Sith

[Malon]

It wasn't balanced in favor of the light before Order 66. That was the point. The dark side was overtaking the light side due to the return of the Sith, and that's why the Chosen One was needed to destroy them once and for all.

Yes, but realistically, one cannot get completely rid of a religion or cult unless all of its practices and teachings somehow vanish. Even religions in RL that most people would consider dead are still followed, even if their followers are low in number.

My personal view is that Anakin destroy an incarnation of the Sith and balanced the Force; yes, but he did not get rid of the beliefs of the Sith, which can lead to the rise of more Sith if those beliefs and teachings fall into the wrong hands, like Lumiya, Jacen Solo, Darth Krayt, etc.

A philosophical outlook on the Force won't just die when two members of one incarnation (Bane's Rule of Two) of that philosophy die. Especially not when there are others out there familiar with Sith philosophy. The Prophets of the Dark Side were followers of Darth Millennial, who was once part of the Rule of Two Sith Order, making them a different incarnation of the Sith.

Not to mention you have the Emperor's Hand. Lumiya was clearly trained as a Sith by Vader, and though her training wasn't complete, she still had quite a knowledge of Sith teachings; enough to legitimately carry on the Sith Order.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Yes, but realistically, one cannot get completely rid of a religion or cult unless all of its practices and teachings somehow vanish. Even religions in RL that most people would consider dead are still followed, even if their followers are low in number.

My personal view is that Anakin destroy an incarnation of the Sith and balanced the Force; yes, but he did not get rid of the beliefs of the Sith, which can lead to the rise of more Sith if those beliefs and teachings fall into the wrong hands, like Lumiya, Jacen Solo, Darth Krayt, etc.

A philosophical outlook on the Force won't just die when two members of one incarnation (Bane's Rule of Two) of that philosophy die. Especially not when there are others out there familiar with Sith philosophy. The Prophets of the Dark Side were followers of Darth Millennial, who was once part of the Rule of Two Sith Order, making them a different incarnation of the Sith.

Not to mention you have the Emperor's Hand. Lumiya was clearly trained as a Sith by Vader, and though her training wasn't complete, she still had quite a knowledge of Sith teachings; enough to legitimately carry on the Sith Order.

I'm not telling you what makes sense, I'm telling you what's film canon, meaning anything not presented in the films or directly stated by George Lucas is irrelevant. If I wanted to make an argument based around what makes sense, I'd just tell you to ignore the entire prequel trilogy and forget it ever happened.

 

[jpchewy01]

If I wanted to make an argument based around what makes sense, I'd just tell you to ignore the entire prequel trilogy and forget it ever happened.

Smartest thing I've heard in a while.

 

[Malon]

I'm not telling you what makes sense, I'm telling you what's film canon, meaning anything not presented in the films or directly stated by George Lucas is irrelevant. If I wanted to make an argument based around what makes sense, I'd just tell you to ignore the entire prequel trilogy and forget it ever happened.

Oh, I know what's film canon. I was more speaking on the EU side of things making sense.

Also, the prequels, save Attack of the Clones, were all pretty good, I thought. Episode I will remain my favorite of the three prequels though.

 

[Vonlin]

As long as there are dark side force users that practice and faithfully follow the sith code there are sith IMO, Palpatine and Vader didn't get trademark rights over the sith, once they were dead no reason more can't rise up later without connection to them

 

[Crosby]

As long as there are dark side force users that practice and faithfully follow the sith code there are sith IMO, Palpatine and Vader didn't get trademark rights over the sith, once they were dead no reason more can't rise up later without connection to them

That makes sense, maybe there not legit... but there still out there doing the exact same thing.

 

[Vonlin]

That makes sense, maybe there not legit... but there still out there doing the exact same thing.

Well I mean who gets to proclaim someone is a legit Sith?

If anything, the ancient pure-blood sith who encountered the rogue jedi and trained as force users are the only ever true sith and everyone since then is an imposter.

 

[Dmitri]

Well I mean who gets to proclaim someone is a legit Sith?

:GL

 

[Vonlin]

:GL

I suppose to a degree thats true Lol. But he wasn't even the one to write the beginning of the Sith.

 

[Horizon]

Well I mean who gets to proclaim someone is a legit Sith?

If anything, the ancient pure-blood sith who encountered the rogue jedi and trained as force users are the only ever true sith and everyone since then is an imposter.

In a sense they would be like you said. But it's rather silly to say..

Jedi - "OHH THEY ARE PRENTENDERS!!! THIS IS SO NOT SRS GAIS.."

Last time I checked the Sith, they've done a pretty good job at doing their thing. In the end they are still Sith.

 

[Vonlin]

In a sense they would be like you said. But it's rather silly to say..

Jedi - "OHH THEY ARE PRENTENDERS!!! THIS IS SO NOT SRS GAIS.."

Last time I checked the Sith, they've done a pretty good job at doing their thing. In the end they are still Sith.

Yea my point is that any dark side force user, that follows the teaching of the sith accurately should be considered a sith.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

The JEDI are the ones calling them impostors. That doesn't mean every other faction or the entire timeline itself has to follow suit. It also doesn't mean that the Jedi aren't going to take the threat seriously. These Sith are in control of the entire Empire and are allied with the Chiss, and they're actively preparing to go to war with the Alliance and the Jedi -- and the Jedi know that, so they're preparing to go to war with the Sith/Empire (just read the High Council board).

Whether the Jedi call these guys Sith or Mary Poppins is irrelevant. They're out there, they're dangerous, and they have to be stopped.

Oh, I know what's film canon. I was more speaking on the EU side of things making sense.

Also, the prequels, save Attack of the Clones, were all pretty good, I thought. Episode I will remain my favorite of the three prequels though.

Episode I was good, the other two are horrifyingly bad.

 

[Dmitri]

Whether the Jedi call these guys Sith or Mary Poppins is irrelevant.

Not Mary Poppins! She has her magical umbrella and sings too much and says too long of words. :CCry2 We're doomed. If Mary Poppins is ruling the Sith, we stand no chance. :CCry1

On a serious note, it all depends on what's being discussed. If you go with George Lucas, the Sith died with Palpatine and Vader. However, if you go by the rest of the EU, then they're still living large, though generally hiding out and massing power during intervals of Sith conquests.

 

[Vilado]

Not Mary Poppins! She has her magical umbrella and sings too much and says too long of words. :CCry2 We're doomed. If Mary Poppins is ruling the Sith, we stand no chance. :CCry1

Darth Poppins, Dark Lady of the Sith!

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