ATTN: Alliance/NJO merging into one faction

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Brandon Rhea

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After much consideration, consultation with the Jedi faction, and feedback from a number of members, we are announcing that the Galactic Alliance faction will be merged into the New Jedi Order faction. This is only out of universe, not in universe.

This will probably elicit some questions from people, so let me first give you some background.

Background
During the first timeline, which was RPd in 2005, there was no Republic faction. The Old Republic existed in-universe, but there was no RP faction for it. Instead, the “good guy” faction was the Jedi Order, and Jedi Generals led and controlled the Republic military forces. Essentially, the faction was the Jedi Order with a military. Jetzt, the founder of this site, was Supreme Chancellor at one point, but he didn’t lead a faction, and there was no Senate until the second timeline.

We created the Republic faction 1/4 or 1/2 of the way through the second timeline because people asked for it. Even then, though, it was underused and no one was really interested in it, because it didn’t have much potential considering it was the faction of good guy soldiers. Through the third and fourth timeline, the Republic still never became that active or interesting to people, and now the same thing is happening with the Alliance.

So we have decided to go back to the successful way we did things in the first timeline and merge the Alliance and the New Jedi Order.

The Merge
I don’t want to bog you down with too many detailed details, since I already gave a lot of background info, so I’ll try to keep this brief:

Over the weekend, we’ll merge the relevant Alliance board sections into the Jedi board.

If you have an Alliance military character, you get to keep that character. You will serve under Jedi military commanders and be part of joint Jedi-Alliance missions.

The military ranks for Jedi characters are Padawan = Lieutenant, Knight = Commander, and Master and above = General. To keep things easier for now, all military ranks for characters created starting now will only have those three ranks. If your current character is not one of those ranks, you can keep that rank or we can shift you to the nearest applicable rank. Within those ranks, you can specialize in whatever way you want: battlefield soldier, pilot, etc.

For now, there won’t be a person who RPs an Alliance Chief of State. That character will exist IC, but, unless plans change soon or sometime further in the future, it won’t be RPd. Denzein is the faction leader of this grand unified faction, since the faction is the New Jedi Order still.

You can RP a Senator, but as of right now there isn’t going to be a Congress board with Congress sessions. It’s been unpopular and underused, and it doesn’t have much potential as an influential part of the faction.

The faction will act, OOCly, much as the Empire does in the sense that it’s one grand, unified faction with only one chain of command, although ICly it’s still 2 factions (unlike the Empire).

More specifics will still be ironed out over the next few days.

Final Thoughts
Back in the first time, this joint-faction concept allowed the Jedi faction, Jedi and military in all, to be HUGE. It kept the good guy on task, and it gives the Jedi the weight and influence they deserve in the RP when it’s made clear they’re running the show for the Alliance. It will allow for the focus of the main war between the good guys and the bad guys to be on the Jedi and the Sith, unlike the fourth timeline where it was Republic vs. Hutts and the Jedi and Bogan were relegated to second string.

This can give more faction pride on the good guy side as well, as well as make the good guy side feel that they really have the muscle that the bad guy side has. In the first timeline, the Jedi/Republic merged faction had more directly shared goals and there was more of an effort and thought put behind things for the whole of the good side, as there was a stronger unified OOC presence.

I’m very much looking forward to this, as is the rest of the staff, and the feedback we’ve received when floating this idea to other people has been very positive so far.

If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, by all means please post them here. There’s still plenty of time before the boards are merged and what not.

Thanks!
 

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Awesome. I'm looking forward to the merge, and hoping it'll give the good guys the boost they need right now.
 

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Woohooo finally your promise of exciting news and I need a cigarette
 

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But Brandon you gave a happy ending...

Either way this is a good thing I am hoping will pick up the good guys.
 

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Rawr, now I have to go work on that jedi padawan I've been putting off. Harumph.

I also kind of like that it gives a frame of reference for padawan skills in comparison to military ranks. I think that'll help with the whole "Padawans can't do much of anything" problem some people have.
 

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I also kind of like that it gives a frame of reference for padawan skills in comparison to military ranks. I think that'll help with the whole "Padawans can't do much of anything" problem some people have.

Agreed.
 

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Feedback: I think if this happens the NJO should be inside the GA like the Sith are inside the Empire.

Question: So no more trooper characters? How will the GA be run within the NJO?
 

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Feedback: I think if this happens the NJO should be inside the GA like the Sith are inside the Empire.

We deliberately chose not to incorporate them ICly because there's not really any IC precedent or OOC need to do that. The Sith are inside the Empire because they took it over.

Question: So no more trooper characters?

Not sure what you mean here.

How will the GA be run within the NJO?

Since it's purely OOC, the Jedi Council will manage it as another aspect of the NJO faction, just as it would any other aspect. We have a Battle Master and a Prime Envoy whose jobs are military and politics/diplomacy, respectively, so they'll be a major presence in working with the Alliance aspects of the faction. More detailed information is forthcoming.
 
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Back then in fact the " good guys" became TOO powerful. we had a situation that nearly mirrored the last timeline but in reverse where the Sith were so overwhelmed with inner turmoil ( oocly unable to settle on a anything forcing IC civil wars, and I mean many many of them ) and the Jedi/Republic had to focus only on indi factions ( the demitri) once they were wiped out the jedi/republic had nothing to do which lead to a migration of a few people to force some life into the Sith which triggered a massive united empire...

And if it is now as it was then there is nothing to stop anyone from making a republic officer, it simple means that OOCLY the factions are united as ONE faction, eliminating much of the side hopping, double play, trust issues that have plagued the " good guys" for several timelines now.
 

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So there is no one interested in keeping the faction individual?
 

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I'm headed to bed now, so if anyone has any questions then I'll get to them in the morning/early afternoon, unless other admins do first.

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So there is no one interested in keeping the faction individual and alive?

There's simply not been interest this timeline, nor has there been interest in the Republic in previous factions. It just hasn't worked, and it's much more effective to keep the Jedi and Alliance as one faction.
 

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This is nonsense, joining the Sith.





Jk, Jk


In all seriousness, looking forward to it. :]
 

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Okay...I don't see how this will change the lack of interest you mentioned but alright then. Hopefully Den doesn't become overwhelmed, good luck to ya man.
 

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I think this is a pretty good move considering the level of activity in the Galactic Alliance currently. I definitely throw down my support.

Why is the Galactic Alliance merging into the Jedi Order instead of the other way around, though? I understand the GA is lacking in leadership OOC, but I was just curious to know the details behind that decision. It would seem more appropriate the other way around, especially considering the Empire is operated in much the same manner.
 
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This is a great move, and frankly long overdue.

As for why the Jedi are becoming the stanard bearers for the good guys instead of the Alliance, theres several reasons. Firstly, the Jedi have the numbers and the interest. Secondly, theyre instantly recognizable. Furthermore if the Galactic Alliance was in charge we'd still rely on several GA characters in leadership roles, which could be confusing and limiting for the people forced to play them.

This timeline is very much driven by the ancient conflict between the Jedi and the Sith, and realistically the Empire and the Alliance are NPC factions with a few PC characters for flavour. We need to focus and emphasize the focus of the main conflict on the main players in the conflict, and that means the Jedi need a stronger focus on their importance.
 

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So does this mean PCs that were in the GA will now become PCs in the NJO?
 

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So does this mean PCs that were in the GA will now become PCs in the NJO?

I'm assuming so - most likely there'll be some sort of GA sub-faction. The admins aren't saying that GA-specific characters like troopers can't be played, they're just restructuring the good guy faction's hierarchy and focus.
 
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