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Gian Greydragon

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I noted the grenade, but no explosion, that hadn't taken place yet, but I'll edit for the truck and stuff. Thank you for clarifying.
 

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Just to make it clear, the ten men aren't there yet but they will be in my next post. This was the last post before backup arrives.
 

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@Deviant @vamp

Okay, so we've discussed and we have several issues with your defenses. We'll start with the truck and Narsi' fire upon it first.

"Tres didn't hold back for a moment, opening fire with its arm cannon even as the vehicle started to slow and stop. It wouldn't even get a chance to reach full stop before a flurry of five shots ripped through its front. "

That is an excerpt from Narsi' attack on the truck. The shots are occurring as the truck is slowing down. Vamp wrote that he slammed the brakes and turned it towards a line of trees. Therefore the trees exist on the side, nothing was mentioned that trees provided any cover to the speeder while it was on its general pathway. You had no problem with Narsi' post in where he wrote he was going to target and shoot you, hence you cant say that the Trees are now providing cover. You are saying that you can squeeze a large speeder into the line of trees but a Droid using 4X Zoom can't fit his blaster bolts into there? Also as you are slowing down you have less maneuverability to swerve. You can't swerve around something without the speed to do so. The Goliath arm cannon fires at 2 shots per second and given the distance, all five shots would occur within 2.5 - 3 seconds.

Now for the jetpack Defense;

You have numerous shots being fired from repeater weapons, the automatic rate is 5 shots per second and while it is fired in burst mode, the distance would have the flurry arriving shortly after a second. You cannot have that great of maneuverability while in the air to dodge so many bolts fired at you from different trajectories, especially without any weapons to deflect or cover to use for protection.

"At forty meters, she still had over a second to avoid them. While over a dozen bolts was a lot, her jetpack could cover seven meters a second at half her maximum acceleration. At full? Twofold. Even if they followed her speedy trajectory, she had already been prepared to move, and move she did.

Rather than take a vertical rise, she tilted to the side and simply continued her rise at an angle, shifting or pausing whenever needed. Every shot that was coming to her would miss."


Your post, seems too much. You are shifting and pausing in mid-air yet retaining the acceleration and speed to dodge blaster bolts.

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@Faded Truth

The same post you quoted affirmed that the speeder would swerve should interrupting fire arrive. You fired, we swerved. It's not really that deep. We imagined the bundle of trees not to be far, and the speeder neither so slow. We likewise imagined the speeder hitting the breaks and making a sharp turn forces it to drift to the needed direction, not stop and awkwardly reposition itself or slow down. It's a hovering vehicle. Plus, we're more than forty meters away. While bolts will take only a second to hit, I seriously doubt the droid can be so accurate, and so precise, as to conveniently hit the speeder's protected fuel line and cause an explosion.

As for jetpack defense, again, I'm forty meters away, and at the rate of bolts travel, I have more than a second to avoid each. Regardless of burst. Your post does not indicate you would follow the trajectory of her movement, only at a vertical pattern, which I did not take. @Gian Greydragon was more careful with this, but his character expected the same vertical movement.

Nevertheless, I am maneuverable. My post confirms that even at half my acceleration, I can cover seven meters in a second. At a quarter? Still four. All I need to do is move less than one meter to avoid each bolt(s), arriving by each second. This isn't just split second dodging. I have the distance and the speed to do this. What's rather unreasonable is how your characters might be so good as to precisely hit an extremely fast moving target at such an extreme distance while considering Imperial forces swarming behind you.

As for what you quoted, "shifting or pausing whenever needed," I never clearly said she did. Just that she would if necessary. That was inserted only to affirm that Persephone would not be moving in a single direction for predictable targeting. But no worries, I'll edit to better reflect that. Not that it changes my stance or opinion on the matters above.

If you still have doubts about my maneuverability, I have no hard feelings about reporting. Not being stubborn, but you've presented nothing against the case of my speed or distance. Just that "there are a lot of bolts," which I acknowledged.


tl;dr Jetpacks travel 50kph at maximum acceleration, or 14 meters a second. I'm at a distance of 40 meters, bolts travel at 35 meters a second. I have a whole second to dodge each shot, almost all of which did not apply for her speed or trajectory. Throw as much bolts as you want, but my maneuverability would be too fast or unpredictable to find real purchase.
 

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I actually noted that if you didn't continue upward, he would hold o Percys center of mass, so Niish anticipating vertical movement is more or less a moot point, since hes still watching her movements. You also don't have a full second to deal with each bolt, you have one second to deal with five, and then the rest come into play, given the rate of fire of repeaters.
 

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I actually noted that if you didn't continue upward, he would hold o Percys center of mass, so Niish anticipating vertical movement is more or less a moot point, since hes still watching her movements. You also don't have a full second to deal with each bolt, you have one second to deal with five, and then the rest come into play, given the rate of fire of repeaters.

Even if he was anticipating the movement, how would he hit her? Percy's literally moving at 50 kph
 

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Well I fired nine bolts that round. Unless it was clearly stated, she wasn't moving at 50kph so chances are at least one made contact.
 

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@Gian Greydragon

The case remains unchanged. I already acknowledged the many bolts you are firing, but you still have yet to bring up anything against my speed or maneuverability.

Also, don't exploit my vagueness. I clearly mentioned that she was going fast enough to maneuver around the bolts. I even said that at half acceleration, she could still avoid virtually everything. It takes less than a meter to dodge a bolt. If I can travel at seven per second, which is half the usual speed, I'm solid. But if you seriously want to push for detail, I can happily oblige. Still, it changes nothing.

To clarify about the burst rate of fire before it's brought up, that only improves my case, because all successive bolts would be reaching the same general area, or the empty space where Persephone once was. If you're moving your rifle mid-burst, then you're not doing precision aiming. You're just spraying slow shots against an extremely fast moving target at an extended distance.

I won't repeat the points I've already said above, though. I've made myself clear.
 

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Just to clarify, for this thread Arturo is still Level One, and a Marauder. To avoid any confusion later
 

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@Kraken

One small thing that we request an edit on. You cannot actually time your shots to Gian's attack on Deviant; Deviant's initial shots came in the round prior and Gian's attack was an interrupt. So based on time shared, your actions would have to occur after she is interrupted.

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Guard towers are usually taller than the causeways they are connected to, so I assume the ones on the map are too? It looks a little like this, right? If I'm wrong let me know and I can do some edits.

Anyway, I named the two towers on the map to make things easier on me. "Alpha" and "Beta" tower. I've marked them on the map for you guys. I've also marked where i placed the guards and the acolytes. I haven't moved any of your guys' dots though, because I'm lazy.

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The dots on the grass are just to show which color is for the acolytes and which color is for the guards. They aren't actually on the grass.

Each guard is carrying a Gladius Blaster Rifle and a Blastech DH-7 Pistol. They're wearing Sith Trooper Armor.

Both acolytes have a lightsaber and a R5 Blaster Pistol. They're wearing Sith Marauder Armor.
 

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@Dread

So just one thing, in my post where I attacked Tom, I mentioned that Luka ran down the course of the causeway. So that dot reflects the initial starting position based on my OP however Luka is considerably closer to the Alpha tower than that dot reflects.
 

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@Dread

So just one thing, in my post where I attacked Tom, I mentioned that Luka ran down the course of the causeway. So that dot reflects the initial starting position based on my OP however Luka is considerably closer to the Alpha tower than that dot reflects.

yeah thats where I assumed you were in my post. I just didn't edit your dot on the map because im not the original creator of it and im lazy
 

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Hey man, correct me if I misread something, but in your post it looks like you're trying to jump to the top of the tower. I'm having a hard time believing that's a feat easily pulled off with jump boots. They only allow for long jumps over ten meters in length, I imagine its the same amount for vertical leaps, and a tower situated atop a prison gate is much taller than that, if you ask me.
 

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@vamp

Hey man, correct me if I misread something, but in your post it looks like you're trying to jump to the top of the tower. I'm having a hard time believing that's a feat easily pulled off with jump boots. They only allow for long jumps over ten meters in length, I imagine its the same amount for vertical leaps, and a tower situated atop a prison gate is much taller than that, if you ask me.

The walls of the prison I used in the OP look to be about 7 meters tall at most, and I don't think the tower would extend much higher than 3 meters or so, especially with how cramped they tend to be
 
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