Feminism and Gender Equality

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To sum the thread up, International Women's Day was almost a week ago and we are all still just a shitty to one another as before. We pick sides, make assumptions about the other, and are, in general, pretty nasty to one another.

The term feminism strikes the same chord in me as someone bringing up racism. As a white, lower-middle class male it all makes me uncomfortable as it challenges the idea of the good person I like to think I am. I will be honest and say that I struggled quite a bit with this over the last year. My knee jerk reaction is to become hyper defensive for the "team" nature decided to put me on. That is the easy thing to do, just convince myself that others are trying to attack me to the point where I can ignore the problem for a little bit long.

I then decided that a better way is to acknowledge that there is gender (Or racial or fill in the blank) inequality, and that I have helped propagate such an inequality through my words and actions, and then with that mindset, go out and try not be a shitty person. Does that automatically fix the problem? No, I still occasionally do things that are sexist, but I become more aware and better equipped to be just a little bit better.

Moral of the Story: People have been pretty terrible to each other throughout history (Especially women for the context of this thread). Acknowledge that you have done it as well. Try not to do it.
 

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To sum the thread up, International Women's Day was almost a week ago and we are all still just a shitty to one another as before. We pick sides, make assumptions about the other, and are, in general, pretty nasty to one another.

The term feminism strikes the same chord in me as someone bringing up racism. As a white, lower-middle class male it all makes me uncomfortable as it challenges the idea of the good person I like to think I am. I will be honest and say that I struggled quite a bit with this over the last year. My knee jerk reaction is to become hyper defensive for the "team" nature decided to put me on. That is the easy thing to do, just convince myself that others are trying to attack me to the point where I can ignore the problem for a little bit long.

I then decided that a better way is to acknowledge that there is gender (Or racial or fill in the blank) inequality, and that I have helped propagate such an inequality through my words and actions, and then with that mindset, go out and try not be a shitty person. Does that automatically fix the problem? No, I still occasionally do things that are sexist, but I become more aware and better equipped to be just a little bit better.

Moral of the Story: People have been pretty terrible to each other throughout history (Especially women for the context of this thread). Acknowledge that you have done it as well. Try not to do it.
This is a great post. This is the right perspective to come at things with - an acknowledgement that you don't have the same experiences as other people, so you shouldn't dismiss the experiences of other people or delegitimize those experiences.
 

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Mr Rhea time to lock the thread

That would be for the best. We all have different feelings and views about this. Whether we agree or not, everyone has different views. Its just turned into a cluster fuck of emotion, arguing s***posting. We all need to chill and of this thread remains unlocked, we need to stop arguing.

EDIT:Forgot to mention that there are some really good posts from people like @Raydo and @Nor'bal
 

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Welcome to SWRP.

That would be for the best. We all have different feelings and views about this. Whether we agree or not, everyone has different views. Its just turned into a cluster **** of emotion, arguing s***posting. We all need to chill and of this thread remains unlocked, we need to stop arguing.
 

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This has largely been a constructive thread. I see no reason to lock it just because emotions ran high for 3 posts.
 

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Woah there @Raydo

As an English, white, Christian, middle class male with wealthy parents - who also attended an all boys private school - I'll have you know I have a very well rounded outlook on life.

^hey guys, I just made a joke at my own expense. But seriously though, my family history (especially on dads side) is like a who's who of historical douchenozzle.
 

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Woah there @Raydo

As an English, white, Christian, middle class male with wealthy parents - who also attended an all boys private school - I'll have you know I have a very well rounded outlook on life.

^hey guys, I just made a joke at my own expense. But seriously though, my family history (especially on dads side) is like a who's who of historical douchenozzle.
Go away, Tory
 

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Woah there @Raydo

As an English, white, Christian, middle class male with wealthy parents - who also attended an all boys private school - I'll have you know I have a very well rounded outlook on life.

^hey guys, I just made a joke at my own expense. But seriously though, my family history (especially on dads side) is like a who's who of historical douchenozzle.

Douchenozzles? This explains so much.
 

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Woah there @Raydo

As an English, white, Christian, middle class male with wealthy parents - who also attended an all boys private school - I'll have you know I have a very well rounded outlook on life.

^hey guys, I just made a joke at my own expense. But seriously though, my family history (especially on dads side) is like a who's who of historical douchenozzle.

We should swap family tree's, I've got a whole slew of reactionary and conservative émigré ancestors.
 

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Everyone is different, so everyone should be treated the same.

That's basically the long and short.
Actually, I disagree, and let me quote something I first heard from a comedy radio show host.

"If you want to treat everyone equally, you should treat them all differently." Like you can't go "Hey bro, listen about this super hot chick I just banged last night" to a female friend, now can you?
 

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Actually, I disagree, and let me quote something I first heard from a comedy radio show host.

"If you want to treat everyone equally, you should treat them all differently." Like you can't go "Hey bro, listen about this super hot chick I just banged last night" to a female friend, now can you?

I could, except that would imply I actually had friends.

#LoveNorbyPlz
 

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I could, except that would imply I actually had friends.

#LoveNorbyPlz
Oh Norby I love you! You're a fellow member of the club of people with regrettable distant relations!
 

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whats wrong with egalitarianism? thats what I am.
 
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