Bomb Iran?

[Scarface]

"Three Day Blitz" in Iran

THE Pentagon has drawn up plans for massive airstrikes against 1,200 targets in Iran, designed to annihilate the Iranians’ military capability in three days, according to a national security expert.[/b]

President George Bush intensified the rhetoric against Iran last week, accusing Tehran of putting the Middle East “under the shadow of a nuclear holocaust”. He warned that the US and its allies would confront Iran “before it is too late”.[/b]

If this happens I dread the day. And so I await the refute from the White House, which hasn't happened yet, which is odd because this story has been out for the better part of the day.

 

[Ser Gregor]

God, please no.

 

[Cailst]

I hope we don't have to do it but if it is necessary, I hope we would use it rather than our soldiers for defeating Iran.

Also, if we were to do that to Iran, it wouldn't be hard for some group inside Iran to revolt and take over Iran hopefully giving Iraq one more friendly neighbor.

 

[Eddy]

I sense World War III.

 

[Cailst]

I doubt it, Iran would hopefully be done in three days without any American troops even wandering into Iran

That is as long as Iran's allies don't help it. Then we might have WW3.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

The only way that it would become World War III would be if either China or Russia (or, God forbid, both) joined with Iran to protect their own interests.

 

[Ser Gregor]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Brandon Rhea @ Sep 2 2007, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

The only way that it would become World War III would be if either China or Russia (or, God forbid, both) joined with Iran to protect their own interests.[/b]

That would be realy bad.

 

[Eddy]

A preemptive attack on Iran, seemingly crippling their entire military in three days will have more than just their allies outraged. Imagine the starting assault on Iraq, times ten.

 

[Cailst]

Though if we and China were to fight, we might be able to get India to join our side as they have fought before and there is some Sino-Indian emnity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Indian_War

However, they are an ally of Russia and they probably wouldn't help if we fought Russia

 

[Scarface]

Russia is already on the brinks of becoming a "non-ally" (if you want to call them that), and from what I've seen they don't exactly not like Iran.

I think WWIII is a bit of a stretch but I do see it (if it happened) as quite a bloody conflict. Besides if Bush's plan to take out the entire Iranian military is anything like his other "plans" for Iraq, we're fucked to put it bluntly.

 

[Cailst]

Though with the three day plan, not a single american would die unless it were by Iranian aircraft, SAMs, or anti aircraft guns. Oherwise, they would be pretty much screwed. Also, it stated in the article that Israel would do it if we don't so we might even have help if we do do it

 

[Brandon Rhea]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scarface @ Sep 2 2007, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I think WWIII is a bit of a stretch but I do see it (if it happened) as quite a bloody conflict. Besides if Bush's plan to take out the entire Iranian military is anything like his other "plans" for Iraq, we're fucked to put it bluntly.[/b]

The major blunder in the planning for Iraq, other than the "they'll love us" and "we don't need an exit strategy" ideas was the idea that we could rebuild a government democratically in such a volatile region. If we were to strike Iran, what we would have to do is take out the Ayatollah and Mohammed Ahmadinejad, as well as their flunkies, and also cripple the infrastructure of the Revolutionary Guard and any enemy segments of the government, which is pretty much all of it. We then allow Iran, not us, to rebuild their own country.

 

[Eddy]

Israel and Iran, and a lot of other countries out there have been threatening each other with things like that since the dawn of time, basically. World War III is definitely possible, but I just hope it won't come to that. I hope I'm wrong if Bush goes through with this, especially since he's not even done with the war in Iraq just yet.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Noncommunist @ Sep 2 2007, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Though with the three day plan, not a single american would die unless it were by Iranian aircraft, SAMs, or anti aircraft guns. Oherwise, they would be pretty much screwed. Also, it stated in the article that Israel would do it if we don't so we might even have help if we do do it[/b]

Israel is, for the lack of a better term, insane sometimes. If Iran was to strike back at them, they would probably threaten and, possibly, use a nuclear strike against Iran's nuclear facilities. That would be devastating, to say the least.

 

[OneoftheLost]

I hate to say it, but this isnt really news, they have been talking about this for the better part of two years. It just hasn't been official. Back when I was in basic they where talking about priority targets in Iran.... (2006 June.) I highly doubt it will go through as the opposition is enormous, its kind of like the draft. I doubt it will happen. Oh, and yes Isreal is insane.. just look at the Krav Maga... those are some insane mofos. Also I wasn't aware Russia would be a big threat, China, yes. Russia? They have too many economic problems back home. ( or at least when my mother went a couple years ago.) We have a bigger enemy in India and Pakistan (since both of them are packing.)

 

[Johnnysaurus Rex]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Neris @ Sep 2 2007, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I hope I'm wrong if Bush goes through with this, especially since he's not even done with the war in Iraq just yet.[/b]

He probably figures that since his presidency is coming to a close that he has a limited time to 'make a difference' and get done what he wants to do.

 

[Eddy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(OneoftheLost @ Sep 2 2007, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

I hate to say it, but this isnt really news, they have been talking about this for the better part of two years. It just hasn't been official. Back when I was in basic they where talking about priority targets in Iran.... (2006 June.) I highly doubt it will go through as the opposition is enormous, its kind of like the draft. I doubt it will happen. Oh, and yes Isreal is insane.. just look at the Krav Maga... those are some insane mofos. Also I wasn't aware Russia would be a big threat, China, yes. Russia? They have too many economic problems back home. ( or at least when my mother went a couple years ago.) We have a bigger enemy in India and Pakistan (since both of them are packing.)[/b]

Well, obviously this plan has been in the works longer than we, the public really know. Isn't the point of public announcements to tell the people stuff the government already knows about for the better half of at least a year? :p
Iraq was being planned before Bush even got into the office.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(OneoftheLost @ Sep 2 2007, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Also I wasn't aware Russia would be a big threat, China, yes. Russia? They have too many economic problems back home. ( or at least when my mother went a couple years ago.) We have a bigger enemy in India and Pakistan (since both of them are packing.)[/b]

Russia is solving economic problems on a daily basis. Even so, nothing helps an economy like a full-scale war. As far as them being a big threat, Putin, Bush and Cheney have reverted to Cold War mentalities. Just listen to the way they speak to each other.

 

[OneoftheLost]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Brandon Rhea @ Sep 2 2007, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Russia is solving economic problems on a daily basis. Even so, nothing helps an economy like a full-scale war. As far as them being a big threat, Putin, Bush and Cheney have reverted to Cold War mentalities. Just listen to the way they speak to each other.[/b]

Ok point taken. War is what brought us some serious economic goodness after ww2. As for the Cold war mentalities... I didn't even notice, I dunno, Ill have to look more closely...

 

[Scarface]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Brandon Rhea @ Sep 2 2007, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

The major blunder in the planning for Iraq, other than the "they'll love us" and "we don't need an exit strategy" ideas was the idea that we could rebuild a government democratically in such a volatile region. If we were to strike Iran, what we would have to do is take out the Ayatollah and Mohammed Ahmadinejad, as well as their flunkies, and also cripple the infrastructure of the Revolutionary Guard and any enemy segments of the government, which is pretty much all of it. We then allow Iran, not us, to rebuild their own country.[/b]

We let the Iraqi people vote in their leaders, we chose a democracy for them. Would you choose a democracy for Iran, or would you let their weak government (due to the fact that we descemated it) take over and create essentially another dictatorship? It's happened before to other countries, it's bound to happen again. It's a double edged sword really.

It isn't our job to go over in other countries and tell them "We do it this way, so should you", it also isn't our job to destroy the government of a country and say "Now that we've bombed your country into submission, you take over now".

At this point in time, it isn't smart to cripple their government and create war with them, but it also isn't smart to sit back and wait for them to get destroyed by Israel, or let them create weapons to destroy us or Israel.

Again, double edged sword. We're bound to get cut either way.