Downtown Ottawa on Lockdown as Shootings Occur at Parliament Hill

[Ser Gregor]

So, not something you hear often from Canada. Our capital is on partial lockdown as police search for at least four suspects involved in three separate and simultaneous shootings at Parliament Hill, the National War Memorial, and the Rideau Center (a major shopping center). At least one individual has been hit, a soldier who was at the War Memorial. No one has been taken in to custody yet and bridges to Quebec have been closed as well as all military bases in the area. This comes less than a week after a soldier was killed by a Da'esh supporter in Quebec.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ottawa-parliament-hill-shooting-live-updates-1.2808737

 

[Fang.]

UPDATE: the soldier who was shot has died from his injuries, and the gunman has been identified. The downtown Ottawa Safety peremiter has been lifted.

The effects of this are being felt across the country. One such thing that has happened is that the entire Royal Canadian Air Cadet program has been suspended until further notice in order to protect the cadets.

I as a canadian, Feel a bit scared. If this dosent prove the threat of ISIS I dont know what will

 

[BLADE]

I hear ISIS really hurts the first time. That's why you should save ISIS for marriage. Or practice with a cucumber. Or Syria.

 

[Sovereign]

Nothing to see here. Move along.

 

[TheSilentWind]

Okay. I am officialy scared as I live in Canada.

 

[Sovereign]

Okay. I am officialy scared as I live in Canada.

You're a joke.

 

[Vulpes]

Tad rude, there.

 

[TheSilentWind]

You're a joke.

Someone is in a bad mood.

 

[Sovereign]

Someone is in a bad mood.

You're a joke too.

 

[BLADE]

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[TheSilentWind]

You're a joke.

Any. I am not going to fight. You got your opinion, I have mine.

EDIT:Removed an meme meant to insult Soverign. Apologies.

 

[Vulpes]

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Can't be bothered to post serious commentary now.

 

[Fang.]

You're a joke.

Have an opinion all you want, but dont be a jerk.

For some of us who live in Canada this is scary, this kind of stuff just dosent happen here. Just cause public shootings arent a big deal or at all scary to you dosent mean that it isnt scary to the rest of us.

Seriously.

 

[Oncaro]

Have an opinion all you want, but dont be a jerk.

For some of us who live in Canada this is scary, this kind of stuff just dosent happen here. Just cause public shootings arent a big deal or at all scary to you dosent mean that it isnt scary to the rest of us.

Seriously.

I think he's just being a troll, man. I for one hope you guys'll be okay.

 

[Fang.]

perhaps, but thats not how its coming across.

And thank you.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Whether Sovereign is trolling or not, he's not wrong. One soldier was killed. Sad for his loved ones? Of course, but have some perspective.

Getting scared over this is the same kind of pants-shitting that happens in America because of terrorism. Take it from an American: the threat to you is negligible, you're not going to die or get hurt from terrorism, and getting unnecessarily concerned over this is a road you don't want to go down.

If a 9/11-sized terrorist event had happened every day in America since 9/11/2001, Americans would still only have a less-than-5% chance of dying in a terrorist attack. Meaning you have a 95% chance of never dying in a terrorist attack. And that's 9/11 we're talking about, whereas what happened today was a douchebag with a gun.

There are legitimate questions to ask over lone wolf terrorism, and how an armed gunman who had already shot someone was able to get into Parliament. But cause for you to be afraid? Hardly.

 

[Bee]

 

[Ser Gregor]

The only thing I'm afraid of is the possible negative impact this will have on the openness of our Parliament buildings. One of the best things about Parliament Hill is how open to the public the entire complex is.

 

[BLADE]

I won't wish anyone safety because danger tends to focus the mind and because YOU ARE NOT IN ANY REAL DANGER.

Good Lord, I live in a state with a very high rate of mass shootings (Colorado: also known for John Denver, white people dreadlocks, and pot) and should I be commended for my incredible bravery in simply going outside? Well yes, but that's relating to my raw sex appeal and its tendency to cause traffic accidents.

People shouldn't get a Roman triumph or get to skin-crawingly inject themselves into these stories. Just because you're Canadian does not mean you are at risk; most Americans --aside from a nauseatingly craven and cynical Hallmark mill of weaponized warmongering-- were not at all directly impacted by 9/11, which was butchery on a logarithmically higher scale than this.

Finally, perhaps its useful to consider the War on Terror and its antilogies. Thousands of Westerners dead, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, Yemenis, etc. butchered by: drones, released sectarian violence, "smart-bombs", "smart governance," etc. Trillions wasted to serve the narrow private interests of the ruling class. An increasingly militarized and fascistic atmosphere at home. And yet we are not measurably "safer" as infantilizing and vague a metric as that is. Does this reality not suggest that even after all of this effort, after all of this Procrustean bloodletting, this autocatalytic recrudescence of the most crass and vulgar militarism has yielded no actual results?

Terrorism has become, and in fact might always have been in Western political economy, a vague daemonology, not to be either fought, or contained, or even allowed to affect us. It simply is a reduction of the world into whack-a-Hitler. First it was Saddam, then Al-Qaeda, then Al-Nusra, then AQI, then ISIL, and now the Khorasan Group, and ISIL again. Oh, and let's not forget Assad and Iran, who are of course fighting against ISIL.

Maybe the War on Terror isn't being waged on an external enemy at all. Maybe it exists outside of any self-contained operational logic because it serves other interests. Maybe we are as much its targets as angry young men with delusions of glory and realities of grievance. I've read enough jejune terror on here and on other internet spaces to know that there's a good chunk of the so-called Free World that is willing to be the bleating --and of course suitably terrorized-- chorus for this opera.

It won't end well.

He who believes inanities, after all, will commission tragedies.

 

[Blaxican]

Isn't that basically what Brandon said, but a couple paragraphs longer?