meets with Anakin in secret. The two reaffirm their love for one another and Anakin boldly asks her to marry him, throwing caution to the wind. She accepts and the two happily marry. The Jedi do not take notice, as they are not only concerned with the growing chaos that is the Clone Wars, but also the fact that the Senate is giving Palpatine more and more power.

Sidious meets with Tyranus later on, learning from his apprentice that Anakin may have a weakness for the young Princess of Alderaan. Palpatine grins as he sees her as a possible way to turn Anakin over to the Dark Side. It is during this time that they intensify their efforts to conclude the War, however situations beyond their control makes the war go on for 6 more years. All the while, as the Galaxy endures this bloody and horrific War, the Republic slowly becomes...An Empire...

End Episode 2

Alright, after a FINAL breather, lets wrap this up Shall we?!

Episode 3: The Clone Wars continue! As the horrendous atrocities committed on both sides take their toll, the Chancellor slowly begins his ascension into an Imperial State, preparing for the final stage in his plans. It has now been Six years since the Battle of Geonosis, and Anakin Skywalker has become one of the greatest Generals of the Republic and one of the Greatest Jedi the Order has ever witnessed. He has proven himself as one of the best starpilots in the Galaxy and a Cunning Warrior. Obi-Wan Kenobi has earned himself the same amount of reputation, earning himself the nickname "The Negotiator" due to his superb skills in the field of arbitration and negotiation. However, in the former's case, his fame is slightly going to his head as a rift between him and his wife Padme, now a possible candidate for Chancellorship, grows. Palpatine, hellbent on gaining Anakin as an apprentice to the Dark Side, uses this rift to further draw Anakin to him.

During the Battle of Kashyyk, Anakin and Dooku engage their forces, facing one another in another one of their duels. The duel and the battle comes to a conclusion when Anakin slices off Dooku's right arm, a sort of poetic justice for Dooku taking Anakin's arm 6 years before. A wounded Dooku and his army withdraw from Kashyyk as Anakin stands victorious and with arrogance in his eyes. When he returns to Coruscant, Palpatine showers him in praise, going so far as to anoint him Supreme Commander of the GAR. As Anakin relishes of his infamy, he gets a surprise from Padme, who informs him of something astonishing: She has discovered that she is pregnant. This stuns Anakin, as he realizes that he has a chance at a family when the war ends. As he contemplates all this, he finally decides that when the War ends, he will retire from the Order and settle down with Padme Organa.

Meanwhile, on Utapau, Obi-Wan engages his rival General Grevious for the last time as they clash their forces. The battle ends in victory as Obi-Wan finally defeats the Droid General and takes out one of the last leaders of the Seperatist. There only leaves Dooku now, who is said to be hiding on Mustafar. Palpatine, seizing his chance to finally finish his plan in the making, order's Anakin to Mustafar. It is during this time that Padme, suspicious of Palpatine's motives, investigates him and discovers that he is the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Sidious. However, before she escapes she is captured by the Dark Lord and subjected to torture by him. However, he fails to realize that she sent a warning to the Jedi Council who discovers Palpatine's identity.

The Jedi Masters Yoda, Mace Windu, and others head to Palpatine's Chancellor Mansion to rescue both Padme and arrest Palpatine. The attempt ends in the death of Windu, the scarring of Palpatine, and the others and Yoda rescuing Padme and getting her to safety at the Temple. Enraged that he could be exposed, he jumps ahead of schedule and orders all but the Clones under Anakin to execute Order 66, ordering his own personal Legion to assault the Temple. One by one, the Jedi are butchered and killed. Palpatine's Legion lays siege to the Temple on Corsucant, killing all but a few escaping Jedi. Cheif among them is Yoda with Padme in tow as they flee to Polis Mesa.

Palpatine uses Padme's disappearance to his advantage and informs Anakin that the Jedi have discovered a secret about him and "Dealt with it" he also informs that his childhood friend Padme Organa has gone missing. Anakin, assuming that the Jedi murdered Padme and his unborn baby, bursts into rage as he assaults Mustafar, leading his Legion against the Separatists and cornering Dooku. In the midst of their hellish battle, Anakin, flowing with anger and hatred, finally succumbs to the Dark Side and kills Dooku. He reports this to Palpatine, who tells him that Obi-Wan was responsible for the discovery. Driven further into the Dark Side via Anger for this "Betrayal" Anakin informs Palpatine that he will kill Obi-Wan for this. It is here that Palpatine reveals himself to Anakin as Sidious the Sith Lord, promising him in exchange for his loyalty he would give him Obi-Wan for revenge. Anakin takes the knee and declares himself Palpatine's Apprentice. It is here that he is anointed the Sith name Darth Vader.

Meanwhile, Obi-Wan survives his Clones betrayal, fearing that Anakin is in danger on Mustafar. He arrives to find Anakin's fleet in orbit but no one shooting him. He makes it to the surface, only to find that Anakin has fallen to the Dark Side, and hell bent on killing him. The two former friends engage in a fierce lightsaber duel against one another, which results in Anakin's maiming and being burned alive by the lava's of Mustafar. Obi-Wan, lamenting the loss of a former friend, takes Anakin's lightsaber and uses his friend's own starfighter and droid (R2-D2) to escape from the 501st. Obi-Wan manages to make it to Polis Messa, where he arrives just in time to witness Padme give birth to not one but two babies, each a boy and a girl. Padme, finally succumbing to the wounds inflicted by Sidious, names them Luke and Leia, while reaffirming her love for Anakin as she dies. Obi-Wan, heartbroken by this tragedy, escapes Polis Messa with Yoda, the twins, and Padme's corpse with the timely rival of Bail Organa. The group agrees that the twins should be split up and hidden. Bail reveals that his wife was expecting a child, but the baby was stillborn. However, the announcement has not been made yet so Leia could stand in for Bails lost child. Obi-Wan comes up with his own plan, secretly contacting his brother Owen on Stewjon, where the two meet at an undisclosed location. It is there that Obi-Wan gives Owen Luke, and the newly anointed "Uncle Owen" disappears to as it turns out, to Tatooine. Obi-Wan and Yoda, now two of the only Jedi left, play decoy while Bail Organa takes his new "Daughter" and Uncle Owen takes his "Nephew" to safety. Bail buries his beloved sister, Yoda goes to Dagobah in exile, and Obi-Wan, after evading the Clones, heads to Tatooine to watch over Luke.

The Final Act is Sidious finding a mutilated albeit alive Vader. He takes him back to Coruscant, where Sidious gives Vader a New Suit of Armor and prosthesis. After fixing his new Apprentice, Sidious uses the Jedi's attempt on his life, the death of Dooku, and the whole scenario as a whole, to reorganize the Republic into the first Galactic Empire as a promise to never allow such a hellacious conflict like the Clone Wars to ever happen again. And with that, the Clone Wars come to a close, the Empire Rises, the Long Dark begins, an A New Hope grows...

End of Episode 3

And with that My take on the Prequel Trillogy is DONE! WHEW! Crap that was nuts! So guys! Tell me what you think?
 
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Star wars to me is amazing in the sense that there is so much potential. Though I have to agree with @Marf in alot of areas concerning the characters depths. Most people here seems to hate the whole black vs white thing, but for me its not bad at all.
The fact that the Sith portrayed in the movies and in much of the novels are really shallow annoys me and that the Jedi are chosen Mormons from space. Also the pre-sequels are not that bad, but ill come back to that, here me out here and don't flame yet.

My ideal Star wars.
So we have already touched on the subject that the Sith are entirely evil bad guys, and that George Lucas could have done much better if he had just hired one of us right? Though the properties of the force, from my perspective shouldn't be removed. The fact that its corrupting is a great tool for a writer because it allows us to reason our characters 'darkness' with it. That people who have certain traits in the extreme as (for example) narcissism, anxieties, experienced abuse, or just plain psychopathy turns to be Sith, but it doesn't result in a autistic personality and completely makes them Dr.Doom (PG-13) supervillan. That each Sith is a different dark side of their own personality. How the dark side is portrayed in them is how they act. Their weakness becomes their strength if they only commit to it and that the whole journey from acolyte-hood to mastery is to find that weakness and hone it, or die trying in most cases. All this to prove a point that for example; "No I'm not weak, even though I was abused I will use my powers to show people how it gave me strength and how I can make people feel the same pain I've felt.". Or not depending on the character. But you get my drift. I'm not trying to say that the Sith should be a fuck-fest mental hospital it was but an example of a character. (And don't qoute me on that.) the idea is that the Dark side isn't just "The EVIL darkness" that we see portrayed in too many fictional stories these days, Its a feeling, a sensation of being alone with your troubles and finding out that (if you are force-sesnsitive) you can use those faults to make you powerful. Depending on the faults of course. Or you just want to see the world burn, that's the writers choice.
Also the Jedi is just the same thing, only that I think the Sith is more interesting because they're literally more human, feelings and what not. I think the Jedi should also be more inspired by the crusaders in their life style not only their way of fighting as they're portrayed in the movies. And that it would leave a lot more space for interesting characters within the Jedi order if it was portrayed as the crusaders in our past. Like warriors fighting for a belief that they self proclaim as the right one and the "light", maybe even doing religious cleansing as the crusaders did back in the day, killing innocents because they think is right. This may vary from master to master but even that would open for more politics within the order making the Jedi council an important thing.
Now, the pre-sequels as I mentioned, isnt that bad. Next to the score by John Williams it maybe is, but I mean who can topple that. What I mean is that the pre-sequels was what laid the foundation of what we see today in our forums most things like the senate and the different light saber designs and ships and a whole lot of stuff is originated in the pre-sequels. But don't get me wrong. The movies aren't amazing. Its just a really good source of props and references to give us a better idea of the universe. We can always put our fingers in our ears when they mention medi-chlorians or cover our eyes when jar jar hops on screen. But I beg that you don't look past the designs that refined the Star wars universe. (Tell me if you want me to rephrase myself. Might not get it through due to the fact I'm writing this on my phone.)
 
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