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Why would a sexual orientation and an immoral and damaging mental disorder be mutually exclusive? It just seems to be an orientation that isn't okay by just about common standard of morality. The possibility of permissible and impermissible (acted upon) orientations seems reasonable.

Actually agree with this; it can still be an orientation, just an unacceptable one.
 

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Generally I have trouble believing pedophilia could ever come to fruition here in America, because even the ancient Greeks exiled one of their most beloved great minds Aristotle for his charges of "corruption of the youth" (Though lets be honest since considering the term gymnasium was synonomous in greek culture with having young boys naked during their education and basically worshipping the young human body didn't make it hard for pedophilic mindset to come about) and so a that-much-more religious and less morally ambiguous society would be that much more set against it.

But I think its foolish to completely discredit the idea, just going off on a tangent in my head here, pedophilia isn't the only self-destructive sexually-related mindset around. I know I'll get plenty of flak for it, but consider trans-sexuals, who do the damage they do to their body in an unnatural change of sex. And in the end its really just a cosmetic change. I don't care what you think about trans-sexuals, its just a fact the process is damaging and I've seen what it can do to the mind to. We're already allowing plenty of self-destructive tendencies, and this is just another one. Everything is a slippery slope.

Not to mention we've made it that much easier now for pedophiles to do what they do, since we've been pushing all these laws under the guise of healthcare, allowing young girls to buy birth control, which really helps pedophiles keep any "accidents" from occurring more then it does ever help any child by forcing them to buy it. So it doesn't matter if we officially legalize it or not we're still making it easier for them to do what they do. Though I aknowledge my example applies more to girls then boys and yes, plenty of boys are abused as well.

Regardless this topic has depressed me now.
 

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Generally I have trouble believing pedophilia could ever come to fruition here in America, because even the ancient Greeks exiled one of their most beloved great minds Aristotle for his charges of "corruption of the youth" (Though lets be honest since considering the term gymnasium was synonomous in greek culture with having young boys naked during their education and basically worshipping the young human body didn't make it hard for pedophilic mindset to come about) and so a that-much-more religious and less morally ambiguous society would be that much more set against it.


HULKERO JUST POINT OUT THAT GREEKS MUCH MORE AMBIGUOUS TOWARDS PEDERASTY (REALLY EPHEBOPHILIA WAY THEY STRUCTURE INFANCY AND CHILD REARING.) EVEN LYCURGUS (WHO CLOSEST PLUTARCH GET BIBLE BANGER OR THEOGONY BANGER IN AEGEAN CASE) ALLOW MAN-CHILD-TEEN BONDS THAT FIND UNACCEPTABLE NOW. HULKERO NOT A FAN, AND TENDENCY TO PATHOLOGIZE (AND ITS FLIP SIDE) MYTHOLOGIZE GREEK FASCINATION YOUNG WAY OVERBLOWN. ALSO ENTIRELY UNACCEPTABLE IN CONTEXT OF YOUR POST. BECAUSE SEE HULKERO UNDERSTAND LITTLE TIPS TRICKS WRITER. THIS CALLED A CONTEXTUALIZING INTRODUCTION. IT BASICALLY SOFTEN WHAT READER ABOUT TO READ WITH PATINA OR SHEEN OF HISTORICISM. IT LIKE WHEN ACADEMIC RACISTS MITIGATE NOXIOUS IMAGE WITH SWEATERVEST AND PERHAPS DENUNCIATION OF OLDER BIGOTRIES BASED ON NONSENSE LIKE PHRENOLOGY. WHICH BRING HULKERO TO OTHER PART POST.

But I think its foolish to completely discredit the idea,

THIS BEGINNING TELL RIGHT HERE. WHERE WANT SET UP OWN PERSONAL SEXUAL ETHOS AS VANGUARD AGAINST UNACCEPTABLE PREJUDICE (OH HULKERO GET SILLY TRANSPHOBIA IN BIT.) BECAUSE IDEA NOT LOGICALLY FOLLOW. WHAT HISTORICISM ABOUT GREEKS HAVE DO AMERICAN COMPARATIVE RELIGIOSITY? THERE NOT EVEN CENSUS OF COMPARATIVE STUDY ASKING ABOUT WHETHER CORRELATION BETWEEN CRIMINAL SEXUAL CONGRESS AND RELATIVE RELIGION OF SOCIETY. OR OMEG ARGUING THAT FOR EXAMPLE LARGELY IRRELIGIOUS NORDIC EUROPE DEN OF SEXUAL INIQUITY AS COMPARED UNITED STATES? WHAT ABOUT FUNDAMENTALIST SOCIETY? ETC.

just going off on a tangent in my head here, pedophilia isn't the only self-destructive sexually-related mindset around. I know I'll get plenty of flak for it, but consider trans-sexuals, who do the damage they do to their body in an unnatural change of sex. And in the end its really just a cosmetic change. I don't care what you think about trans-sexuals, its just a fact the process is damaging and I've seen what it can do to the mind to. We're already allowing plenty of self-destructive tendencies, and this is just another one. Everything is a slippery slope.

SOURCES? ANYTHING RELATED IN FACT? BECAUSE BASICALLY THIS NICE WAY OF RENDERING OWN FEAR OF INADEQUATE GENDER-IDENTITY AS SOME SORT CONCERN TRANSEXUAL INDIVIDUALS? DAMAGING? HULKERO REMEMBER ARGUMENTS ANTI-GAY BIGOTS THAT GAY IDENTITY DAMAGING. YEAH ASSHOLES BECAUSE PEOPLE PERSECUTE GAYS. THAT BOUND HAVE PSYCHOLOGICAL REPERCUSSIONS. HULKERO NOT ICKED OUT OR JUDGING TRANSGENDER BROTHERS AND SISTERS. HULKERO SAD THAT APPARENTLY TOO HARD FOR YOU.

Not to mention we've made it that much easier now for pedophiles to do what they do, since we've been pushing all these laws under the guise of healthcare, allowing young girls to buy birth control,

BIRTH CONTROL NOT UNDER GUISE HEALTH CARE? SERIOUSLY? DO OMEG UNDERSTAND HOW SEX WORK? NOT REALIZE THAT WOMEN USE BIRTH CONTROL TO CONTROL THEIR HEALTH CYCLE? REPRODUCTION NOT JUST ABOUT BONING, DUDE. IT PART OF HEALTH.

AND WHY YOUNG GIRLS NOT ABLE BUY BIRTH CONTROL? HULKERO ONCE AGAIN NOTE YOUR DISHONEST FRAMING HERE. WHAT CONSTITUTE YOUNG GIRL? HULKERO HAVE DAUGHTER AND WHEN SHE REACH AGE SEXUAL MATURITY HE WANT HER HAVE ACCESS SAME OPPORTUNITIES HER MOTHER HAD. THIS MAKE HULKERO (AND MANY MILLIONS OTHER AMERICANS LIKE HIM) PEDERASTY ENABLERS?


which really helps pedophiles keep any "accidents" from occurring more then it does ever help any child by forcing them to buy it. So it doesn't matter if we officially legalize it or not we're still making it easier for them to do what they do. Though I aknowledge my example applies more to girls then boys and yes, plenty of boys are abused as well.

HULKERO AT LEAST GIVE YOU CREDIT NOT USING SLUTS SLUTS SLUTS AS ARGUMENT. BUT HULKERO STILL DISGUSTED BY SEXUAL REACTIONARY LIKE YOU. PEDOPHILES, ETC. ARE SICK PEOPLE. SHOULD TREAT THEM AND PROTECT CHILDREN. NOT USE INCIDENCE EVIL IN WORLD TO SUPPORT OTHER EVIL LIKE CLOISTERING WOMEN OR MAKING FUNDAMENTAL BASIS WOMENS HEALTH (BECAUSE REPRODUCTION BIG PART THAT JABRONI) LESS AVAILABLE.

HULKERO NOT SURE IF FUNDAMENTALLY DISHONEST OR IF SOME SORT SEXUAL TORQUEMADA. EITHER WAY OMEGINATION SET UP CLEAR MARKER AS TERRIBLE PERSON. HULKERO HOPE NOT CONTINUE MUTILATE SELF-IDENTITY BY POSTS LIKE THIS. HULKERO KNOW HE GET LOT FLACK FOR IT, BUT HE ASSHOLEPHOBIC.


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So he must let the world go on thinking that Prospero is dead, until he can find a way to control the raging spirit that dwells within him.
 
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I don't mean to be the nineball here but didn't full grown men marry like 14 year olds a thousand or so+ years ago? o,,o
Not to say I agree, since I don't think such young minds are matured or developed enough to handle the mental complexities of an intimate relationship of any kind, but is it not the truth?

Though Humanity has always been derpy since we figured out how to smash rocks and make fire, nothing new there.
 

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I don't mean to be the nineball here but didn't full grown men marry like 14 year olds a thousand or so+ years ago? o,,o
Not to say I agree, since I don't think such young minds are matured or developed enough to handle the mental complexities of an intimate relationship of any kind, but is it not the truth?

Though Humanity has always been derpy since we figured out how to smash rocks and make fire, nothing new there.

I'm a 100% sure I could find your name on a sex offender registry.
 

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Not to mention we've made it that much easier now for pedophiles to do what they do, since we've been pushing all these laws under the guise of healthcare, allowing young girls to buy birth control, which really helps pedophiles keep any "accidents" from occurring more then it does ever help any child by forcing them to buy it. So it doesn't matter if we officially legalize it or not we're still making it easier for them to do what they do. Though I aknowledge my example applies more to girls then boys and yes, plenty of boys are abused as well.

Regardless this topic has depressed me now.


"**** can't buy any birth control, guess I'm not doing anything tonight." - No pedophile ever.

Okay, Let me start by saying that I do not believe you are a bad person. But I will say that you are either ignorant of what really goes on in abuse/rape situations or...well, I'm actually just going to believe that. You're just ignorant.

I've worked with survivors of sexual violence. My friends are survivors of domestic rape. I am a survivor of incest. In EVERY case of sexual violence I have heard, discussed, or read about it was ALWAYS about power and control over the victim. Birth control had absolutely NO IMPACT on these cases.

In these cases, the abuser sought OTHER means of control. Most of it is psychological. Taunting, guilt, power play are all tactics used by abusers to keep control over their victims. There is this shitty undercurrent in our society that we find SOME reason other than the fact that a person is a suck **** to explain sexual assault. In almost EVERY instance, the survivor is blamed. Reasons have included:

the way a person dressed. walking to their car after work. not screaming enough. not telling someone right away. not fighting back. it is their wifely/spousely duty to have sex even if by force. they were too sexually repressed anyway and had it coming. they had one martini five hours ago. not carrying a gun.

Survivors are told that they are unclean, tainted, and impure. We are told are we are now "damaged goods" because of this bullshit in society that teaches about how a woman's sexuality is tied to her worth. I see this often in the churches I've gone to and the minute someone brings it up, I'm gone. No, I don't give them a chance to explain their reasoning because in my experience they come up with a bullshit answer why woman's worth=sexuality. God at least gives women credit for being excellent managers and capable of political powerplays. This is probably why I only found a HANDFUL of churches I feel at home in.

Look, I don't mean to make you feel like shit. I really don't. But I REALLY wanted to address the bullshit ignorance that is out there about sexual violence in case OTHERS read it. It's mostly about those guys. So maybe, just maybe, another person doesn't go through life with the idea that giving women the right to choose their own fates (birthcontrol) means that we're somehow making it easier for sick ****s to get away with it. Because TRUST ME, we already do.

p.s. I hate internet tough guys. I really do. Because you NEVER know what you'll do in a situation, until it happens to you. Not related to you, 'Illa. I just wanted to throw it out there.
 

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Generally I have trouble believing pedophilia could ever come to fruition here in America, because even the ancient Greeks exiled one of their most beloved great minds Aristotle for his charges of "corruption of the youth" (Though lets be honest since considering the term gymnasium was synonomous in greek culture with having young boys naked during their education and basically worshipping the young human body didn't make it hard for pedophilic mindset to come about) and so a that-much-more religious and less morally ambiguous society would be that much more set against it.

But I think its foolish to completely discredit the idea, just going off on a tangent in my head here, pedophilia isn't the only self-destructive sexually-related mindset around. I know I'll get plenty of flak for it, but consider trans-sexuals, who do the damage they do to their body in an unnatural change of sex. And in the end its really just a cosmetic change. I don't care what you think about trans-sexuals, its just a fact the process is damaging and I've seen what it can do to the mind to. We're already allowing plenty of self-destructive tendencies, and this is just another one. Everything is a slippery slope.

Not to mention we've made it that much easier now for pedophiles to do what they do, since we've been pushing all these laws under the guise of healthcare, allowing young girls to buy birth control, which really helps pedophiles keep any "accidents" from occurring more then it does ever help any child by forcing them to buy it. So it doesn't matter if we officially legalize it or not we're still making it easier for them to do what they do. Though I aknowledge my example applies more to girls then boys and yes, plenty of boys are abused as well.

Regardless this topic has depressed me now.

Birth control promotes pedophilia? This is absolutely the most idiotic thing I've ever heard on this website, and trust me, I've heard a lot of ****ed up nonsense here. You're a disgusting human being. In fact, I think humanity would be better off if you could **** off from civilized society and lived as an hermit in a desert somewhere. That way, none of would have to deal with the shit that comes out of your mouth. Your mother must be very embarrassed.
 
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Pedophilia exists. It's impossible to deny. Whether or not it existed in the past is irrelevant, we also used to kill people in guillotines and go invading countries to install our leaders cousins to the throne. The problem is that pedophilia laws do not match what pedophilia actually is, there should be a grey zone in ages, similar to Romeo and Juliet laws. Not a hard line at any given age where there's an assumption that people make a leap in emotional sophistication at some arbitrary age.

What really irks me is the double standard set forth about female pedophiles and male pedophiles. It shouldn't be okay that a 40 year old woman finds Justin Bieber to be sexy at 14 while a 40 year old man who finds Miley Cyrus at 14 equally pleasing is considered a twisted pervert. So, my platitude for the day is: gender inequality exists both ways in sexuality.
 

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Pedophilia exists. It's impossible to deny. Whether or not it existed in the past is irrelevant, we also used to kill people in guillotines and go invading countries to install our leaders cousins to the throne. The problem is that pedophilia laws do not match what pedophilia actually is, there should be a grey zone in ages, similar to Romeo and Juliet laws. Not a hard line at any given age where there's an assumption that people make a leap in emotional sophistication at some arbitrary age.

What really irks me is the double standard set forth about female pedophiles and male pedophiles. It shouldn't be okay that a 40 year old woman finds Justin Bieber to be sexy at 14 while a 40 year old man who finds Miley Cyrus at 14 equally pleasing is considered a twisted pervert. So, my platitude for the day is: gender inequality exists both ways in sexuality.

Not really. And how is that an issue at all?

Looks like more B.S about how men are "oppressed"
 

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Dr. Prospero, Lawyer/Internet Asshole, searching for a way to tap into the hidden strengths that all humans have. Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation interacts with his unique body chemistry. And now, when Prospero grows angry or outraged, a startling metamorphosis occurs...


HULKERO AGREE SAUL. OLD COUGAR LUSTING TWEEN POP IDOL IN ABSTRACT TOTALLY SAME AS LEGALISTIC MACHINERY THAT TRIVIALIZE AND INVERT BLAME, ETC. WHEN COME RAPE AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE.




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So he must let the world go on thinking that Prospero is dead, until he can find a way to control the raging spirit that dwells within him.
 

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Not really. And how is that an issue at all?

Looks like more B.S about how men are "oppressed"

Men oppress men. I believe male sexism against men is why homophobia exists, and why female pedophilia is more acceptable to the general public. Expectations put on men attempt to maintain a image of what a man should be, which is exactly what sexism against women does. There almost seems to be a social expectation that male victims of pedophilia should enjoy it. Is it wrong to oppose it?
 

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HULKERO AGREE SAUL. OLD COUGAR LUSTING TWEEN POP IDOL IN ABSTRACT TOTALLY SAME AS LEGALISTIC MACHINERY THAT TRIVIALIZE AND INVERT BLAME, ETC. WHEN COME RAPE AND SEXUAL VIOLENCE.

This is a great example of irony. The person who is arguing with me in the Paul Walker thread should read this.
 

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Dr. Prospero, Lawyer/Internet Asshole, searching for a way to tap into the hidden strengths that all humans have. Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation interacts with his unique body chemistry. And now, when Prospero grows angry or outraged, a startling metamorphosis occurs...



HULKERO HAVE SAYING. WHEN I HAVE MY BOOT ON YOUR NECK JUST AS SURELY AS YOU ARE NOT MOVING NEITHER AM I. AN OPPRESSIVE CULTURE ETIOLATE SOUL OF EVEN THE PRIVILEGED. THAT TRUE. BUT IT COMPLETE NONSENSE AND RED HERRING TO POST ABOUT WOMEN WHO TIGERBEAT ABOUT THE BEEBS. IF YOU TERRIBLE WRITER THAT FINE (NOT EVERYONE CRISP RHETOR LIKE HULKERO.) BUT OTHERWISE YOU JUST SOUND LIKE ASSHOLE.




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So he must let the world go on thinking that Prospero is dead, until he can find a way to control the raging spirit that dwells within him.
 

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I'm a 100% sure I could find your name on a sex offender registry.

I'm a 100% sure I ****ing hate you now, way to be an ass bro. I'm not even old enough to be, so how do you feel.
EDIT: And I don't wanna hear an "I was joking" BS because it's not even a topic to joke about.
 
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HULKERO JUST POINT OUT THAT GREEKS MUCH MORE AMBIGUOUS TOWARDS PEDERASTY (REALLY EPHEBOPHILIA WAY THEY STRUCTURE INFANCY AND CHILD REARING.) EVEN LYCURGUS (WHO CLOSEST PLUTARCH GET BIBLE BANGER OR THEOGONY BANGER IN AEGEAN CASE) ALLOW MAN-CHILD-TEEN BONDS THAT FIND UNACCEPTABLE NOW. HULKERO NOT A FAN, AND TENDENCY TO PATHOLOGIZE (AND ITS FLIP SIDE) MYTHOLOGIZE GREEK FASCINATION YOUNG WAY OVERBLOWN. ALSO ENTIRELY UNACCEPTABLE IN CONTEXT OF YOUR POST. BECAUSE SEE HULKERO UNDERSTAND LITTLE TIPS TRICKS WRITER. THIS CALLED A CONTEXTUALIZING INTRODUCTION. IT BASICALLY SOFTEN WHAT READER ABOUT TO READ WITH PATINA OR SHEEN OF HISTORICISM. IT LIKE WHEN ACADEMIC RACISTS MITIGATE NOXIOUS IMAGE WITH SWEATERVEST AND PERHAPS DENUNCIATION OF OLDER BIGOTRIES BASED ON NONSENSE LIKE PHRENOLOGY. WHICH BRING HULKERO TO OTHER PART POST.



THIS BEGINNING TELL RIGHT HERE. WHERE WANT SET UP OWN PERSONAL SEXUAL ETHOS AS VANGUARD AGAINST UNACCEPTABLE PREJUDICE (OH HULKERO GET SILLY TRANSPHOBIA IN BIT.) BECAUSE IDEA NOT LOGICALLY FOLLOW. WHAT HISTORICISM ABOUT GREEKS HAVE DO AMERICAN COMPARATIVE RELIGIOSITY? THERE NOT EVEN CENSUS OF COMPARATIVE STUDY ASKING ABOUT WHETHER CORRELATION BETWEEN CRIMINAL SEXUAL CONGRESS AND RELATIVE RELIGION OF SOCIETY. OR OMEG ARGUING THAT FOR EXAMPLE LARGELY IRRELIGIOUS NORDIC EUROPE DEN OF SEXUAL INIQUITY AS COMPARED UNITED STATES? WHAT ABOUT FUNDAMENTALIST SOCIETY? ETC.



SOURCES? ANYTHING RELATED IN FACT? BECAUSE BASICALLY THIS NICE WAY OF RENDERING OWN FEAR OF INADEQUATE GENDER-IDENTITY AS SOME SORT CONCERN TRANSEXUAL INDIVIDUALS? DAMAGING? HULKERO REMEMBER ARGUMENTS ANTI-GAY BIGOTS THAT GAY IDENTITY DAMAGING. YEAH ASSHOLES BECAUSE PEOPLE PERSECUTE GAYS. THAT BOUND HAVE PSYCHOLOGICAL REPERCUSSIONS. HULKERO NOT ICKED OUT OR JUDGING TRANSGENDER BROTHERS AND SISTERS. HULKERO SAD THAT APPARENTLY TOO HARD FOR YOU.



BIRTH CONTROL NOT UNDER GUISE HEALTH CARE? SERIOUSLY? DO OMEG UNDERSTAND HOW SEX WORK? NOT REALIZE THAT WOMEN USE BIRTH CONTROL TO CONTROL THEIR HEALTH CYCLE? REPRODUCTION NOT JUST ABOUT BONING, DUDE. IT PART OF HEALTH.

AND WHY YOUNG GIRLS NOT ABLE BUY BIRTH CONTROL? HULKERO ONCE AGAIN NOTE YOUR DISHONEST FRAMING HERE. WHAT CONSTITUTE YOUNG GIRL? HULKERO HAVE DAUGHTER AND WHEN SHE REACH AGE SEXUAL MATURITY HE WANT HER HAVE ACCESS SAME OPPORTUNITIES HER MOTHER HAD. THIS MAKE HULKERO (AND MANY MILLIONS OTHER AMERICANS LIKE HIM) PEDERASTY ENABLERS?




HULKERO AT LEAST GIVE YOU CREDIT NOT USING SLUTS SLUTS SLUTS AS ARGUMENT. BUT HULKERO STILL DISGUSTED BY SEXUAL REACTIONARY LIKE YOU. PEDOPHILES, ETC. ARE SICK PEOPLE. SHOULD TREAT THEM AND PROTECT CHILDREN. NOT USE INCIDENCE EVIL IN WORLD TO SUPPORT OTHER EVIL LIKE CLOISTERING WOMEN OR MAKING FUNDAMENTAL BASIS WOMENS HEALTH (BECAUSE REPRODUCTION BIG PART THAT JABRONI) LESS AVAILABLE.

HULKERO NOT SURE IF FUNDAMENTALLY DISHONEST OR IF SOME SORT SEXUAL TORQUEMADA. EITHER WAY OMEGINATION SET UP CLEAR MARKER AS TERRIBLE PERSON. HULKERO HOPE NOT CONTINUE MUTILATE SELF-IDENTITY BY POSTS LIKE THIS. HULKERO KNOW HE GET LOT FLACK FOR IT, BUT HE ASSHOLEPHOBIC.


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So he must let the world go on thinking that Prospero is dead, until he can find a way to control the raging spirit that dwells within him.


Honestly the green text hulk-speech is getting harder to read. If you intend to make a intelligible reply in a conversation like this, one of the first steps is to not to make it such a laborious process to read due to the format you choose to present it in. Just saying.

To the first portion I won't waste much time addressing since its just a analyzation (I know that word is spelled wrong but I cannot remember how to spell it and auto-correct is giving me all the wrong words and I am too stubborn to look it up.) of my opening and I do say its a fair overall insight on it.

And to be fair your post doesn't offer any sources of its own, just as a side note. You're being as anecdotal as I and neither one of us are really playing a devil's advocate right now so lets not be childish here when we're both guilty of the same crime.

And ultimately I would take your post serious if not for this constant reliance on the term "phobic" which has become so overused and honestly, I take offense to. You calling me a "homophobe"/"transphobe" you are essentially calling my entire thought irrelevent and based purely as a knee-jerk reaction. You're basically telling me out of the gate there is no value to what I am saying. Because there couldn't possibly be any reason whatsoever, no viability for the thought that perhaps this whole thing might be not all together right. You ultimately make yourself out to be the true "phobe" by trying to put everything in a box, that all the opposition to what you think is just out of fear...

Fear of what, though? I have concerns, which pen-ultimately amount to "fears" I suppose, regarding this blind faith in modernism/progressivism. That letting young girls at what, 14 years old? Have birth control? Will somehow not result in problems. That completely dismantling the meaning of a marriage in the United States will have no possibility of effecting the structure of this country in any way. That the concept of a slippery slope is a myth.

I'd say the whole "friends line" but I know the immediate response to that. "no it doesn't matter you made friends with a gay you're still a homophobe... somehow."

And for the record I don't know where this whole thing about rape came from, about the whole blaming-the-victim. I believe I expressed my opinion rather intelligibly back in the Lad Culture thread. You really provided no thought to reply to my point. You just demeaned it. Its still a fact if we make birth control availible to essentially children that pedophiles can easily coerce their victims into obtaining it, to prevent any sort of pregnancy. The child stays quiet and there is no newborn to bring up any questions. Regardless, you've really no basis for this whole thing regarding pedophilia being a sickness at your own viewpoint. How do you just draw that line? Do you know? I'd like to know. Because a bunch of people got together to say it is? I am afraid I don't subscribe to the Übermensch thought. Once you take one step you inevitably take another. 25 years ago, LGBT groups never claimed gay marriage was on the discussion table, now they demand it like its a right. Because now suddenly statuses are a right in America, because yes, Marriage is a status. Just like King, or prince, and we don't have rights to statuses here in America. And its only been in the last few years that it started. There was a time when it was thought being gay was a choice, now you're just "born" gay, like that actually matters. Because yeah, we're all born with tendencies.

"Why doesn't the guy with anger problems get to let his frustration out? its just natural. Let him express himself like the gays. Let the pedophiles express themselves too, you bigot." Thats going to be the next arguement. Each time people like you refute it'll ever reach that point then in a matter of decades its at each and every person's doorstep and we either have to accept it with open arms, or we're bigots. You're proving it right now since I am not just closing my eyes and opening my arms that you're calling me a homophobe, transphobe, etc.

Regardless, this is my last post on this subject. I knew I'd get flak for it and I am sure people will be picking this post to bits as well. You need an enemy, and you're all "assholephobic" (real cute btw) and you can't have your enemy having anything to his own argument, so you have to box him up in a neat bow, that hes just a bigot and a homophobe and that there is nothing of value to what he says. Because thats how we increase our intellectualism. And because of that, you'll believe what you want to and you'll never see me as anything more then a monster in that respect.
 

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