Rise of the Wookiees OOC

[Malon]

Creating this OOC thread just in case we need it. Just so that we're all clear on positioning (though I don't think it's dubious right now), rebel side has Greybok (me) and Aldo (@Zay) in the Starbird. We will also be bringing in @Kayenta Moenkopi (in her own ship) so that it is 2-ships-to-2-ships.

After everybody has made their opening posts, I would recommend that we group posting order by faction: rebels go, then Imperials. That way the reading is more fluid and it'll be easier to keep track of who's turn it is. Each team will have 72 hours to post.

Additionally, once Kayenta has entered and made her OP, I would recommend we close the thread so that it doesn't get much bigger. Five people on two ships is enough as it is.

Can we all agree to that? @Nightfall @Danee

Edit: Additionally, any co-pilot NPCs can be treated as PCs for this PvP since co-pilot NPCs are often needed to successfully operate player ships. This goes for both sides. This should ensure that we are all on even footing with two fully-operational ships.

 

[Malon]

@Nightfall @Danee @Kayenta Moenkopi @Zay

Now that combat has begun, I propose, for the sake of simplicity, we post in team blocks:

Rebels
Imperials

Per the rules, each side will have 72 hours for their people to post. Let's try and have an amicable (and fun) dogfight :P

 

[Kayenta Moenkopi]

agreed

 

[Nightfall]

Sorry for the delay but yep all sounds good to me :D let’s have some fun!

 

[Nightfall]

@Malon I just had one question about your sidecar turret. What sort of rotation can it do? From the looks of the image it looks like it only faces forward but it’s on an angle, I just didn’t want to assume anything if that’s okay? Thanks!

 

[Danee]

 

[Nightfall]

@Malon @Danee @Kayenta Moenkopi @Zay

And sorry hey friends, just with this first round of posting I did actually want to clarify positioning, as some of the writing confused me. I'm going to do a little map of how I think it is (and what seems to fit with what's written), feel free to clarify, and I'll mention a few things that confused me:

G


M A N

​

G is Greybok, M is Merrick, A for Ashlaa, N for Ner.

Does that make sense to everyone?

(There should be a bigger gap between M/A and N, but it doesn't show up when I post, only in the editor)

This seems to follow my positioning at the Starbirds flank, Ashlaa next to me, Ner looking at our flank, and the starbirds groundsweeper turning to its stern to fire at us, moving from Ashlaa to Merrick in that order to fire. Ner can then fire her groundsweeper from this position.

What I wanted to say then was that, is Ner's ship facing forwards at us? and, if that is the positioning, then Ner can't fire her aft turret at Ashlaa, as it can't shoot through the ship to her, if that makes sense.

If the ship is side on to us (as in, still in that position but horizontally so it's cockpit is the same way as everyone else), I just wanted to clarify where the aft turret ball is, as in the image a mynock's engines stretch back quite far and I don't really know where it is in relation to this, and where exactly it's firing from.

Thanks pals :D

 

[Kayenta Moenkopi]

off the top of my head i was picturing it more like this with Nera to one side of the IR ships and Greybok to the other So that the GA folks are flanking the IR ones.

This placed the Tempest Hunter on the one side of the two Imperial ships that were flying in close formation to one another and The Starbird upon the other. Hopefully the flanking maneuver...

<--- from my post.


----G----
----------
--M-A---
----------
----N----

AS for shooting from the ball turret at Ashlaa...well i don't see a ball turret in the picture of a mynock at all. i see front mounted lasers, which the write up does not include. It does say '1x aft dual light laser ball turret', which is in the rear of the ship toward the tail section.

But i thought since it was a ball turret it could turn in all directions to line up a shot provided nothing was blocking it, like the hull of its own ship...which if it couldn't shoot without striking my own ship I would consider that a pretty serious engineering flaw. Can they not shoot along the underbelly of the vessel to make forward facing strikes?

 

[Kayenta Moenkopi]

i want to acknowledge that I might not understand what a ball turret is. So I am providing pictures to better explain what I am invisioning.

Ball turret

placement under ship in the aft section....

so with it sticking out like that underneath my ship, i thought i could shoot along the underbelly without blowing myself up in all directions of rotation. which you can see that the SW version is a lot bigger than the WWII kind. The gunner has quit a bit more room.

luke and Han are climbing down/up quite a few rungs on those ladders when they are taking to the falcon's ball turrets.

 

[Nightfall]

Yeah cool, also happy with that positioning, I'll let the others weigh in if they have thoughts.

As for the turret yeah I had pictured something like the top one mounted on your rear, but like you said it's not in the picture so I wasn't sure either.

Depending on what you all think we can always ask one of the techmods to clarify? Once I realised it seemed relevant to clarify :)

@Malon @Zay @Danee

 

[Danee]

I'll give a detailed response in a while

 

[Kayenta Moenkopi]

i totally agree. I too wish to know how it really works so I do it right!

But I didn't take aft to mean a rear mounted assembly on the tail but just in the back section of the craft with underbelly mounting. if it does mean on the tail... well dang. lol. no way i could make any shots to cover forward facing action at all!

 

[Danee]

Okay, so, I finally managed to hide away at a bathroom at work and I'm writing this from my phone, so, bear with me.

Positioning - So, regarding positioning of our respective Starfighters and Freighters I was imagining something more akin to what @Kayenta Moenkopi is suggesting with a slight alteration. Instead of us being on a levelled plane I thought of it something like this.


-------------------------
----N------------------
--------------A/M----
------------------------G

And if we look from above

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----------G-------------
-------------------------
--------M-A-----------
-------------------------
-------------------------
----------N-------------


I don't think that Nera would be close enough to the trio to place too accurate shots so soon, sure, probably within shooting distance but instead of the close "quarters" that Ashlaa, Marrick and Greybok find themselves in, she's probably closer towards her ships mid-range capabilities when it comes to firepower rather than optimal distance.


The Ball Turret - Now, I was a bit tired when I read the post, I have to admit, but, I'll give it a read over again when I'm back at the Hotel, but from this OOC discussion and from what I remember from the post, I imagine something more akin to a Tailgunner than the Ball point gunner on the LAATi.

Something like the Lancaster's tail gunner position.

But, these are just my two cents. Regarding positioning we all can come to an agreement, but what type of Turret it is, I think either Loco or AutoFox should be brought in for a proper clarification.

 

[Kayenta Moenkopi]

I said in my entry post "When at last she came close enough to be an effective aid to Greybok and Aldo, "
This is not a sticking point for me at all. and I am fine with however you guys define 'close enough to be effective' as being.
I truly think that leeway needs to be granted the IR because of posting order. To get us into block/faction posting....i literally got two turns and that is not fair.

and the turret? i agree we do need clarification because I will need to rewrite it if it a tail mounting, rather than just the aft section of the mynock.

 

[Danee]

I'll tag both @Loco and @AutoFox for clarification regarding the Rear Turret position on the Mynock.

 

[AutoFox]

'fraid you were right, the Mynock's turret is in roughly the same position as a Lancaster's rear turret. It wouldn't be able to fire forward.

 

[Danee]

Cheers for the quick response, Auto!

 

[Kayenta Moenkopi]

thank you. i shall edit if that is alright.

just gonna delete the gunners part and leave the rest alone.

 

[Danee]

Yeah, go ahead, I don't have any issues with that

 

[Kayenta Moenkopi]

Edits have been made. i just isolated it all with a strike through in a spoiler and a hot link to AutoFox' ruling.
thank you for doing this. I am learning so much!

<3