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[Dread]

@Faded Truth

Grips have never taken time to apply. They apply and while they're applied you can try to resist them. But Luka is level 1 has two level 1 grips on the same area of his body, he wouldn't be able to resist both of them. Can you come up with another defense?

 

[Faded]

@Faded Truth

Grips have never taken time to apply. They apply and while they're applied you can try to resist them. But Luka is level 1 has two level 1 grips on the same area of his body, he wouldn't be able to resist both of them. Can you come up with another defense?

Sure

 

[Faded]

@Dread @vamp

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[vamp]

@Dread @vamp

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it seems okay(?)ish. Thing is, the riot grenade comes with the rest of the Acolyte's attacks, which places it after Luka's grenade throw

 

[Faded]

it seems okay(?)ish. Thing is, the riot grenade comes with the rest of the Acolyte's attacks, which places it after Luka's grenade throw

This is what you wrote:

The Marauder got down to one knee as he watched the two Acolytes strike out, then took a riot grenade off his belt and chucked it into the crowd, where it would damage the Imperials, both Old and Republica.

Unfortunately, Vamp, your writing does not reflect that the grenade is timed to occur with the Acolytes' attacks. Another thing, Drace is a NFS, he has no way to visualize a force grip or see when it occurs; hence if you were attempting to time anything it would have to occur with the acolytes' shots which due to my force blast were interrupted.

 

[vamp]

This is what you wrote:

The Marauder got down to one knee as he watched the two Acolytes strike out, then took a riot grenade off his belt and chucked it into the crowd, where it would damage the Imperials, both Old and Republica.

Unfortunately, Vamp, your writing does not reflect that the grenade is timed to occur with the Acolytes' attacks. Another thing, Drace is a NFS, he has no way to visualize a force grip or see when it occurs; hence if you were attempting to time anything it would have to occur with the acolytes' shots which due to my force blast were interrupted.

Fair enough

 

[Dread]

@Faded Truth All the shots are happening around the same time. That means that even if the acolytes shots are knocked off course or interrupted after their grip lands, the guards at the alpha towers door, the guard near beta tower and the guard on top of beta tower shots are still on course approximately around the same time. Mind addressing all of those shots or taking appropriate damage?

 

[Faded]

@Faded Truth All the shots are happening around the same time. That means that even if the acolytes shots are knocked off course or interrupted after their grip lands, the guards at the alpha towers door, the guard near beta tower and the guard on top of beta tower shots are still on course approximately around the same time. Mind addressing all of those shots or taking appropriate damage?

Dread, this is an excerpt from your first paragraph:

Almost simultaneously, the two said, "The dumb one" and reached out with the force, wrapping it around the mans upper body area—around his shoulder and arms—to pin him. They aimed to combine their powers so the man couldn't resist them. It was something they did often, as close friends. At the same time, they aimed their R5 Blaster Pistol's and fired two shots each at the pureblood Sith. Both their shots sped towards the mans head because they were above him.

The bold wording indicates a timing effect of your initial attack, hence that is why I defended as such. However, nothing is mentioned in the other follow up attacks from the other guards that they were timed in accordance with the acolytes' attacks. Just because you are writing them all in one round does not imply they all occur simultaneously.

I'm sorry Dread, I agreed with you on the Force Grip because you were right. I do however stand on the remainder of my defense as written.

 

[Dread]

Dread, this is an excerpt from your first paragraph:

Almost simultaneously, the two said, "The dumb one" and reached out with the force, wrapping it around the mans upper body area—around his shoulder and arms—to pin him. They aimed to combine their powers so the man couldn't resist them. It was something they did often, as close friends. At the same time, they aimed their R5 Blaster Pistol's and fired two shots each at the pureblood Sith. Both their shots sped towards the mans head because they were above him.

The bold wording indicates a timing effect of your initial attack, hence that is why I defended as such. However, nothing is mentioned in the other follow up attacks from the other guards that they were timed in accordance with the acolytes' attacks. Just because you are writing them all in one round does not imply they all occur simultaneously.

I'm sorry Dread, I agreed with you on the Force Grip because you were right. I do however stand on the remainder of my defense as written.

I never mentioned that that was the very first attack, or any of the attacks were first. It was only the first I wrote. I did mention the timing of guard fours shot though, which was sightly after guard one. And guard four and five got on the tower at the same time. And remember that I wrote they all got into position while the rest of you were fighting, moving around, etc.

 

[Faded]

I never mentioned that that was the very first attack, or any of the attacks were first. It was only the first I wrote. I did mention the timing of guard fours shot though, which was sightly after guard one. And guard four and five got on the tower at the same time.

Yes, I meant your initial attack as the one you wrote. However, this is what you wrote:

Guard one followed the acolytes to the top of alpha tower, though he didn't leave the doorways cover completely. Instead, he leaned out enough so that he could see and fire at the flying mando, but also duck back through the doorway, into the tower, if need be. And that's exactly what he did; he fired once at the flying mando (@Deviant) with his Gladius Blaster Rifle. The shot was aimed at her chest but it would hit at an odd angle.

Guard four also aimed and shot at the flying mando (@Deviant), though slightly after guard one did. The shot was aimed at the mando womans lower body, her hip. Guard four saw the pureblood sith (@Faded Truth) on the causeway and decided to shoot at him too, sending one shot from his Gladius Blaster Rifle towards the mans mid torso.

These are the statements you are referring to; there is no mention of temporal association regarding the attacks timed at me. Guard four shot slightly after guard one on Deviant? That leaves room for defense.

Once again, just because the attacks are written in one round, they do not occur simultaneously. If you wanted the other guards to attack at precisely the same moment in time as the Acolytes, then it should be written as such. I'm not seeing any evidence of that.

 

[Dread]

VIA DM Faded and I agreed to report this for a ruling, so the threads on hold. @Kraken @Gian Greydragon @vamp

 

[Kraken]

Aye aye @Dread Keep us posted!

 

[GABA]

Ruling Conclusion:
After reviewing the post in question, the main issue came down to timing and the bottom line is there isn't enough time as you had assume there to be, Faded. In your previous post, you had Luka begun to prime his grenade; in this time, Dread's Acolytes target take advantage of the high ground and focus on Luka, holding him in place with the Force and firing at him at the same time. Since Luka is having to fight off two level 1 FS, though not impossible, it will be problematic given he is also being shot at and holding a grenade that he had pulled the pin. Thus, even if he manages to break free, he is still getting shot at, which even with armor and the amount of bolts, still has bleed through, and he is holding an active grenade that will more than likely explode even before he can safely eject it from his grasp and in conclusion this will be fatal for Luka.

You have 24 hours to make the appropriate edits to your post, once appropriate edits are made, then posting by other members may resume.

This ruling is final.

@Faded Truth @Dread

 

[GABA]

@GABA

Can you please elaborate further in regards to the ruling? The telekinetic blast isn't enough to disrupt a force grip? I feel that the grenade was not at the center of debate but rather the timing of the guards' attack in accordance with the acolytes.

I didn't say it was impossible to break the Force grip, but it would take Luka some effort in order to do so. In addition at the same time the grip is happening, he is also being shot at, which would incapacitate him, and then you have to take into account your surroundings and given that Luka was still holding the grenade while being gripped and being shot at, and that is just going to make for a bad day regardless of what Luka does to try to get out of the acolytes cross-hairs.

 

[Faded]

I didn't say it was impossible to break the Force grip, but it would take Luka some effort in order to do so. In addition at the same time the grip is happening, he is also being shot at, which would incapacitate him, and then you have to take into account your surroundings and given that Luka was still holding the grenade while being gripped and being shot at, and that is just going to make for a bad day regardless of what Luka does to try to get out of the acolytes cross-hairs.

Fair enough

 

[Faded]

@Dread

Edits made

 

[Dread]

You're up @Gian Greydragon

 

[Gian Greydragon]

@Darasuum

From what direction is Burkhart descending toward the jail? If Alpha tower is toward the South.

 

[Darasuum]

@Darasuum

From what direction is Burkhart descending toward the jail? If Alpha tower is toward the South.

Uuuuuh....up?

Idk actually. I just had him at such a high altitude I did not plan for a direction yet. He started a ways away that he has not chosen a direction approach from until my next post I think.

 

[Dread]

You guys can continue without me now. The remaining guards aren't going to engage your characters, and by the time more backup arrives I'm guessing you'll all be gone.