Mancery/Hidden Art

[Green Ranger]

:rofl:

I loved that guy. Well, not really. In fact, I hated him. But I loved to hate him.

 

[Cailst]

I forget why but he managed to be on my AIM account, now he plays WOW. I'm not sure if he would be interested in coming back or if you guys would even want him back but I could try if you want me to.

 

[Ser Yorick]

Everyone loved to hate Enmity. Even Enmity. He was just a kid though, you can hardly blame him for his actions.

 

[Green Ranger]

Alright, i've had a bit of a thought. Since the staff seems to be so all over the place with this decision - and surprisingly uninformed, did it occur to you guys to ask me for an explanation? ( :whistle: ) - I'm simply requesting that i'm allowed the use of my Hidden Art sensitive characters as they are now (without the elemental Art attacks) without training or activating any other members until I provide you all with a detailed write-up on history, beliefs, traditions, a power manifesto with explanations for things such as fire, ice etc. This allows me to continue some storyline things I want to get done before I start up any potential academies anyway, and it means I can still participate in the RP without having to create new characters or completely revise Khavaal and Tyrn. If you ahve any ammendments to this to add, go nuts. I just don't want to be stuck in OOC until I sort this whole debacle out.

 

[Cailst]

For the elemental attacks, could they be drawn from the air or some other source that the mancer could draw matter from? Since life is mostly made out of four elements, much of that could be drawn from the air like nitrogen, oxygen, carbon from carbon dioxide, and hydrogen from water vapor.

 

[Ser Yorick]

Yes, Boli, you can go right ahead and continue RPing with those characters. We wouldn't want to force you to delete them or anything, in fact I would be saddened if you did.

 

[Green Ranger]

Damn right, they're good characters.

Wow, that was almost Kurt-quality arrogance.

 

[Ser Yorick]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The Inquisitor @ Sep 16 2007, 10:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

For the elemental attacks, could they be drawn from the air or some other source that the mancer could draw matter from? Since life is mostly made out of four elements, much of that could be drawn from the air like nitrogen, oxygen, carbon from carbon dioxide, and hydrogen from water vapor.[/b]

Just so you know, not every planet has the same combination of elements as Earth. And also, you can't just grab elements in the literal sense and create life or solid masses. In theory, you could, but we're not about to start throwing around powers as such, and even if it would be possible with the Force, I don't think anybody would be powerful enough and knowledgable enough to even attempt it.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grim @ Sep 16 2007, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Damn right, they're good characters.Wow, that was almost Kurt-quality arrogance.[/b]

Ah, but mine has more flair to it! And it's usually sarcastic or jokingly said, but no one notices it!

 

[Cailst]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(adroit @ Sep 16 2007, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Just so you know, not every planet has the same combination of elements as Earth. And also, you can't just grab elements in the literal sense and create life or solid masses. In theory, you could, but we're not about to start throwing around powers as such, and even if it would be possible with the Force, I don't think anybody would be powerful enough and knowledgable enough to even attempt it.[/b]

Since the characters would still be able to breath, I would assume that the atmosphere is close enough to earth. Plus, new atmospheres could allow creation of other stuff that need some of the other elements.

Since it is a seperate art, I don't see why a mancer wouldn't have those powers. They would make up for it in the lack of other things that force masters have. Plus, a restriction could be added to prevent them from taking atoms from living beings to prevent that from being a form of attack.

 

[Ser Yorick]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(The Inquisitor @ Sep 16 2007, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Since the characters would still be able to breath, I would assume that the atmosphere is close enough to earth. Plus, new atmospheres could allow creation of other stuff that need some of the other elements.

Since it is a seperate art, I don't see why a mancer wouldn't have those powers. They would make up for it in the lack of other things that force masters have. Plus, a restriction could be added to prevent them from taking atoms from living beings to prevent that from being a form of attack.[/b]

If you open one window to let some rain in, you're opening it up to let the storm in as well.

Meaning, if we start allowing powers like what you say, then where do we stop? People will say "well if this is possible, why can't we do that?" It's much better to just stick to what we have, and not get caught up in theoretical powers we're not even sure would work, even if you could manipulate atoms.

 

[Carden Mannux]

Isn't Force Teleport technically manipulating atoms?

 

[Jorax]

Well, I'd hate to say this, but it seems so weird that these abilities can not be done. I mean, not growing something from nothing, but combustion? That's achievable. If it wasn't, then why do we have a unified power for adding or subtracting atomic weight to objects? Can't those who know how to do that power be able to know what type of atoms they're adding and subtracting?

And if it cannot be done...then why did the Shadourians be able to do it? I got freakin' blown up in a tournament because the head Shadourian dude could do it. And his explanation was just like somebody who posted earlier that you must have oxygen and flammable stuff to make it happen. I even asked a couple admins, and since they approved the faction and power, I couldn't say anything about it. So why are you guys getting on Mancery now? Just speaking my opinion politely.

 

[Ser Yorick]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Carden Mannux @ Sep 16 2007, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Isn't Force Teleport technically manipulating atoms?[/b]

I meant to create life, and/or objects.


And Jorax, you could use the Force to create combustion yes, with the right fuels, such as some sort of gas and/or flammable object, but you can't just shoot a fireball from your fingers.

And as for crazy Shadourian powers, a lot of shit happened then that was overlooked. We're going to rectify this.

 

[Jorax]

that would be some sh** if you could shoot a fireball from your fingers.

 

[Lillianne Crasse]

Bac, Force Teleport works on a different principle, plus it is in the RP Rulebook as far as powers go. However, the other isn't. In other words, it wouldn't be a legit power playing in any table top RP.

Perhaps I should start working on that again since I scrapped it...lol.

 

[Green Ranger]

Kell, I'd love to run some of the nitty gritty stuff of the Hidden Art stuff by you sometime, that is, when I get it together. That fine by you?

 

[Lillianne Crasse]

I don't mind in the least, dear. You can talk to me on msn or just send it in pm and we can go back and forth.

 

[Green Ranger]

MSN's probably easier, simply because it allows quicker back-and-forth stuff, so it's easier to bounce ideas.

 

[Carden Mannux]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Nydia Sebek @ Sep 16 2007, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div>

Bac, Force Teleport works on a different principle, plus it is in the RP Rulebook as far as powers go. However, the other isn't. In other words, it wouldn't be a legit power playing in any table top RP.

Perhaps I should start working on that again since I scrapped it...lol.[/b]

I'm not questioning it's legitimacy, Kelly. I simply attempted to exploit what I believed to be a hole in Kurt's argument.

 

[Ser Yorick]

There is no hole in my argument, for controlling atoms is a little different than creating atoms, seeing as that is literally impossible. But think, someone trying to actually manipulate atoms in the air, and mix them to exact specifications to create life? Yeah, riiiiiight. First off, creating life with the Force is kind of silly, I mean, Palpatine tried to convince Anakin that it was possible, but we don't know if he was lying or not. But either way, creating life, and teleporting a few feet away are pretty different.