Guy thinks Pedo is Ok

[Psycho]

http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2010/02/the_desire_that_dare_not_speak.php

So this guy thinks we shouldn't kill all pedophiles like I think we should...and is saying being a pedophile is not a choice at all... I would like your thoughts, because personally I think they all have to potential to be child molesters and should be dropped into a pit with no food or water or clothing and left to rot.

Any comments?

 

[Margos]

Its called a paraphilia. Its the reason why some people think screwing a dead body is okay, the same reason people are gay, the same reason there is sex murder, the same reason people screw goats and the same reason people do bizarre shit. I'm not saying I condone it; but its not like its a stretch of the mind to assume that its normal for some people.

 

[Psycho]

It is when you have a couple of friends that have been molested and when there is a guy on a four wheeler riding around your neighborhood trying to talk to your little brother. I mean I understand having psychological problems that could cause this, but it shouldn't become acceptable.

 

[The Lionheart]

Its called a paraphilia. Its the reason why some people think screwing a dead body is okay, the same reason people are gay, the same reason there is sex murder, the same reason people screw goats and the same reason people do bizarre shit. I'm not saying I condone it; but its not like its a stretch of the mind to assume that its normal for some people.

Yeah... ...and said people should be...

http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2010/02/the_desire_that_dare_not_speak.php

. . . dropped into a pit with no food or water or clothing and left to rot.

:CHappy:


I don't like it, but it's out there. They're messed up. We aren't in the Roman era, anymore.
:CStern:

 

[Ols]

http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2010/02/the_desire_that_dare_not_speak.php

So this guy thinks we shouldn't kill all pedophiles like I think we should...and is saying being a pedophile is not a choice at all... I would like your thoughts, because personally I think they all have to potential to be child molesters and should be dropped into a pit with no food or water or clothing and left to rot.

Any comments?

Being a paedophile isn't a choice. Sexual attraction in any sense isn't a choice. Acting on it is. If a paedophile is able to live in society without acting upon it, I see no real problem with it. And even if he's looking at child porn on his computer, as long as he's not harming anyone, I really don't see what the problem is. I may not think it's right, in fact I think it's sick, but some people are just attracted that way, putting them in a hole because of something they don't even choose is inhumane.

Not to mention the fact that, by your logic, (for example) every straight man has the potential to be a rapist and should be prevented from doing so by extreme punishment.

 

[Jaqen H'ghar]

Its called a paraphilia. Its the reason why some people think screwing a dead body is okay, the same reason people are gay, the same reason there is sex murder, the same reason people screw goats and the same reason people do bizarre shit. I'm not saying I condone it; but its not like its a stretch of the mind to assume that its normal for some people.

Wait...what? Did you really throw that in there with the rest of those examples. The ****s wrong with you?

 

[Psycho]

Not to mention the fact that, by your logic, (for example) every straight man has the potential to be a rapist and should be prevented from doing so by extreme punishment.

You are right, kinda. But a straight man will seek fufillment in porn or women, wouldn't a pedo eventually seek fufillment in child porn or worse? Straight men have a way to take there urges out without hurting someone... Do pedos really have that?

 

[Jaqen H'ghar]

You are right, kinda. But a straight man will seek fufillment in porn or women, wouldn't a pedo eventually seek fufillment in child porn or worse? Straight men have a way to take there urges out without hurting someone... Do pedos really have that?

Well they can fantasize just like regular straight men as well. Hell in japan there's even lolicon, but lets not bring that up...the japanese are just odd sometimes.

 

[Margos]

Wait...what? Did you really throw that in there with the rest of those examples. The ****s wrong with you?

a lot.

 

[Ols]

You are right, kinda. But a straight man will seek fufillment in porn or women, wouldn't a pedo eventually seek fufillment in child porn or worse? Straight men have a way to take there urges out without hurting someone... Do pedos really have that?

A paedophile can take his angst out in various ways. If he turned to child porn, as long as it's not hurting anyone (ie the pictures aren't real) then I don't have a problem with what they do. It's when they start acting on it that it's a problem. If a paedophile was capable of keeping their tendancies to themselves, and even if they did delve into some porn occasionally, the I don't see why they should be punished...the guy in the article seemed a prime example of someone who couldn't help his sexual tendencies, but controlled them to live in a safe environment. So yeah, I suppose paedos do, to some extent.

 

[Psycho]

It's just one of those things I cannot wrap my head around I suppose.. Not when I've seen so many hurt and have this uber protectiveness over my brother.

 

[Keanu]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terbeschikkingstelling#Netherlands

also known as
Involuntary commitment


(Not sure if the Inv com is the same as here but thats what we should do to pedo's)

 

[Ser Gregor]

Invoke the wrath of the Paedofinder General.

On a side note, I don't believe Paedophiles should be executed (partly because I don't believe anyone should be executed, but that's for another thread). They're mentally unballanced most of the time.

That being said, childporn only feeds their problem, and I see a big problem with them looking at it (aside from the obvious fact that the children in the pics are horribly abused). Convicted Paedophiles should be brought to a mental hospital and treated, if possible. If they prove to be untreatable, let them serve the rest of their time before being released in to the care of a family member etc.

Also, I agree with Paedophile Watch Lists, but not when they're released to the public. That simply ensures they will be socially ostracized and that they'll never get a chance at life again, and will simply drive them away and back in to their old behaviour. The police knowing the names of all Paedophiles in the area, however, is essential.

 

[Keanu]

Invoke the wrath of the Paedofinder General.

On a side note, I don't believe Paedophiles should be executed (partly because I don't believe anyone should be executed, but that's for another thread). They're mentally unballanced most of the time.

That being said, childporn only feeds their problem, and I see a big problem with them looking at it (aside from the obvious fact that the children in the pics are horribly abused). Convicted Paedophiles should be brought to a mental hospital and treated, if possible. If they prove to be untreatable, let them serve the rest of their time before being released in to the care of a family member etc.

Also, I agree with Paedophile Watch Lists, but not when they're released to the public. That simply ensures they will be socially ostracized and that they'll never get a chance at life again, and will simply drive them away and back in to their old behaviour. The police knowing the names of all Paedophiles in the area, however, is essential.

I agree those watch lists are just so... counter productive. When the guy finally gets removed from inv commitment and brought back into society the person (which is ussualy a woman) starts going ape shit and tells the neighbourhood and makes it impossible for him to get back into society. this one guy was accualy removed from 2 citys here because of it.

the goverment should search for a proper neighbourhood for the guy (like a old people neighbourhood


EDIT: I can see where this thread is going and maybe move to current affairs?

 

[Ser Gregor]

EDIT: I can see where this thread is going and maybe move to current affairs?

Agreed.

 

[Kit]

Invoke the wrath of the Paedofinder General.

"Is not french kissing simply kissing with tongues?"
"...Yes."
"Then is not French cricket, cricket with tongues?"
"What? No!"
"PEADO!!"

 

[Ser Gregor]

"Is not french kissing simply kissing with tongues?"
"...Yes."
"Then is not French cricket, cricket with tongues?"
"What? No!"
"PEADO!!"

<3

 

[Margos]

Porn only worsens the problem. Like lets say hypothetically I get off on rape and beatings that appear genuine and not at all fake. Lets say this okay; so i masturbate to the idea and eventually I find rape and torture porns that appear real and masturbate to that constantly. Eventually the idea of rape and torture will replace any kind of normal sex and aberrant sexual ideals will take over. Cause you have to remember the idea isn't for it to be fake or acted. So the idea of a victim is going to seep its way in and fast. Like instead of looking at a hot girl at some place and saying man I'd like to screw her, no the thought would be like man I'd like to kick the crap out of her until she cries and then have sex with her. The same applies to this also. Eventually a said pedofile is going to think that the porn only gets you so far, just enough and there is a difference between watching somebody screw a kid and actually doing it. So eventually that line will be crossed out of sheer desperation and want for sexual pleasure and excitement. Cause think about it this way. Lets say we all have normal sexual appetites and we watch porn but never have sex ever. Porn will only get us so far until we seek out a partner.

 

[Ols]

Porn only worsens the problem. Like lets say hypothetically I get off on rape and beatings that appear genuine and not at all fake. Lets say this okay; so i masturbate to the idea and eventually I find rape and torture porns that appear real and masturbate to that constantly. Eventually the idea of rape and torture will replace any kind of normal sex and aberrant sexual ideals will take over. Cause you have to remember the idea isn't for it to be fake or acted. So the idea of a victim is going to seep its way in and fast. Like instead of looking at a hot girl at some place and saying man I'd like to screw her, no the thought would be like man I'd like to kick the crap out of her until she cries and then have sex with her.

Perhaps, or perhaps not. The problem is we can't say for sure how a given person is going to react. Obviously some paedophiles can live perfectly normal lives and not act upon their urges. Others can't and do act upon them. But it's unfair to penalise all of them pre-emptively because of what only some will do.

 

[Margos]

Perhaps, or perhaps not. The problem is we can't say for sure how a given person is going to react. Obviously some paedophiles can live perfectly normal lives and not act upon their urges. Others can't and do act upon them. But it's unfair to penalise all of them pre-emptively because of what only some will do.

That is true some may be afraid of the law or going to prison or feel that it is wrong. Though its still the idea that its there and isn't going away ever. Its not like when they developed what they liked that one day it'll die away.