Sector Rangers

[Iain 89]

@Sarah Vez - That's it! Annual refresher! Sort of what I meant, I just don't know how to explain things sometimes. Do you agree/disagree?
What elements would make up the course, what do u imagine?

@Darasuum - Do you feel that is a good thing or a bad thing?
How would you like this to be done?

 

[Loco]

I like and support the "annual refresher" training idea, with all of you taking part as students under an NPC. I'd also recommend sticking to one class or training objective rather than trying to fit a bunch of stuff into one long thread- it's likely to drag on forever that way.

As for location- we originally said headquarters was going to be on Coruscant as it is traditionally the center of the Republic. With the Republic of this timeline being centered on Chandrilla, I'm inclined to move our headquarters and training center there. Imagine all the nice countryside views!

I'll get to writing more about our infrastructure and organization when I get some time. This is the first day I've actually had internet in my room here and I'm still catching up on a lot of personal RL tasks on top of working, so things have been pretty slow. That said, I'm more than happy to answer whatever questions you guys have in the meantime.

 

[Iain 89]

I like and support the "annual refresher" training idea, with all of you taking part as students under an NPC. I'd also recommend sticking to one class or training objective rather than trying to fit a bunch of stuff into one long thread- it's likely to drag on forever that way.

As for location- we originally said headquarters was going to be on Coruscant as it is traditionally the center of the Republic. With the Republic of this timeline being centered on Chandrilla, I'm inclined to move our headquarters and training center there. Imagine all the nice countryside views!

I'll get to writing more about our infrastructure and organization when I get some time. This is the first day I've actually had internet in my room here and I'm still catching up on a lot of personal RL tasks on top of working, so things have been pretty slow. That said, I'm more than happy to answer whatever questions you guys have in the meantime.

Hi Mr.Loco !
Thank you for taking time to reply, I know you are busy.
One little problem with there being only one training class would be that some of us are fighters, some of us are tech or investigating specialists.
If the class was about Computer skills, my guy Iain would likely be the best.
If it was about physical skills or shooting, Iain would look a total loser and quit and go home..
To showcase our characters strengths and weaknesses and allow them to learn about each other, I feel that there has to be several classes.
Sorry to disagree, just my thoughts.

@Everybody
Especially @Sarah Vez , what if you and me edit our characters bio's to say that they passed the training and assessment phase? With @Mr.BossMan or @Loco 's permission, of course.

Then we are all full Rangers.
Then nobody is limited.
We can all go out and do missions, and just treat the training/assessment thread as a flashback thread, telling the story of our experience during that time..
That way, it can go on for a while (if anybody enjoys doing it of course) and we are still free to do missions.

Thoughts?
@Darasuum @DroidDude123 @Cameron Foster

 

[Loco]

Honestly, I haven't had a chance to read any of the bios thoroughly, so I don't know your characters strengths and weaknesses off the top of my head. Buuuut, Rangers need to be well rounded because of the high risk environment they work in. If you excel at one thing, that's great, but we spend a lot of time working along or in pairs, so all Rangers need to have at least a basic level of proficiency in all of the relevant skill sets. Take any modern Federal law enforcement training for example- whatever your initial qualifications (most require a degree or previous experience for example) all officers/agents undergo many months of "basic" training which teaches them ALL of the basic skills they need to succeed. Most are better at some things than others, like normal people, but they all have the same baseline education.

If your characters are Rangers then it should be assumed they've gone through all of this basic level training to at least make sure everyone is on the same page, whatever their background. While many Rangers would be selected because they excel at certain things, all Rangers are still going to have been put through that basic level of training, for one to make sure they can handle the stress and work load, but also to make sure they all have that same basic level.

If you're doing a training RP, then there's no reason everyone has to be equally good or bad at the subject. I would make multiple training threads over time though- especially if you're treating them as "refresher" courses. The longer a thread lasts (like one where you try to cram in too many subjects at once) the more they tend to fizzle out and die, and ultimately end up unfinished.

Hope some of that helps!

 

[Iain 89]

Not really, lol. We sort of had a semi-concrete idea, now I'm totally confused. Not your fault, confusing me is easily done. ;)

Unless somebody else wants to start a thread and just tag me in, I give up with this idea.
Can't get my head around it, and I get the feeling we'll still be here a month from now trying to decide what to do.

@Loco , when you get a moment can you please tell me if I can edit Iain's bio to say that he passed the training?
Also, what other skills he would need to have listed in order to be a full Ranger working in Admin?
Thank you. :)
No rush at all, I'm not going anywhere. ;)

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/index.php?threads/iain-mullen.64853/

 

[Iain 89]

Hope that didn't come across as me throwing a strop or anything, because it wasn't.
I'm 100% fine with doing whatever everyone else wants, I just can't see anything solid forming at this point, in terms of an idea. Also, I'm now thinking that my character may need seriously revising.

I'm looking forward to getting started with some kind of RP'ing though with this Rangers group, I am certain it will be good once it takes off.

If Cameron or someone else wants to start a thread ,at any point, just tag me in. ;)

 

[Sarah Vez]

Honestly, I haven't had a chance to read any of the bios thoroughly, so I don't know your characters strengths and weaknesses off the top of my head. Buuuut, Rangers need to be well rounded because of the high risk environment they work in. If you excel at one thing, that's great, but we spend a lot of time working along or in pairs, so all Rangers need to have at least a basic level of proficiency in all of the relevant skill sets. Take any modern Federal law enforcement training for example- whatever your initial qualifications (most require a degree or previous experience for example) all officers/agents undergo many months of "basic" training which teaches them ALL of the basic skills they need to succeed. Most are better at some things than others, like normal people, but they all have the same baseline education.

If your characters are Rangers then it should be assumed they've gone through all of this basic level training to at least make sure everyone is on the same page, whatever their background. While many Rangers would be selected because they excel at certain things, all Rangers are still going to have been put through that basic level of training, for one to make sure they can handle the stress and work load, but also to make sure they all have that same basic level.

If you're doing a training RP, then there's no reason everyone has to be equally good or bad at the subject. I would make multiple training threads over time though- especially if you're treating them as "refresher" courses. The longer a thread lasts (like one where you try to cram in too many subjects at once) the more they tend to fizzle out and die, and ultimately end up unfinished.

Hope some of that helps!

Not really, lol. We sort of had a semi-concrete idea, now I'm totally confused. Not your fault, confusing me is easily done. ;)

Unless somebody else wants to start a thread and just tag me in, I give up with this idea.
Can't get my head around it, and I get the feeling we'll still be here a month from now trying to decide what to do.

@Loco , when you get a moment can you please tell me if I can edit Iain's bio to say that he passed the training?
Also, what other skills he would need to have listed in order to be a full Ranger working in Admin?
Thank you. :)
No rush at all, I'm not going anywhere. ;)

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/index.php?threads/iain-mullen.64853/

I agree with loco we all need to be well rounded in the areas of being a ranger, but no matter what like reality they will have their main focus and abilities that will naturally be better then the other skills. Like sarah, shes gonna be stronger with tactics and strategy while an expert shot but not good with to much tech or a wiz and for example iain is but not a good fighter like sarah (just an example) so them two would compliment eachother on missions. Both having their own strong point but still maintaining a little aspect of the others strengths

 

[Loco]

@Loco , when you get a moment can you please tell me if I can edit Iain's bio to say that he passed the training?
Also, what other skills he would need to have listed in order to be a full Ranger working in Admin?
Thank you. :)
No rush at all, I'm not going anywhere. ;)

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/index.php?threads/iain-mullen.64853/

I'm not sure I know what you're asking. There's really no "list" required at all.

As far as being a "Full Ranger" in the admin section (which I may rename at some point, because it doesn't sound very exciting), those are two different things. The Admin section provides all the tech specialists and other personnel with very narrow or specific skill sets who support Ranger investigations or prosecutions. The Rangers themselves are the investigators. In FBI terms (the most apt comparison I think) Rangers would be the Special Agents and Admin personnel would be the various Specialists and Intelligence Analysts.

 

[Sarah Vez]

I'm not sure I know what you're asking. There's really no "list" required at all.

As far as being a "Full Ranger" in the admin section (which I may rename at some point, because it doesn't sound very exciting), those are two different things. The Admin section provides all the tech specialists and other personnel with very narrow or specific skill sets who support Ranger investigations or prosecutions. The Rangers themselves are the investigators. In FBI terms (the most apt comparison I think) Rangers would be the Special Agents and Admin personnel would be the various Specialists and Intelligence Analysts.

Ya in my head i see the Sector Rangers as a mix of the CIA/FBI/SWAT. With a dash of military/paramilitary background all combined.

 

[Iain 89]

I'm not sure I know what you're asking. There's really no "list" required at all.

As far as being a "Full Ranger" in the admin section (which I may rename at some point, because it doesn't sound very exciting), those are two different things. The Admin section provides all the tech specialists and other personnel with very narrow or specific skill sets who support Ranger investigations or prosecutions. The Rangers themselves are the investigators. In FBI terms (the most apt comparison I think) Rangers would be the Special Agents and Admin personnel would be the various Specialists and Intelligence Analysts.

So Iain wouldn't go through the Ranger assessment process in the same way? OK, I get it now.
Can I be allowed to edit his bio to say that he passed the admin training, or do I have to rp it out somehow?
Thank you :)

 

[Iain 89]

Iain was always intended to be strictly just an Admin guy, which I failed to explain, I am sorry..

OK, you guys carry on without me.

 

[Cheshire]

Iain was always intended to be strictly just an Admin guy, which I failed to explain, I am sorry..

OK, you guys carry on without me.

NOOOOOOOOOOO. I SHALL NOT!

 

[Loco]

I'm fine with just saying he graduated whatever training he was put through. Training threads rarely develop into much anyway.

 

[Sarah Vez]

Iain was always intended to be strictly just an Admin guy, which I failed to explain, I am sorry..

OK, you guys carry on without me.

Your character could actually come in handy. Specially in the field. It would add flavor and an interesting story having an admin guy having to go out and do field work with a field agent. Its like 007 taking the guys who gave him his weapons before each mission. Would b very i teresting. Or remember lilo and stitch? When the scientist had that nerdy alien with him trying to get stitch back?

 

[Darasuum]

yeah. i'm going to stick with the one year of experience under my character's belt. In the military even after people go through their initial schooling it is fairly broad and covers all areas of their job in the armed forces. then after they get some experience or they get orders to go to a specific command they are also sent to learn more about what they might need to learn in situations. someone that is going to be in a winter location might learn arctic survival for example while someone that has been in a civilized environement is thrown into a hot zone might go to combat training even if they learned all of these things briefly a while back.

I agree that training posts rarely develop into anything.

 

[Darasuum]

looking for a partner btw. all cute lady character please feel free to apply ;-)

 

[Iain 89]

I should have explained better. Not well at the moment, need to take day off the site tomorrow I think.

When I said carry on without me, I meant the training thread.
That has apparently been dropped now, which is fine with me. I wish people would outright say that they are not keen on an idea early on in a planning process though, it saves time.
Sorry Cameron.

I am going to do the following with my character, if @Loco is OK with this:
I will say that Iain trained as an Admin.
He was so good with computers that he basically became, over the course of a few years, the go-to guy for hacking, research and communications.

That way, whenever you Rangers need ANY info, doors opening, systems hacking, alarms disabling etc.. You just call me IC, tag me OOC, and I make it happen or tell you whatever you need.

Sounds good?

@Loco I have added this to my bio, is it okay? Thanks.
"Having made it absolutely clear that he would not ever fire a blaster, or fight with anyone for that matter, Iain was assigned to the Administration side of the Sector Rangers. He passed his assessment with flying colours.
His computer skills and ability to research and fit pieces of information together, made Iain the go-to guy in the Admin department for anything from hacking criminals computer systems to helping solve crimes by using nothing more than his intelligence, Holonet skills, and any scraps of evidence that the field Rangers could give him."

@Sarah Vez , you will now have to add to your bio that you passed the assessment and became a Ranger, adding the rank obviously. I'm sorry for all the mucking about, we are going to get moving now. ;)

 

[Sarah Vez]

Lol its all good. I aint even mad hahahaha

 

[Loco]

I am going to do the following with my character, if @Loco is OK with this:
I will say that Iain trained as an Admin.
He was so good with computers that he basically became, over the course of a few years, the go-to guy for hacking, research and communications.

That way, whenever you Rangers need ANY info, doors opening, systems hacking, alarms disabling etc.. You just call me IC, tag me OOC, and I make it happen or tell you whatever you need.

Sounds good?

Looks good to me man! That's the sort of character I had in mind for that section. Real specialists that can do something very specific better than a Ranger ever could on his own.

 

[Iain 89]

Thank you. :)
Good to find a place to fit into.

@Cameron Foster Remember there is a thread for you and Sarah to arrange, as well as a new case you could ask to assist with on the case files board.
So we all have something to do, I hope. :)

OK, I really have to go now. Burned out. See you all soon.