War on Tython: Locked Within OOC

[Xorism]

@Versok @Loco @Wit

Unless you guys think it should be longer, I'd write my next post as the encryption having been broken. I probably don't have to quote Loco tech functions but :P the computer spike write up states 2 or more rounds for hardened or military-grade encryption. We can make it longer if you insist but I also think we're not technically in pvp yet so we can probably be a bit more lenient with that.

With what I've posted, I would envision the spike to finish working by the start of my next post unless you want the Jedi team to skip forward to that part and react (just to save everyone having to post nothing for a whole round).

Also - the NPCs can be excluded from the pvp if you guys wish, I only included them for flavor as the temple write up has temple guards too.

 

[Wit]

@Versok @Loco @Wit

Unless you guys think it should be longer, I'd write my next post as the encryption having been broken. I probably don't have to quote Loco tech functions but :P the computer spike write up states 2 or more rounds for hardened or military-grade encryption. We can make it longer if you insist but I also think we're not technically in pvp yet so we can probably be a bit more lenient with that.

With what I've posted, I would envision the spike to finish working by the start of my next post unless you want the Jedi team to skip forward to that part and react (just to save everyone having to post nothing for a whole round).

Also - the NPCs can be excluded from the pvp if you guys wish, I only included them for flavor as the temple write up has temple guards too.

I thought all of that was flavor and you guys would simply charge in this round and the PvP would begin. I'll let Loco chime in as well, but at least that's how I envisioned it.

 

[Loco]

Yeah, that's fine with me as well.

 

[Xorism]

@Versok @Loco @Wit edits made then, best of luck!

 

[Loco]

@Versok @Loco @Wit edits made then, best of luck!

Just FYI @Xorism, you can only add new equipment in your first posts of a thread. I'll cut you guys a break on an NPC with a computer spike for the sake of not totally exhausting you just for you to open the vault door with the Force, but the convenient rebreathers and such should go- the Sith had no information on this place prior the fighting, so they would have no idea they needed to bring stuff like that.

Don't break the glass.

 

[Wit]

Also, another small thing @Xorism. There is no corner for you to round as you mention in your post. I think that was on my wording. The way Loco wrote the setting it's the door leading to a long corridor that opens into the area the Jedi are which is the vault proper. So the Jedi are waiting at the corners of the end of the corridor but you don't need to round any additional corners to approach them.

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S marks where the Sith start (behind the door), and L and F are where the two Jedi are. Sorry if I wasn't clearer, thought we were painting a clearer picture.

 

[Xorism]

Just FYI @Xorism, you can only add new equipment in your first posts of a thread. I'll cut you guys a break on an NPC with a computer spike for the sake of not totally exhausting you just for you to open the vault door with the Force, but the convenient rebreathers and such should go- the Sith had no information on this place prior the fighting, so they would have no idea they needed to bring stuff like that.

Don't break the glass.

In fairness i did alude to using the NPCs to open the door in the first post.

Also, another small thing @Xorism. There is no corner for you to round as you mention in your post. I think that was on my wording. The way Loco wrote the setting it's the door leading to a long corridor that opens into the area the Jedi are which is the vault proper. So the Jedi are waiting at the corners of the end of the corridor but you don't need to round any additional corners to approach them.

___S___
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....L ...F

S marks where the Sith start (behind the door), and L and F are where the two Jedi are. Sorry if I wasn't clearer, thought we were painting a clearer picture.

That is different indeed to what we had in mind, I'll look over it after work and make edits if applicable.

 

[Xorism]

@Versok @Wit @Loco

Made the edits as requested, hopefully, I have worded it correctly!

The main reason I opened the thread with the delay on opening the vault was that the site lore writes up specified that the vault itself required council level or higher to access so I wanted to leave it open for you to start at the front door or arriving afterward so to speak.

 

[Loco]

@Wit, stopping trying to draw dicks in the OOC.

@Versok @Wit @Loco

Made the edits as requested, hopefully, I have worded it correctly!

The main reason I opened the thread with the delay on opening the vault was that the site lore writes up specified that the vault itself required council level or higher to access so I wanted to leave it open for you to start at the front door or arriving afterward so to speak.

Looks good! Just one point of clarification before we post. It looks like you edited out the shots at Leto from your previous version, but they're still referenced in @Versok post. Am I misinterpreting something?

 

[Versok]

@Wit, stopping trying to draw dicks in the OOC.



Looks good! Just one point of clarification before we post. It looks like you edited out the shots at Leto from your previous version, but they're still referenced in @Versok post. Am I misinterpreting something?

No you aren't, he edited it after I posted, I've gotta edit mine too, will do later today, basically will write that the pull will be directed to any of you if you show your heads out of the corner

 

[Loco]

No you aren't, he edited it after I posted, I've gotta edit mine too, will do later today, basically will write that the pull will be directed to any of you if you show your heads out of the corner

Sounds good. Thanks!

 

[Versok]

Did the edits, post now a lot shorter since it just describes what Kano will do if he sees you

@Wit @Loco

 

[Xorism]

@Loco @Wit @Versok

Hi Loco, can you clarify your force attack just a little bit more just so we understand.

Do they start playing twister? can you give an indication of how the force attack is applying on our bodies and the time it takes for this to occur for the second part of your force attack i.e. the twisting per below?

Fennex tightly balled his free paw, hitting both warriors with a powerful blast of Force energy that would slam them together and twist them around in a mess of their own ignited lightsabers and put them both directly in the path of Leto's blaster fire.


Timeline wise this is what I'm thinking so far:

1. Door Opens
2. Sith enter, Leto is already peaking the corner and shoots at Xornoth immediately
3. Xornoth and Kano locate Leto and move to attack him (as Xornoth is already aiming down the hallway just not at Leto) while Fennex pops out from behind the corner and attacks both Sith with the force
4. Leto's shots arrive while Xornoth fires upon Leto, Kano pulls Leto with the force, Fennex pulls Xornoth and Kano together with a force attack (based on 30m/s speed Xornoth has 1 second to fire before Leto's first shot arrives so at best Xornoth gets 1 shot off but given that Fennex states his attack lands prior to Leto's, then Xornoth may not have had time to fire the way your attack is written.


Edit:

Can you clarify the dimensions of the corridor and the rest of the vault behind it.

 

[Loco]

Hi Loco, can you clarify your force attack just a little bit more just so we understand.

Do they start playing twister? can you give an indication of how the force attack is applying on our bodies and the time it takes for this to occur for the second part of your force attack i.e. the twisting per below?

Basically, it's just a Force push from opposite sides that would smash you face first into each other, with just a little bit of backspin on it to tangle or disorient you guys a little. The twist is pretty much simultaneous with the push. Given you're practically shoulder to shoulder, it would be almost instantaneous altogether.

Timeline wise this is what I'm thinking so far:

1. Door Opens
2. Sith enter, Leto is already peaking the corner and shoots at Xornoth immediately
3. Xornoth and Kano locate Leto and move to attack him (as Xornoth is already aiming down the hallway just not at Leto) while Fennex pops out from behind the corner and attacks both Sith with the force
4. Leto's shots arrive while Xornoth fires upon Leto, Kano pulls Leto with the force, Fennex pulls Xornoth and Kano together with a force attack (based on 30m/s speed Xornoth has 1 second to fire before Leto's first shot arrives so at best Xornoth gets 1 shot off but given that Fennex states his attack lands prior to Leto's, then Xornoth may not have had time to fire the way your attack is written.

This is a very tight timeline overall, but yes, that is how I imagined and was endeavoring to word things. Given the speed of projectiles, Fens attack would probably be in full swing as Leto's first shot or two reach their destination, but the important part to me was "just as the two Sith began to initiate their hasty reactionary attacks", ie; as Xornoth is pulling the trigger.

Can you clarify the dimensions of the corridor and the rest of the vault behind it.

The corridor is probably a little over 2m wide, since Leto is "a half dozen feet to Fennex's left", and we're both peeking around corners into it- then 30m long, obviously. As far as the chamber beyond goes, we haven't really established, but given its description as the lowest point of the central spire, I'm imaging probably a hexagonal or round chamber, between 20-30m across. I wrote in a small chamber beyond- probably some sort of back door or access hatch, to stash our NPC Temple guard in to make them irrelevant to the fighting, like your squad.

 

[Loco]

Forgot the tags @Xorism

@Versok @Wit

 

[Loco]

Wit and I had a couple of concerns and/or questions on this last round of posts.


For Kano, this might just be me mis-reading your description of the timing @Versok, but Fennex's attack was timed to go off just after Kano started his pull, so that would be interrupted rather than him just refocusing the preparation on a different attack, if that makes sense. Other than that you're fine and the defense makes sense, but you'd have to put considerable effort into counter push, given the level difference. I just want to make sure we're on the same page with what was happening.

There's some different problems with your post @Xorism. I think you're doing way too much at the same time according to the timeline we previously agreed on. Xornath is blocking six blaster bolts (give or take), returning accurate fire, "resisting" the Force Push, giving Kano an assist to make up for the level difference and saber locking him for defense just in case, all at more or less the same time. Those last two I'm not even sure are possible, given the previous two efforts, because unlike Kano you don't have four arms. I don't believe you can just "resist" a Force Push without actively pushing back against it like we see in EpIII, and unlike Kano Xornath doesn't have four arms.

 

[Xorism]

Wit and I had a couple of concerns and/or questions on this last round of posts.

There's some different problems with your post @Xorism. I think you're doing way too much at the same time according to the timeline we previously agreed on. Xornath is blocking six blaster bolts (give or take), returning accurate fire, "resisting" the Force Push, giving Kano an assist to make up for the level difference and saber locking him for defense just in case, all at more or less the same time. Those last two I'm not even sure are possible, given the previous two efforts, because unlike Kano you don't have four arms. I don't believe you can just "resist" a Force Push without actively pushing back against it like we see in EpIII, and unlike Kano Xornath doesn't have four arms.

Well, I'll remove the assisting Kano as I suppose it could be a bit much with everything else but the reference I'm using http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Telekinesis states under canon:

The ability was usually accompanied by motion of the eyes, hands or even the entire body, the latter being the most common way to use the power, which could also limit use of the ability, especially when the user's mind or senses were strained or overwhelmed.

I have edited to specify, let me know if I'm understanding it wrong.

As for the blaster shots, Leto specified that he would be running immediately and stopping all actions if Xornoth opened fire which he did, however, he also fired at least twice due to his rapid fire (which I locked in with my post). Leto has also removed his lightsaber from the equation by specifying that he would hold it back to anchor himself into the wall if he was affected by a force pull which by your own post above is not interrupted before it started and thus pulls Leto forward albeit not very far.

Therefore Leto would either be committing to firing the six shots where Xornoth would need to deflect in which case Leto would also be likely taking at least two shots before he could move his lightsaber to deflect the rest. Which if the rounds hit, would leave him one hit from death if they struck the same place. Or Leto abandons firing upon Xornoth and ducks back into cover upon seeing the Sith's blaster coming his way (which was already aiming down the corridor, (it's not like he had to move it very far) in which point he has to outrun two blaster shots coming his way.

@Loco @Wit @Versok

 

[Wit]

Xornoth unclipped the blaster pistol from his hip taking it into his left hand while holding the lightsaber in the right. When the door was breached wide enough for the pair to enter, Xornoth entered ready to fire.

Opening the door into the main corridor revealed the 30-meter distance that had to be closed before their melee could begin. While moving forward on the left-hand side of the corridor (Sith perspective) Xornoth would use his lightsaber to intercept any returned fire.

As soon as a figure appeared in the opening doorway, he fired off six shots at their torso

Given the defensive position of Xornoth's lightsaber, he would easily deflect the first shot that Leto fired his way, likely returning it toward its origin and either striking Leto's torso or the weapon itself.

@Xorism, from the above you state that Xornoth was able to defend Leto's initial shots as well because his lightsaber was in a defensive position. But in your earlier posts you don't specify this defensive position. I have quoted your first PvP post, your blade is just held in his right hand as he's entering and only when he's inside the corridor and begins walking towards the Jedi do you even mention anything about defending against blaster fire. And as you can see in my post I fire as soon as you appear in the doorway, so you're getting fired on before you begin any sort of defensive stance and you're blade isn't really in any defensive position. So I think at least some of the shots would hit you, and that might change how you react from that point onwards.

As for you locking in the two rapidfire shots, I remember you having something like that in your original post but you edited it out. Right now you state "Should either or both Jedi expose themselves more than just showing a head or be pulled from their hiding space, Xornoth would open fire three times with his blaster pistol aiming for their torso.". Now chronologically, going by your post, you only start firing after you've begun walking down the corridor, by which time a bunch of Leto's shots would already have reached you, so you would still have to deal with a bunch of Leto's blaster shots before you force him to retread. Yes, my defense to you firing at him is ducking back, but as per the timing of the posts a good chunk of Leto's shots, or even all depending on how fast the carbines fire, would reach you before you begin firing at him.

Also, as per your current edits are you firing on Leto before he fires at you? I think the timing would be the other way around, Leto firing at you guys is the first action that happens in the PvP as he has the advantage of seeing and firing you guys before you guys can properly enter and locate the Jedi and then fire.

I'll let Loco comment on the TK, he's more familiar with the Force/PvP rules.

 

[Wit]

Forgot to tag @Loco @Versok

 

[Loco]

I brought up resisting the Force Push because afaik, the best example we have of two equivalent level Force Users resisting a Force push with a Force Push is this:

Which doesn't look like it leaves much room for a whole lot else.


On that note, I'm gonna go ahead and report this for a ruling since we've both stated our case. I know we're on wildly different time zones, so communication is hard to make in a timely fashion, and Wit and I's deadline is getting too close for comfort.

@Xorism @Versok @Wit